Drive image trouble

ntentz · April 19th, 2003

Hey i dont normally post im more a reader u could say lol.But this damn powerquest drive image is driving me crazy. I try to create an image it tell me it has to reboot and does so then xp jsut starts again it never goes to dos mode and makes anything, i have tried drive image 5.0, and 6.0 same thing what am i missing it worked fine in 2000 and 98 and ghost works on my systmew now i just like di better.thanks for any help
Don

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**Friend of Bill** · April 19th, 2003

I'm not familiar with that program. I know with Norton Ghost you have to create a virtual partition before or during the initial backup. See if something similar is required with your image program.

ntentz · April 19th, 2003

Dont think that is it i made an image with Ghost 10.5 and didnt have to make any additional partitions maybe this is different then your version, i know i can hide them and such but i jsut saved it to another disk. Drive image telle me its goin to reboot into its dos mode and the machine reboots normally nothing being done. I know Di is meant to work in xp just not sure what im missing .ty for the reply

**yoyo** · April 19th, 2003

Is your system heavily tweaked? I think I remember reading something about problems with Drive Image if 8.3 file name creation is disabled. Would have to search for it.

ntentz · April 19th, 2003

Heavily Tweaked lol nah never.... I have the multiplyr dropped to 9 and keep running at 1800mhz but have up the fsb to 200 and advanced some of the mem timings of course but i havnt sawed or drilled on the board itself so i claim no on your ?s sir lol. But honestly i dont think that should affect the imaging I searched goodle but didnt really come up with much been to Powerquest website to no avail.

Chaintech 7njs
Xp 2200 mult x9 FSb 200
1.5g Samsung pc 2700
2 maxtor 80 gb ata 133 7200 rpm
sB live 5.1
lite on 48x cdr
Gainward ti4200
thermaltake 420w psu

**yoyo** · April 19th, 2003

Didn't think of overclocking or such things, more registry tweaks or use of tweaking programs like TweakXP or Xsetup.
Anyway it wouldn't harm if you'd check this registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Control\ FileSystem
Value Name: NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation

is it set to 0 or 1?

April 19th, 2003

I have used DI allot,my system tweaked to the hilt.Never had a prob.You've prob re-installed I presume.I can only think that you've missed a part of the instruc that you give to it or maybe there is a file your missin on your sys(I don't know what) or your DI install is corrupt somehow.

A drastic measure,but if your sys is not really tweaked,you could do a 2nd option repair re-install of xp.(Assuming your missin a file in your os.)

**yoyo** · April 19th, 2003

Jan, it was Bold who had this or at least a similar problem with Drive Image. It was tracked down to disabling short file name creation.

May be something totally different here, though.

ntentz · April 19th, 2003

Just checked thats key yoyo its set to 0 is this right ?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Control\ FileSystem
Value Name: NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation

Also i dont use any of those tweak programs All was done in the BIos Ty the hunt goes on

Chaintech 7njs
Xp 2200 mult x9 FSb 200
1.5g Samsung pc 2700
2 maxtor 80 gb ata 133 7200 rpm
sB live 5.1
lite on 48x cdr
Gainward ti4200
thermaltake 420w psu

**yoyo** · April 19th, 2003

zero is right. So the problem must be something else.
No idea at the moment what it could be, sorry.

April 19th, 2003

Originally posted by yoyo
Jan, it was Bold who had this or at least a similar problem with Drive Image. It was tracked down to disabling short file name creation.

May be something totally different here, though.

Wow,good one yoyo. I don't think that I ever would'a guessed that one.Bold does manage to come up w/some doozies now and then,don't he? :blink:

ntentz · April 19th, 2003

Well i have installed two different versions of DI and still same problem so its not a missing file there so i guess it could be a missing WinXP file but im not willing to reinstall to get it ill use Ghost well im back at the keyboard so back to the search. thanx for all the suggestion though.

Chaintech 7njs
Xp 2200 mult x9 FSb 200
1.5g Samsung pc 2700
2 maxtor 80 gb ata 133 7200 rpm
sB live 5.1
lite on 48x cdr
Gainward ti4200
thermaltake 420w psu

April 19th, 2003

Originally posted by ntentz
Well i have installed two different versions of DI and still same problem so its not a missing file there so i guess it could be a missing WinXP file but im not willing to reinstall to get it ill use Ghost well im back at the keyboard so back to the search. thanx for all the suggestion though.

I was actually suggestin a repair-install not a reinstall.A 2nd option repair-install would not wipe out your progs.

