HP OEM Installed XP

**damnyank** · January 2nd, 2003

Has anyone ever heard of this? It came from another site and it is totally news to me.

The post read like this:
"I too have an HP computer. I needed to reformat my partitioned C: drive, and bit the bullet, and sent off for the HP Recovery CDs. I formatted C: then attempted to install using the Recovery CDs. They will NOT work with a partitioned drive!!!!! Nothing I tried allowed me to do a reinstall! Calling HP Tech Help just cost me 40 min. worth of waiting on the phone to find out that my drive would be unaccessable unless the recovery program first did a full format, thus wiping out all of my existing partitions.

Years worth of programs, pictures, music, data, etc. were now lost. This will be the last HP computer I will buy. Hellova note to have a 120 gig drive, but not be allowed to partition it just in case you ever need to do a recovery!"

I know myself and henyman have HP's - just curious if anyone else that has an HP has partitioned and run into any problems as stated above! I know henyman has done a "destructive fromat" on his in the past - but don't know if his is partitioned or not! I have not done a reformat, repair or install on mine - so I have no experience with it.

Any help (other than HP SUX ) would be appreciated - I already know that!

**sboulema** · January 2nd, 2003

I know exactly what you mean. My little brother has a HP pc too. And he needed to format his ive 2 and also had only the option to wipe the d: drive with it. The thing he did was that he just installed a normal version of XP

**damnyank** · January 2nd, 2003

sboulema - okay so I am not the only one thinking along those lines - it just seems like life would be sooooo much easier with a "XP cd" in hand.

I guess my next question would be, since I bought this HP to replace a Compaq (does that make me a two-time loser) running Win 98 - which came with a recovery cd (no OS cd). Thus I do not have any Windows cd - thus could I still get away with purchasing an upgrade? It is my understanding you are asked for a previous Windows cd (proof you are upgrading) when using the "Upgrade cd" - which I obviously do not have!

Any info to help me out??

**sboulema** · January 2nd, 2003

im viewing this site now on a compaq, so no you are not a loser. I have a compaq which came also with a 98 recovery cd (now running xp). I dont think it will work to only buy an upgrade, since the upgrade will look for a xp cd and not a recovery cd, so it will not be recognised by the upgarde as a M$ disc. Im afraid you need to buy a full version of xp

**damnyank** · January 2nd, 2003

Somehow I knew you would say I needed the full version of XP - it sure is annoying since I feel HP had to charge me something (in the purchase price) for XP in the first place! I know OEM is cheap for them, but still!

Come to think of it, it's a real "pi$$er" - I got a leagl copy of XP, complete with a legal key, and can't upgrade?? DUH!!

BTW - by two time loser - I guess I misworded what I meant - I was not referring to Compaq. I was referring to having a recovery cd with the Compaq and the "hidden partition" with the HP and still no OS cd - so that makes me a two time loser - I bought 2 different systems and still don't have an OS cd.

**Henyman** · January 2nd, 2003

wOOt i'm here

i have no partitions (cept recovery partition) i last did a complete "destructive recovery" 10 days ago

basically i cant b ased 2 make partitions cus i got no use 4 em. all of the data + progs i have take up 5gb.:happy: i have over 30gd free i'm not gona ever use

**sboulema** · January 2nd, 2003

i think you need to save your money

Xp isnt cheap and you sure dont want to pass in the dark world of warez i hope...

**damnyank** · January 2nd, 2003

henyman - Thanks for the info m8 I knew you just destroyed (

) yours a little while back - verifies it works without the partitions! Thanks!

sboulema - yeah - $$$ - isn't that always a problem? warez?? I don't go there!

**Henyman** · January 2nd, 2003

i did try a non destructive but then i couldn't even boot

partly cus i didn't bother with that file ur suposed 2 download for it 2 work after sp1

**damnyank** · January 2nd, 2003

henyman - I remember us talking about that in the past - the non-destructive and the SP1 recvy .exe!!:happy:

**Henyman** · January 2nd, 2003

indeed

**sboulema** · January 2nd, 2003

OEM just sucks!!

**Henyman** · January 2nd, 2003

it's cheap though

January 3rd, 2003

Hi Guys,

I don`t know that this will help, but I have just bought a new pc.
It was on special offer at a supermarket. Price: £749.

Pentium4. 2.67Ghz. 120Gb HD. 128mb nvidia graphics, etc, etc

The HD is partioned C: E: D: and each drive is also partioned.

