HP OEM Installed XP - Page 2

**sboulema** · January 4th, 2003

Also, I've never tried it, but say you borrowed a friends XP cd, could you install it on your machine and use the old OEM key?

you cant use a oem version on a normal version of windows XP it will no accept that as a legit key. Tried it already.

**damnyank** · January 4th, 2003

This may be pushing the envelope as far as warez goes - so if it is considered warez - just delete it.

I have XP Home OEM installed on my HP - but the "backup utility" is not automatically installed (as it is in XP Pro). However the backup utility is on the XP Home cd under NTBACKUP.MSI and anyone who has the "XP cd" can install it.

Now - I f I borrowed an XP Home cd, could I install it on my system - since the instructions state: " Simply install the XP CD, and run NTBACKUP.MSI program from the folder D:\Valueadd\mst\ntbackup. This will launch the Windows Backup Utility Installation Wizard, which installs the utility automatically."

It does not mention needing a key (which I have but is an OEM version) or anything - plus I feel that I should be able to at least add the backup utility to my system!

January 6th, 2003

The best way to do it is to get a Clean copy of XP - I had Windows ME OEM in my pc (It's an HP by the way) .. It was constantly crashing and not doing anything right, I believe I got 10 BSOD's in a matter of Five minutes - So I dumped it and put a clean Copy of XP in and haven't had a prob yet ... I even reinstalled the format CD from HP with no probs.

I just wiped the disk, used a windows 98 boot floppy to make a partition of 20 gig from the 80 gig HD, then put xp in and let it format it to ntfs. When it was installed I used XP to make a backup partition with the unallocated space. Worked prefect and hasn't been problematic yet .. I will state that I reformat at-least once every six months though whether it needs it or not ..

I don't like OEM OS's mainly because the Computer companies don't care what they put on the OS, even if it is incompatible, it's just based on how much the software companies pay them ..

This is the reason I am building my next PC as well ..

March 23rd, 2003

When you build a PC you can get those cool cases with glass side-panels too.

tibboh · March 23rd, 2003

Just to stick my pennie's woth in about XP. My new copy of XP Home (upgrade only) arived on Friday. As explanied by a few guys, all I had to do was install XP CD, (on my new HD) which would then ask for verification that i had a previous copy of Windows, and I would get a clean, XP only installation.

Probem was when promted to insert floppie from previous Win, I stuck myWin '98 restore disk in - which it would NOT accept.

However, I had a Win '95 disk from 1996 and stuck that in, and lo & behold, full installation.

As someone quite rightly said to me when enquiring about buying full copy or upgrade, there is NO reason to waste money on full copy if you can lay your hands on an old Win '95/'98 start up disk.

Hope that helps clarify matters

March 25th, 2003

Well, I'm thinking that if you have the OEM XP key, then just borrow a friend's XP cd and then use your legal key when asked. Seems like it would work. You might have to make the necessary reg changes re: OEM/Retail/Corp version.

**Hipster Doofus** · March 25th, 2003

Originally posted by tibboh
Just to stick my pennie's woth in about XP. My new copy of XP Home (upgrade only) arived on Friday. As explanied by a few guys, all I had to do was install XP CD, (on my new HD) which would then ask for verification that i had a previous copy of Windows, and I would get a clean, XP only installation.

Probem was when promted to insert floppie from previous Win, I stuck myWin '98 restore disk in - which it would NOT accept.

However, I had a Win '95 disk from 1996 and stuck that in, and lo & behold, full installation.

As someone quite rightly said to me when enquiring about buying full copy or upgrade, there is NO reason to waste money on full copy if you can lay your hands on an old Win '95/'98 start up disk.

Hope that helps clarify matters

Let me get this straight. You were doing an upgrade to xp & at some point it asked for a floppy? Not the winn9x cd? And it worked using a boot floopy? Was it a clean installation? No operating system on the drive?

If that's how it went then that is amazing. Good ol MS strikes again.

iowaboy · March 26th, 2003

I have installed xp on many hp and compaq computers using a win 95 or win 98 cd's. All were clean installs with the upgrade disk. Also, the reason for the xp installs was cause win me was crashing the computers.

March 26th, 2003

Originally posted by Hipster Doofus
Let me get this straight. You were doing an upgrade to xp & at some point it asked for a floppy? Not the winn9x cd? And it worked using a boot floopy? Was it a clean installation? No operating system on the drive?

