Best firewall??

January 19th, 2003

Hey
Whats the best firewall??

thanks

**perris** · January 19th, 2003

uh oh

well, before anyone get's nutz over this because it's been asked so many times, ...

ha

so what

anyway, if you want the most en depth info, search the site, we've had this discussiion lots of times

if you want mho

sygate for prices, and benign nature, with excellant protection

January 19th, 2003

sygate is gettin some wikkid reviews

i'm thinking of dumping Norton and downloading Sygate Personal Firewall PRO

**Cosmin** · January 19th, 2003

I've used Norton Internet Firewall 2002 but not so satisfied .. whatever .. U can also try Norton Internet Security 2003 , seems to be much improved ..

January 20th, 2003

i'm using Sygate 5.0 Pro right now and have not one complaint about it - Now if it came to the Zone Garbage that would be a diff story

NIS 2003 Pro is nice also (Nav and the firewall) - Take a little bit to configure but it is nice .. To bad I can't say the same for the rest of Norton Products ..

**NetRyder** · January 20th, 2003

I've heard good stuff about Sygate too ... but I use a hardware router myself.

dreamworks · January 20th, 2003

I am using Tiny Personal Firewall 4.0

Works excellent on my Win XP PRO ..

Sinster · January 20th, 2003

Anyone heard of these people?

http://www.agnitum.com/download/outpostfree.html

Or maybe someone here posted it

I dont remember. But I was thinkg about dumping ZA Pro. For this one.

**perris** · January 20th, 2003

that/s a nice firewall too...it also stores addresses for faster serfing

one peculiar thing, it makes you uninstall any other firewall, and then it is almost impossible to get reid of every trace if you try to uninstall it

but it's a nice one

**Geffy** · January 20th, 2003

Originally posted by Sinster
Anyone heard of these people?

http://www.agnitum.com/download/outpostfree.html

Or maybe someone here posted it I dont remember. But I was thinkg about dumping ZA Pro. For this one.

Yep I use that and I am constantly pluggin it as well cause I think it is so great.

So far the only problem I have had with it is that sometimes when you have just installed it it doesnt recognize Norton LiveUpdate properly, but this is fixed by manually adding

Program Files\Symantec\LiveUpdate\LuComServer.exe

for some reason when that prog normally runs it calls itself lucoms~1 thats why Outpost has troubles.

w0lv3rin3 · January 20th, 2003

Their is no such thing as a best firewall, reason for this is that if their was a best firewall, no1 would be able to crack it, hack it, it would be liturlty impossible to hack threw, that would be a best firewall, but unfortuniality, their issisnt, what i can do is recommend one to you, its Nortorn Internet 2001 firewall, reason i dident say 2002 or 2003, is because they have alot of problems with windows XP if u use one with their accounts and stuff and sometimes locks you out, most of the time it will freeze on u can crap, but if you update the 2001 to current updates, it will just do the same effect as if it were 2002 or 2003.

also get Norton Anti-virii 2003, thats good and more better, cause it will try and stop most of the common hacks that hackers use like trojans, it would be also wise to get The Cleaner, it cleans and destroys your infected computers that has a trojan.

**Geffy** · January 20th, 2003

Ah good point but....

The very best firewall you can get is a apair of wire cutters, a can of petrol and a lighter.

Step 1. Cut any internet or external network cables
Step 2. Make a ring of petrol around your computer
Step 3. Light the petrol

Bingo a nice cheap if not wholly environmentally friendly firewall.

Do not try this at home

January 20th, 2003

talking to a couple online buds they were telling about compromising PC's mainly those of home users like us (tho my fear of large black men in jail stops me)

if you use the net your vunerable ...no firewall will stop the ppl with a little skill

**Geffy** · January 21st, 2003

The only thing a firewall is good for, is an acceptable level of protection from trojans, though that will reduce as new ways are found to control trojans.
It also makes it harder and can deter so called "script kiddies" from accessing your PC too easily.
Against a true cracker (one who would have to be really bored to try and access a boring home users machine) a firewall is just a bit of fun.

w0lv3rin3 · January 21st, 2003

lol a trojan, ummm no, sorry, all the firewall does is block outgoing and ingoing traffic and then some (NT-PASS, NETBUIE)

trojan on the other hand is a small server, more like telnet.

see a trojan will lemme put it in lamains terms, burns a hole threw the firewall, allowing axx to the computer, some1 could build a good enough server i would like to say, not trojan, to hide behind a firewall or sometimes act as one also.

see trojan is not really a virii (virus) its more of a server or a irriant to some people.

this is why most anti-virii software dont pick up trojans cause it aint a virii, but some trojans have some misc. code that can also do damage to the pc so becareful, this is why i have a Trojan Cleaner and a Anti-Virii

January 21st, 2003

I have not used a firewall in over three years and nothing has ever happend.

I have also been virus free for three years so I don't really see the point in using security progs :-/

Maybe it's just because I know what to watch out for ....

But really, what good is a firewall ? (software)

I don't really see the point in them.

w0lv3rin3 · January 21st, 2003

Originally posted by Luna64
I have not used a firewall in over three years and nothing has ever happend.