C: = boot 55.8Gb/48.8Gb free space. D: = Backup 46.8Gb/45.0Gb free space. E: = 9.02Gb Recovery/5.97Gb free space.

It is also OEM, but the disks come with it, recovery that is.

It is a German manufacturer, Medion. and so far Great.

So partioning HDs should be compulsory on OEMs with large

drives. That`s just my opinion, for what its worth

2z · January 3rd, 2003

I have an HP Pavilion750.uk

I bought on special offer & @ the time it worked out a couple of hundred quid cheaper than building it myself

so with the money I saved I got a copy of XP pro

the preloaded software was dreadful I couldn't wait to FDISK

BTW it took me nearly 6 x months to get round to doing it

January 3rd, 2003

Originally posted by damnyank
Has anyone ever heard of this? It came from another site and it is totally news to me.

The post read like this:
"I too have an HP computer. I needed to reformat my partitioned C: drive, and bit the bullet, and sent off for the HP Recovery CDs. I formatted C: then attempted to install using the Recovery CDs. They will NOT work with a partitioned drive!!!!! Nothing I tried allowed me to do a reinstall! Calling HP Tech Help just cost me 40 min. worth of waiting on the phone to find out that my drive would be unaccessable unless the recovery program first did a full format, thus wiping out all of my existing partitions. Years worth of programs, pictures, music, data, etc. were now lost. This will be the last HP computer I will buy. Hellova note to have a 120 gig drive, but not be allowed to partition it just in case you ever need to do a recovery!"

I know myself and henyman have HP's - just curious if anyone else that has an HP has partitioned and run into any problems as stated above! I know henyman has done a "destructive fromat" on his in the past - but don't know if his is partitioned or not! I have not done a reformat, repair or install on mine - so I have no experience with it.

Any help (other than HP SUX ) would be appreciated - I already know that!

Thats strange I have a hp noteboob ze1110. I have to reformat on it often because it is my "mess around computer" I used pm8 on it and when I use my recover disks it asks me recover C or recover the whole harddrive. I'm lucky?

jw50 · January 3rd, 2003

You can get a full OEM version of XP Pro for around $130, once you have the OEM CD you can purchase additional OEM licences for around $80 or $90. Also if you can qualify for academic versions you can get them for less than $100 too.

**Henyman** · January 3rd, 2003

i got a HP pavilion 7945 (uk) cost £999 no partitions 40Gb drive

**dreamliner77** · January 4th, 2003

just a bit of a thought (and trying to use MS's own devices against them). Since they no longer think that we buy software from them, only the right to use it; if we bought a OEM system (hp, compaq, sony etc) with XP installed, we should be able to call up Microsoft and say, "Hey, i've bought a legal liscense, i need a new copy of the software."

At least I think we should pressure them about this since it only seems logical to me.

Also, I've never tried it, but say you borrowed a friends XP cd, could you install it on your machine and use the old OEM key?

January 4th, 2003

I didn't waste time with the likes of HP and Compaq. Nor Dell or Gateway. My first and only new PC, a Pentium III 500Mhz that I bought like 4 1/2 years ago, I built myself. Building a PC is much less expensive and you get to choose what you get down to the motherboard, and you don't get the OEM crap. Buying from Dell at that time would have cost like $4000. Canadian money, too. But building it it cost like $2000. Windows 98 obviously.

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damnyank I WILL NOT FORGET 911 Joined: March 2002 Location: Petal, Mississippi Posts: 2,354 Reputation: 390 Power: 147	HP OEM Installed XP Has anyone ever heard of this? It came from another site and it is totally news to me. The post read like this: "I too have an HP computer. I needed to reformat my partitioned C: drive, and bit the bullet, and sent off for the HP Recovery CDs. I formatted C: then attempted to install using the Recovery CDs. They will NOT work with a partitioned drive!!!!! Nothing I tried allowed me to do a reinstall! Calling HP Tech Help just cost me 40 min. worth of waiting on the phone to find out that my drive would be unaccessable unless the recovery program first did a full format, thus wiping out all of my existing partitions. Years worth of programs, pictures, music, data, etc. were now lost. This will be the last HP computer I will buy. Hellova note to have a 120 gig drive, but not be allowed to partition it just in case you ever need to do a recovery!" I know myself and henyman have HP's - just curious if anyone else that has an HP has partitioned and run into any problems as stated above! I know henyman has done a "destructive fromat" on his in the past - but don't know if his is partitioned or not! I have not done a reformat, repair or install on mine - so I have no experience with it. Any help (other than HP SUX ) would be appreciated - I already know that!