Chaintech 7njs
Xp 2200 mult x9 FSb 200
1.5g Samsung pc 2700
2 maxtor 80 gb ata 133 7200 rpm
sB live 5.1
lite on 48x cdr
Gainward ti4200
thermaltake 420w psu

ntentz · April 19th, 2003

I may try a repair althoughi have tried to use the boot from cd and repair before with no success I alwas ended up reinstalling totally, if i remember that if i leave the file ssys intact and maybe even with a quik format it just overwrites what there. Seems like to much just to make di work lol.Maybe i can learn to like ghost maybe be more efficent lol.

Chaintech 7njs
Xp 2200 mult x9 FSb 200
1.5g Samsung pc 2700
2 maxtor 80 gb ata 133 7200 rpm
sB live 5.1
lite on 48x cdr
Gainward ti4200
thermaltake 420w psu

April 19th, 2003

Just remember if you do the repair that when it is FIRST offered do not take it,pass it and then when it is offered the SECOND time take it.The first one takes you to the recovery console.A pain in the rear if you don't know exactly what you're doin.I don't know how many re-installs I goofed up before I learned this little trick.You must take the SECOND not the FIRST repair that is offered and you will lose nothin.You gotta pay strict attention.It's really worth leanin! Good luck!

ntentz · April 19th, 2003

Well its a good time to try out all the littel things i wanted to install and try out i guess,,,, Ill jsut use it like it is i dont really need DI and ill install things and play till it gets bad then jsut reinstall no biggie ,made a new xp1 slipdisk that i wanna try anyway.thanx for the ideas though.

Chaintech 7njs
Xp 2200 mult x9 FSb 200
1.0g Samsung pc 3000
512m ocz tech pc 3500
2 maxtor 80 gb ata 133 7200 rpm
sB live 5.1
lite on 48x cdr
Gainward ti4200
thermaltake 420w psu

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #1
ntentz FingerBanger Joined: February 2004 Location: East Coast NJ Posts: 60 Reputation: 0 Power: 98	Drive image trouble Hey i dont normally post im more a reader u could say lol.But this damn powerquest drive image is driving me crazy. I try to create an image it tell me it has to reboot and does so then xp jsut starts again it never goes to dos mode and makes anything, i have tried drive image 5.0, and 6.0 same thing what am i missing it worked fine in 2000 and 98 and ghost works on my systmew now i just like di better.thanks for any help Don Chaintech 7njs 1.5g Samsung pc 2700 2 maxtor 80 gb ata 133 7200 rpm sB live 5.1 lite on 48x cdr Gainward ti4200 thermaltake 420w psu

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #11
kitct Unregistered Posts: n/a	Originally posted by yoyo Jan, it was Bold who had this or at least a similar problem with Drive Image. It was tracked down to disabling short file name creation. May be something totally different here, though. Wow,good one yoyo. I don't think that I ever would'a guessed that one.Bold does manage to come up w/some doozies now and then,don't he? :blink:

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #13
kitct Unregistered Posts: n/a	Originally posted by ntentz Well i have installed two different versions of DI and still same problem so its not a missing file there so i guess it could be a missing WinXP file but im not willing to reinstall to get it ill use Ghost well im back at the keyboard so back to the search. thanx for all the suggestion though. I was actually suggestin a repair-install not a reinstall.A 2nd option repair-install would not wipe out your progs. Chaintech 7njs Xp 2200 mult x9 FSb 200 1.5g Samsung pc 2700 2 maxtor 80 gb ata 133 7200 rpm sB live 5.1 lite on 48x cdr Gainward ti4200 thermaltake 420w psu

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April 19th, 2003	Top \| #2
Friend of Bill What, me worry? Joined: April 2002 Posts: 1,572 Reputation: 20 Power: 136	I'm not familiar with that program. I know with Norton Ghost you have to create a virtual partition before or during the initial backup. See if something similar is required with your image program.

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #3
ntentz FingerBanger Joined: February 2004 Location: East Coast NJ Posts: 60 Reputation: 0 Power: 98	Dont think that is it i made an image with Ghost 10.5 and didnt have to make any additional partitions maybe this is different then your version, i know i can hide them and such but i jsut saved it to another disk. Drive image telle me its goin to reboot into its dos mode and the machine reboots normally nothing being done. I know Di is meant to work in xp just not sure what im missing .ty for the reply

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #4
yoyo _________________ Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1,557 Reputation: 160 Power: 133	Is your system heavily tweaked? I think I remember reading something about problems with Drive Image if 8.3 file name creation is disabled. Would have to search for it.