I have also been virus free for three years so I don't really see the point in using security progs :-/

Maybe it's just because I know what to watch out for ....

But really, what good is a firewall ? (software)

I don't really see the point in them.

Well thats probly most likly for you in your case u dont d/l nuthing at all with in those 3 yr's, cause with in those three years and u dont have a virii protection, ud prbly have a vrius right now and u would not even know it or a trojan or some sort of spyware, you could also have gotten if u just suff the web by getting misc. java coding.

but what good is a firewall u ask.

nun, its good for nuthing well one thing, attracting hackers, to find out ways to penetrate your computer, other then that, if ur good and you know what your doin, you have no need for a fire wall cause you would make shure you dont have ney vurnubalities.

get a BSD or *nix, script in your own firewall =)

**NetRyder** · January 21st, 2003

Router for inbound stuff.
Packet sniffer/port monitor for outbound stuff.

January 21st, 2003

Originally posted by w0lv3rin3
Well thats probly most likly for you in your case u dont d/l nuthing at all with in those 3 yr's, cause with in those three years and u dont have a virii protection, ud prbly have a vrius right now and u would not even know it or a trojan or some sort of spyware, you could also have gotten if u just suff the web by getting misc. java coding.

Eh....

I download over 2 gigs of stuff every week.

As for a Virus, I know I dont have one because I scanned my Hard Drives last week.

It's not hard to avoid a virus.

Though I have seen web pages with harmfull scripts in them.

So yea, I could see a use for a firewall.

Still, I have no use for them.

w0lv3rin3 · January 21st, 2003

cool, but u do have a virii protection software so your cool, who needs a firewall

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,258 Reputation: 4333 Power: 291	uh oh well, before anyone get's nutz over this because it's been asked so many times, ... ha so what anyway, if you want the most en depth info, search the site, we've had this discussiion lots of times if you want mho sygate for prices, and benign nature, with excellant protection IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	I've heard good stuff about Sygate too ... but I use a hardware router myself. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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Sinster OSNN Senior Addict Joined: December 2001 Location: *Mssholechusetts Posts: 519 Reputation: 40 Power: 133**	Anyone heard of these people? http://www.agnitum.com/download/outpostfree.html Or maybe someone here posted it I dont remember. But I was thinkg about dumping ZA Pro. For this one. XFX - 590 SLI AMD 6000+ x2 AM2 2 x 1gb DDR2 EVGA 8800GTX X-Fi Fatal1ty Vista Ultimate CDRW LG 8400B / DVDRW Samsung S182M MX1000 / Logitech G15 Samsung 22" WS 225BW

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,258 Reputation: 4333 Power: 291	that/s a nice firewall too...it also stores addresses for faster serfing one peculiar thing, it makes you uninstall any other firewall, and then it is almost impossible to get reid of every trace if you try to uninstall it but it's a nice one IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

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Burpster Unregistered Posts: n/a	sygate is gettin some wikkid reviews i'm thinking of dumping Norton and downloading Sygate Personal Firewall PRO

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Cosmin Graphic Designer Joined: March 2002 Location: Romania Posts: 1,633 Reputation: 110 Power: 141	I've used Norton Internet Firewall 2002 but not so satisfied .. whatever .. U can also try Norton Internet Security 2003 , seems to be much improved ..

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lechtard Unregistered Posts: n/a	i'm using Sygate 5.0 Pro right now and have not one complaint about it - Now if it came to the Zone Garbage that would be a diff story NIS 2003 Pro is nice also (Nav and the firewall) - Take a little bit to configure but it is nice .. To bad I can't say the same for the rest of Norton Products ..

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dreamworks --== babyface ==-- Joined: January 2003 Posts: 355 Reputation: 20 Power: 117	I am using Tiny Personal Firewall 4.0 Works excellent on my Win XP PRO ..

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Geffy OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: March 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,805 Reputation: 1490 Power: 217	Originally posted by Sinster Anyone heard of these people? http://www.agnitum.com/download/outpostfree.html Or maybe someone here posted it I dont remember. But I was thinkg about dumping ZA Pro. For this one. Yep I use that and I am constantly pluggin it as well cause I think it is so great. So far the only problem I have had with it is that sometimes when you have just installed it it doesnt recognize Norton LiveUpdate properly, but this is fixed by manually adding Program Files\Symantec\LiveUpdate\LuComServer.exe for some reason when that prog normally runs it calls itself lucoms~1 thats why Outpost has troubles.  • blog • tumblog • lastfm • flickr • #rubyonrails • @twitter "I could be replaced with a very small shell script"

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w0lv3rin3 The Source Joined: March 2004 Location: Barrie, ON Posts: 465 Reputation: 0 Power: 104	Their is no such thing as a best firewall, reason for this is that if their was a best firewall, no1 would be able to crack it, hack it, it would be liturlty impossible to hack threw, that would be a best firewall, but unfortuniality, their issisnt, what i can do is recommend one to you, its Nortorn Internet 2001 firewall, reason i dident say 2002 or 2003, is because they have alot of problems with windows XP if u use one with their accounts and stuff and sometimes locks you out, most of the time it will freeze on u can crap, but if you update the 2001 to current updates, it will just do the same effect as if it were 2002 or 2003. also get Norton Anti-virii 2003, thats good and more better, cause it will try and stop most of the common hacks that hackers use like trojans, it would be also wise to get The Cleaner, it cleans and destroys your infected computers that has a trojan. If you Don't like my DRIVING! Then Stay OFF the Lawns!