January 2nd, 2003	Top \| #6
Henyman Secret Goat Fetish Joined: June 2002 Location: Dorset, England Posts: More Than You Posts: 9,601 Reputation: 3548 Power: 249	wOOt i'm here i have no partitions (cept recovery partition) i last did a complete "destructive recovery" 10 days ago basically i cant b ased 2 make partitions cus i got no use 4 em. all of the data + progs i have take up 5gb.:happy: i have over 30gd free i'm not gona ever use http://Henyman.com

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Henyman Secret Goat Fetish Joined: June 2002 Location: Dorset, England Posts: More Than You Posts: 9,601 Reputation: 3548 Power: 249	i did try a non destructive but then i couldn't even boot partly cus i didn't bother with that file ur suposed 2 download for it 2 work after sp1 http://Henyman.com

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Henyman Secret Goat Fetish Joined: June 2002 Location: Dorset, England Posts: More Than You Posts: 9,601 Reputation: 3548 Power: 249	indeed http://Henyman.com

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Henyman Secret Goat Fetish Joined: June 2002 Location: Dorset, England Posts: More Than You Posts: 9,601 Reputation: 3548 Power: 249	it's cheap though http://Henyman.com

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sboulema OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2002 Location: Amstelveen, The Netherlands Posts: 2,846 Reputation: 120 Power: 147	I know exactly what you mean. My little brother has a HP pc too. And he needed to format his ive 2 and also had only the option to wipe the d: drive with it. The thing he did was that he just installed a normal version of XP

January 2nd, 2003	Top \| #3
damnyank I WILL NOT FORGET 911 Joined: March 2002 Location: Petal, Mississippi Posts: 2,354 Reputation: 390 Power: 147	sboulema - okay so I am not the only one thinking along those lines - it just seems like life would be sooooo much easier with a "XP cd" in hand. I guess my next question would be, since I bought this HP to replace a Compaq (does that make me a two-time loser) running Win 98 - which came with a recovery cd (no OS cd). Thus I do not have any Windows cd - thus could I still get away with purchasing an upgrade? It is my understanding you are asked for a previous Windows cd (proof you are upgrading) when using the "Upgrade cd" - which I obviously do not have! Any info to help me out??

January 2nd, 2003	Top \| #4
sboulema OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2002 Location: Amstelveen, The Netherlands Posts: 2,846 Reputation: 120 Power: 147	im viewing this site now on a compaq, so no you are not a loser. I have a compaq which came also with a 98 recovery cd (now running xp). I dont think it will work to only buy an upgrade, since the upgrade will look for a xp cd and not a recovery cd, so it will not be recognised by the upgarde as a M$ disc. Im afraid you need to buy a full version of xp

January 2nd, 2003	Top \| #5
damnyank I WILL NOT FORGET 911 Joined: March 2002 Location: Petal, Mississippi Posts: 2,354 Reputation: 390 Power: 147	Somehow I knew you would say I needed the full version of XP - it sure is annoying since I feel HP had to charge me something (in the purchase price) for XP in the first place! I know OEM is cheap for them, but still! Come to think of it, it's a real "pi$$er" - I got a leagl copy of XP, complete with a legal key, and can't upgrade?? DUH!! BTW - by two time loser - I guess I misworded what I meant - I was not referring to Compaq. I was referring to having a recovery cd with the Compaq and the "hidden partition" with the HP and still no OS cd - so that makes me a two time loser - I bought 2 different systems and still don't have an OS cd.

January 2nd, 2003	Top \| #7
sboulema OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2002 Location: Amstelveen, The Netherlands Posts: 2,846 Reputation: 120 Power: 147	i think you need to save your money Xp isnt cheap and you sure dont want to pass in the dark world of warez i hope...

January 2nd, 2003	Top \| #8
damnyank I WILL NOT FORGET 911 Joined: March 2002 Location: Petal, Mississippi Posts: 2,354 Reputation: 390 Power: 147	henyman - Thanks for the info m8 I knew you just destroyed ( ) yours a little while back - verifies it works without the partitions! Thanks! sboulema - yeah - $$$ - isn't that always a problem? warez?? I don't go there!

January 2nd, 2003	Top \| #10
damnyank I WILL NOT FORGET 911 Joined: March 2002 Location: Petal, Mississippi Posts: 2,354 Reputation: 390 Power: 147	henyman - I remember us talking about that in the past - the non-destructive and the SP1 recvy .exe!!:happy:

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sboulema OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2002 Location: Amstelveen, The Netherlands Posts: 2,846 Reputation: 120 Power: 147	OEM just sucks!!