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #5
ntentz FingerBanger Joined: February 2004 Location: East Coast NJ Posts: 60 Reputation: 0 Power: 98	Heavily Tweaked lol nah never.... I have the multiplyr dropped to 9 and keep running at 1800mhz but have up the fsb to 200 and advanced some of the mem timings of course but i havnt sawed or drilled on the board itself so i claim no on your ?s sir lol. But honestly i dont think that should affect the imaging I searched goodle but didnt really come up with much been to Powerquest website to no avail. Chaintech 7njs Xp 2200 mult x9 FSb 200 1.5g Samsung pc 2700 2 maxtor 80 gb ata 133 7200 rpm sB live 5.1 lite on 48x cdr Gainward ti4200 thermaltake 420w psu

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #6
yoyo _________________ Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1,557 Reputation: 160 Power: 133	Didn't think of overclocking or such things, more registry tweaks or use of tweaking programs like TweakXP or Xsetup. Anyway it wouldn't harm if you'd check this registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Control\ FileSystem Value Name: NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation is it set to 0 or 1?

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #7
kitct Unregistered Posts: n/a	I have used DI allot,my system tweaked to the hilt.Never had a prob.You've prob re-installed I presume.I can only think that you've missed a part of the instruc that you give to it or maybe there is a file your missin on your sys(I don't know what) or your DI install is corrupt somehow. A drastic measure,but if your sys is not really tweaked,you could do a 2nd option repair re-install of xp.(Assuming your missin a file in your os.)

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #8
yoyo _________________ Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1,557 Reputation: 160 Power: 133	Jan, it was Bold who had this or at least a similar problem with Drive Image. It was tracked down to disabling short file name creation. May be something totally different here, though.

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #9
ntentz FingerBanger Joined: February 2004 Location: East Coast NJ Posts: 60 Reputation: 0 Power: 98	Just checked thats key yoyo its set to 0 is this right ? HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Control\ FileSystem Value Name: NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation Also i dont use any of those tweak programs All was done in the BIos Ty the hunt goes on Chaintech 7njs Xp 2200 mult x9 FSb 200 1.5g Samsung pc 2700 2 maxtor 80 gb ata 133 7200 rpm sB live 5.1 lite on 48x cdr Gainward ti4200 thermaltake 420w psu

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #10
yoyo _________________ Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1,557 Reputation: 160 Power: 133	zero is right. So the problem must be something else. No idea at the moment what it could be, sorry.

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #12
ntentz FingerBanger Joined: February 2004 Location: East Coast NJ Posts: 60 Reputation: 0 Power: 98	Well i have installed two different versions of DI and still same problem so its not a missing file there so i guess it could be a missing WinXP file but im not willing to reinstall to get it ill use Ghost well im back at the keyboard so back to the search. thanx for all the suggestion though. Chaintech 7njs Xp 2200 mult x9 FSb 200 1.5g Samsung pc 2700 2 maxtor 80 gb ata 133 7200 rpm sB live 5.1 lite on 48x cdr Gainward ti4200 thermaltake 420w psu

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #14
ntentz FingerBanger Joined: February 2004 Location: East Coast NJ Posts: 60 Reputation: 0 Power: 98	I may try a repair althoughi have tried to use the boot from cd and repair before with no success I alwas ended up reinstalling totally, if i remember that if i leave the file ssys intact and maybe even with a quik format it just overwrites what there. Seems like to much just to make di work lol.Maybe i can learn to like ghost maybe be more efficent lol. Chaintech 7njs Xp 2200 mult x9 FSb 200 1.5g Samsung pc 2700 2 maxtor 80 gb ata 133 7200 rpm sB live 5.1 lite on 48x cdr Gainward ti4200 thermaltake 420w psu

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #15
kitct Unregistered Posts: n/a	Just remember if you do the repair that when it is FIRST offered do not take it,pass it and then when it is offered the SECOND time take it.The first one takes you to the recovery console.A pain in the rear if you don't know exactly what you're doin.I don't know how many re-installs I goofed up before I learned this little trick.You must take the SECOND not the FIRST repair that is offered and you will lose nothin.You gotta pay strict attention.It's really worth leanin! Good luck!

April 19th, 2003	Top \| #16
ntentz FingerBanger Joined: February 2004 Location: East Coast NJ Posts: 60 Reputation: 0 Power: 98	Well its a good time to try out all the littel things i wanted to install and try out i guess,,,, Ill jsut use it like it is i dont really need DI and ill install things and play till it gets bad then jsut reinstall no biggie ,made a new xp1 slipdisk that i wanna try anyway.thanx for the ideas though. Chaintech 7njs Xp 2200 mult x9 FSb 200 1.0g Samsung pc 3000 512m ocz tech pc 3500 2 maxtor 80 gb ata 133 7200 rpm sB live 5.1 lite on 48x cdr Gainward ti4200 thermaltake 420w psu