If that's how it went then that is amazing. Good ol MS strikes again.

You hace to remeber that when Windows 95 came out it was released on both floppy and CD-rom. I had a copy of it on floppy I think it was something like 13 disks and installing it really sucked.

March 26th, 2003

Hi All,
I have a Pavilion7965. The performance since SP1 I can't tell you. The number of conflicts I've had. I've uninstalled and reinstalled a number of times. I finally got it up and running for about three months and then it started conflicting with the sound.
There was a sound delay of about three seconds which drove me up the wall. I thought it was just me but it happened three times.
Its working ok now but not with SP1.I put all the patches back in and it works ok. I would never touch another HP.
Best Wishes to all,

March 26th, 2003

me and damnyank had a little go at trying to extract windows and burn to cd but we didnt have much luck... all that you can do is get rid of it and install xp from retail disk... it solves so many problems and removes barriers which would have existed with a pre installed copy. and dont mention how fast and reliable it runs

March 26th, 2003

hey george pomone that uses via onboard sound... go to windows update and under drivers should have an update. that will solve your prob with sp1

March 23rd, 2003	Top \| #25
tibboh Arte et Marte Joined: December 2002 Location: Preston England Posts: 235 Reputation: 40 Power: 117	Just to stick my pennie's woth in about XP. My new copy of XP Home (upgrade only) arived on Friday. As explanied by a few guys, all I had to do was install XP CD, (on my new HD) which would then ask for verification that i had a previous copy of Windows, and I would get a clean, XP only installation. Probem was when promted to insert floppie from previous Win, I stuck myWin '98 restore disk in - which it would NOT accept. However, I had a Win '95 disk from 1996 and stuck that in, and lo & behold, full installation. As someone quite rightly said to me when enquiring about buying full copy or upgrade, there is NO reason to waste money on full copy if you can lay your hands on an old Win '95/'98 start up disk. Hope that helps clarify matters Abit BE7 - 533 mhz Intel P4 - 2.4 ghz Crucial DIMM - 1 GB Crucial Radeon 8500 LE Graphics Western Digital 40 & 80 Gb (7200 rpm) TDK CD Burner Philips Dual Layer DVD Burner XP Home Edition Philips 17" TFT I'm gonna learn this guitar, even if it friggin kills me,,,

March 25th, 2003	Top \| #27
Hipster Doofus Good grief Charlie Brown Joined: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 5,920 Reputation: 560 Power: 187	Originally posted by tibboh Just to stick my pennie's woth in about XP. My new copy of XP Home (upgrade only) arived on Friday. As explanied by a few guys, all I had to do was install XP CD, (on my new HD) which would then ask for verification that i had a previous copy of Windows, and I would get a clean, XP only installation. Probem was when promted to insert floppie from previous Win, I stuck myWin '98 restore disk in - which it would NOT accept. However, I had a Win '95 disk from 1996 and stuck that in, and lo & behold, full installation. As someone quite rightly said to me when enquiring about buying full copy or upgrade, there is NO reason to waste money on full copy if you can lay your hands on an old Win '95/'98 start up disk. Hope that helps clarify matters Let me get this straight. You were doing an upgrade to xp & at some point it asked for a floppy? Not the winn9x cd? And it worked using a boot floopy? Was it a clean installation? No operating system on the drive? If that's how it went then that is amazing. Good ol MS strikes again. Pentium 4 2.6ghz 400mhz @ 3.07ghz 472mhz / Gigabyte GA-8IHXP v2.1 / RAMBUS PC 800 768mb / Sapphire Radeon 9600XT 256mb / 2 x Maxtor 80gb ATA133 DiamondMax, RAID0 :: 1 x Western Digital 7200 40gb / Liteon DVD-RW Dual Layer SOHW-1633S @ 1653S / Liteon 52x24x52 CD-RW LTR-52246S / Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu Fan / Antec TruePower 480w / RD3XP Gladiator Rounded Cables

March 26th, 2003	Top \| #29
rettahc Unregistered Posts: n/a	Originally posted by Hipster Doofus Let me get this straight. You were doing an upgrade to xp & at some point it asked for a floppy? Not the winn9x cd? And it worked using a boot floopy? Was it a clean installation? No operating system on the drive? If that's how it went then that is amazing. Good ol MS strikes again. You hace to remeber that when Windows 95 came out it was released on both floppy and CD-rom. I had a copy of it on floppy I think it was something like 13 disks and installing it really sucked.