January 3rd, 2003	Top \| #14
Kirrie2001 Unregistered Posts: n/a	Hi Guys, I don`t know that this will help, but I have just bought a new pc. It was on special offer at a supermarket. Price: £749. Pentium4. 2.67Ghz. 120Gb HD. 128mb nvidia graphics, etc, etc The HD is partioned C: E: D: and each drive is also partioned. C: = boot 55.8Gb/48.8Gb free space. D: = Backup 46.8Gb/45.0Gb free space. E: = 9.02Gb Recovery/5.97Gb free space. It is also OEM, but the disks come with it, recovery that is. It is a German manufacturer, Medion. and so far Great. So partioning HDs should be compulsory on OEMs with large drives. That`s just my opinion, for what its worth

January 3rd, 2003	Top \| #15
2z OSNN Gamer Joined: May 2002 Location: England Posts: 2,439 Reputation: 20 Power: 143	I have an HP Pavilion750.uk I bought on special offer & @ the time it worked out a couple of hundred quid cheaper than building it myself so with the money I saved I got a copy of XP pro the preloaded software was dreadful I couldn't wait to FDISK BTW it took me nearly 6 x months to get round to doing it

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January 3rd, 2003	Top \| #16
zoey Unregistered Posts: n/a	Re: HP OEM Installed XP Originally posted by damnyank Has anyone ever heard of this? It came from another site and it is totally news to me. The post read like this: "I too have an HP computer. I needed to reformat my partitioned C: drive, and bit the bullet, and sent off for the HP Recovery CDs. I formatted C: then attempted to install using the Recovery CDs. They will NOT work with a partitioned drive!!!!! Nothing I tried allowed me to do a reinstall! Calling HP Tech Help just cost me 40 min. worth of waiting on the phone to find out that my drive would be unaccessable unless the recovery program first did a full format, thus wiping out all of my existing partitions. Years worth of programs, pictures, music, data, etc. were now lost. This will be the last HP computer I will buy. Hellova note to have a 120 gig drive, but not be allowed to partition it just in case you ever need to do a recovery!" I know myself and henyman have HP's - just curious if anyone else that has an HP has partitioned and run into any problems as stated above! I know henyman has done a "destructive fromat" on his in the past - but don't know if his is partitioned or not! I have not done a reformat, repair or install on mine - so I have no experience with it. Any help (other than HP SUX ) would be appreciated - I already know that! Thats strange I have a hp noteboob ze1110. I have to reformat on it often because it is my "mess around computer" I used pm8 on it and when I use my recover disks it asks me recover C or recover the whole harddrive. I'm lucky?

January 3rd, 2003	Top \| #17
jw50 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: December 2001 Posts: 354 Reputation: 10 Power: 128	You can get a full OEM version of XP Pro for around $130, once you have the OEM CD you can purchase additional OEM licences for around $80 or $90. Also if you can qualify for academic versions you can get them for less than $100 too.

January 3rd, 2003	Top \| #18
Henyman Secret Goat Fetish Joined: June 2002 Location: Dorset, England Posts: More Than You Posts: 9,601 Reputation: 3548 Power: 249	i got a HP pavilion 7945 (uk) cost £999 no partitions 40Gb drive http://Henyman.com

January 4th, 2003	Top \| #19
dreamliner77 The Analog Kid Joined: March 2002 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 4,638 Reputation: 1111 Power: 178	just a bit of a thought (and trying to use MS's own devices against them). Since they no longer think that we buy software from them, only the right to use it; if we bought a OEM system (hp, compaq, sony etc) with XP installed, we should be able to call up Microsoft and say, "Hey, i've bought a legal liscense, i need a new copy of the software." At least I think we should pressure them about this since it only seems logical to me. Also, I've never tried it, but say you borrowed a friends XP cd, could you install it on your machine and use the old OEM key? "You can fight without ever winning, but never win without a fight." -Neil Peart of RUSH

January 4th, 2003	Top \| #20
ModestCargo Unregistered Posts: n/a	I didn't waste time with the likes of HP and Compaq. Nor Dell or Gateway. My first and only new PC, a Pentium III 500Mhz that I bought like 4 1/2 years ago, I built myself. Building a PC is much less expensive and you get to choose what you get down to the motherboard, and you don't get the OEM crap. Buying from Dell at that time would have cost like $4000. Canadian money, too. But building it it cost like $2000. Windows 98 obviously.