January 20th, 2003	Top \| #12
Geffy OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: March 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,805 Reputation: 1490 Power: 217	Ah good point but.... The very best firewall you can get is a apair of wire cutters, a can of petrol and a lighter. Step 1. Cut any internet or external network cables Step 2. Make a ring of petrol around your computer Step 3. Light the petrol Bingo a nice cheap if not wholly environmentally friendly firewall. Do not try this at home  • blog • tumblog • lastfm • flickr • #rubyonrails • @twitter "I could be replaced with a very small shell script"

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Burpster Unregistered Posts: n/a	talking to a couple online buds they were telling about compromising PC's mainly those of home users like us (tho my fear of large black men in jail stops me) if you use the net your vunerable ...no firewall will stop the ppl with a little skill

January 21st, 2003	Top \| #14
Geffy OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: March 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,805 Reputation: 1490 Power: 217	The only thing a firewall is good for, is an acceptable level of protection from trojans, though that will reduce as new ways are found to control trojans. It also makes it harder and can deter so called "script kiddies" from accessing your PC too easily. Against a true cracker (one who would have to be really bored to try and access a boring home users machine) a firewall is just a bit of fun.  • blog • tumblog • lastfm • flickr • #rubyonrails • @twitter "I could be replaced with a very small shell script"

January 21st, 2003	Top \| #15
w0lv3rin3 The Source Joined: March 2004 Location: Barrie, ON Posts: 465 Reputation: 0 Power: 104	lol a trojan, ummm no, sorry, all the firewall does is block outgoing and ingoing traffic and then some (NT-PASS, NETBUIE) trojan on the other hand is a small server, more like telnet. see a trojan will lemme put it in lamains terms, burns a hole threw the firewall, allowing axx to the computer, some1 could build a good enough server i would like to say, not trojan, to hide behind a firewall or sometimes act as one also. see trojan is not really a virii (virus) its more of a server or a irriant to some people. this is why most anti-virii software dont pick up trojans cause it aint a virii, but some trojans have some misc. code that can also do damage to the pc so becareful, this is why i have a Trojan Cleaner and a Anti-Virii If you Don't like my DRIVING! Then Stay OFF the Lawns!

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January 21st, 2003	Top \| #16
Luna64 Unregistered Posts: n/a	I have not used a firewall in over three years and nothing has ever happend. I have also been virus free for three years so I don't really see the point in using security progs :-/ Maybe it's just because I know what to watch out for .... But really, what good is a firewall ? (software) I don't really see the point in them.

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w0lv3rin3 The Source Joined: March 2004 Location: Barrie, ON Posts: 465 Reputation: 0 Power: 104	Originally posted by Luna64 I have not used a firewall in over three years and nothing has ever happend. I have also been virus free for three years so I don't really see the point in using security progs :-/ Maybe it's just because I know what to watch out for .... But really, what good is a firewall ? (software) I don't really see the point in them. Well thats probly most likly for you in your case u dont d/l nuthing at all with in those 3 yr's, cause with in those three years and u dont have a virii protection, ud prbly have a vrius right now and u would not even know it or a trojan or some sort of spyware, you could also have gotten if u just suff the web by getting misc. java coding. but what good is a firewall u ask. nun, its good for nuthing well one thing, attracting hackers, to find out ways to penetrate your computer, other then that, if ur good and you know what your doin, you have no need for a fire wall cause you would make shure you dont have ney vurnubalities. get a BSD or *nix, script in your own firewall =) If you Don't like my DRIVING! Then Stay OFF the Lawns!

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Router for inbound stuff. Packet sniffer/port monitor for outbound stuff. http://kunal.kundaje.net

January 21st, 2003	Top \| #19
Luna64 Unregistered Posts: n/a	Originally posted by w0lv3rin3 Well thats probly most likly for you in your case u dont d/l nuthing at all with in those 3 yr's, cause with in those three years and u dont have a virii protection, ud prbly have a vrius right now and u would not even know it or a trojan or some sort of spyware, you could also have gotten if u just suff the web by getting misc. java coding. Eh.... I download over 2 gigs of stuff every week. As for a Virus, I know I dont have one because I scanned my Hard Drives last week. It's not hard to avoid a virus. Though I have seen web pages with harmfull scripts in them. So yea, I could see a use for a firewall. Still, I have no use for them.

January 21st, 2003	Top \| #20
w0lv3rin3 The Source Joined: March 2004 Location: Barrie, ON Posts: 465 Reputation: 0 Power: 104	cool, but u do have a virii protection software so your cool, who needs a firewall If you Don't like my DRIVING! Then Stay OFF the Lawns!