March 26th, 2003	Top \| #30
georgepomone Unregistered Posts: n/a	Pavilion7965 Hi All, I have a Pavilion7965. The performance since SP1 I can't tell you. The number of conflicts I've had. I've uninstalled and reinstalled a number of times. I finally got it up and running for about three months and then it started conflicting with the sound. There was a sound delay of about three seconds which drove me up the wall. I thought it was just me but it happened three times. Its working ok now but not with SP1.I put all the patches back in and it works ok. I would never touch another HP. Best Wishes to all,

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January 4th, 2003	Top \| #21
sboulema OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2002 Location: Amstelveen, The Netherlands Posts: 2,846 Reputation: 120 Power: 151	Also, I've never tried it, but say you borrowed a friends XP cd, could you install it on your machine and use the old OEM key? you cant use a oem version on a normal version of windows XP it will no accept that as a legit key. Tried it already.

January 4th, 2003	Top \| #22
damnyank I WILL NOT FORGET 911 Joined: March 2002 Location: Petal, Mississippi Posts: 2,354 Reputation: 390 Power: 151	This may be pushing the envelope as far as warez goes - so if it is considered warez - just delete it. I have XP Home OEM installed on my HP - but the "backup utility" is not automatically installed (as it is in XP Pro). However the backup utility is on the XP Home cd under NTBACKUP.MSI and anyone who has the "XP cd" can install it. Now - I f I borrowed an XP Home cd, could I install it on my system - since the instructions state: " Simply install the XP CD, and run NTBACKUP.MSI program from the folder D:\Valueadd\mst\ntbackup. This will launch the Windows Backup Utility Installation Wizard, which installs the utility automatically." It does not mention needing a key (which I have but is an OEM version) or anything - plus I feel that I should be able to at least add the backup utility to my system!

January 6th, 2003	Top \| #23
lechtard Unregistered Posts: n/a	The best way to do it is to get a Clean copy of XP - I had Windows ME OEM in my pc (It's an HP by the way) .. It was constantly crashing and not doing anything right, I believe I got 10 BSOD's in a matter of Five minutes - So I dumped it and put a clean Copy of XP in and haven't had a prob yet ... I even reinstalled the format CD from HP with no probs. I just wiped the disk, used a windows 98 boot floppy to make a partition of 20 gig from the 80 gig HD, then put xp in and let it format it to ntfs. When it was installed I used XP to make a backup partition with the unallocated space. Worked prefect and hasn't been problematic yet .. I will state that I reformat at-least once every six months though whether it needs it or not .. I don't like OEM OS's mainly because the Computer companies don't care what they put on the OS, even if it is incompatible, it's just based on how much the software companies pay them .. This is the reason I am building my next PC as well ..

March 23rd, 2003	Top \| #24
ModestCargo Unregistered Posts: n/a	When you build a PC you can get those cool cases with glass side-panels too.

March 25th, 2003	Top \| #26
Doxtr111 Unregistered Posts: n/a	Well, I'm thinking that if you have the OEM XP key, then just borrow a friend's XP cd and then use your legal key when asked. Seems like it would work. You might have to make the necessary reg changes re: OEM/Retail/Corp version.

March 26th, 2003	Top \| #28
iowaboy old person Joined: March 2002 Location: Iowa, USA Posts: 118 Reputation: 10 Power: 125	I have installed xp on many hp and compaq computers using a win 95 or win 98 cd's. All were clean installs with the upgrade disk. Also, the reason for the xp installs was cause win me was crashing the computers.

March 26th, 2003	Top \| #31
XP Abuser Unregistered Posts: n/a	me and damnyank had a little go at trying to extract windows and burn to cd but we didnt have much luck... all that you can do is get rid of it and install xp from retail disk... it solves so many problems and removes barriers which would have existed with a pre installed copy. and dont mention how fast and reliable it runs

March 26th, 2003	Top \| #32
XP Abuser Unregistered Posts: n/a	hey george pomone that uses via onboard sound... go to windows update and under drivers should have an update. that will solve your prob with sp1