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**Johnny** · February 11th, 2010

That is quite possible. I am just going by what it did with from it not being enabled and then it being enabled. To tell if it is enable, take a look at the peers tab while downloading or uploading something. If you see UTP in the ip section, then it is enabled.

**American Zombie** · February 11th, 2010

Originally Posted by Johnny

That is quite possible. I am just going by what it did with from it not being enabled and then it being enabled. To tell if it is enable, take a look at the peers tab while downloading or uploading something. If you see UTP in the ip section, then it is enabled.

I did not know this so I will check it out.

Thanks

**epk** · March 1st, 2010

just checkin back guys.. i gave utp a million chances, but its always slower! i dont know wth is going on, but for now i'm sticking to good ol' tcp

Android412 · March 1st, 2010

some private trackers are banning it...for now.

**epk** · March 1st, 2010

really? i dont use private trackers anymore...

**Johnny** · March 2nd, 2010

I haven't used a private tracker in a while either ..

**Xie** · March 9th, 2010

The reason for it's banning (well part of it really) ... other then it throttling users, is that it favors uTP over TCP and will try and fill every slot with them first. That means that it's only looking for uTorrent 2.0 clients first, and possible only for them.

**LordOfLA** · March 11th, 2010

UTP and utorrents uTP are two totally different things - please ensure you're talking about the right thing

UTP is the "fire and forget" protocol where as TCP is concerned about there actually being a stable connection.

It was a very poor decision imo to name a traffic throttleing technology after the UTP protocol.

**Johnny** · March 11th, 2010

I am maybe they UTP in utorrent stands for uTorrent Protocol?

**American Zombie** · March 12th, 2010

http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0029....sport-protocol

**Xie** · March 13th, 2010

I had it correct.

uTP is a transport protocol layered on top of UDP.

The current version of uTorrent 2.0 favors, and in some cases ignores, non-2.0 clients. This means that for all the people in a swarm that aren't running 2.0 they might not be able to download/upload like they could in the pre-2.0 days.

**American Zombie** · March 14th, 2010

Originally Posted by Xie

I had it correct.

The current version of uTorrent 2.0 favors, and in some cases ignores, non-2.0 clients. This means that for all the people in a swarm that aren't running 2.0 they might not be able to download/upload like they could in the pre-2.0 days.

I don't think this is true.

I have seen peers uploading/downloading from me with good speeds while using clients other than µTorrent or a pre 2.0 version of µTorrent.

I tested a few torrents using 1.8 and 2.0 versions of µTorrent with no difference in speeds at all as the torrent completed in the same amount of time.

**Xie** · March 16th, 2010

Originally Posted by American Zombie

I don't think this is true.

I have seen peers uploading/downloading from me with good speeds while using clients other than µTorrent or a pre 2.0 version of µTorrent.

I tested a few torrents using 1.8 and 2.0 versions of µTorrent with no difference in speeds at all as the torrent completed in the same amount of time.

It is true (not 100% of the time) but that is why it's banned at several private trackers right now and why it's been kinda fixed in 2.0.1 build.

If you have a smaller swarm though you'll probably connect to less non-uTorrent folks with 2.0 then you would before. It also really depends on how people configure the bt.transp_disposition settings.

**Johnny** · March 18th, 2010

I have noticed through out the years that I been using utorrent, that it is a little slower than some of the other ones. I am not sure why this is, but is something I got used to .. I would like to try and figure it out though.

Something else, When you have it sitting there in idle mode and nothing downloading or uploading. You look at the traffic info; you will see that it is still uploading and downloading. Any idea why it does that? I know it's not the auto update feature, as I turned it off and it still did the same thing. I found that to be something that causes a lag on my connection, which in turn will force me to close it out to get the speed back up.

**Xie** · March 23rd, 2010

Originally Posted by Johnny

I have noticed through out the years that I been using utorrent, that it is a little slower than some of the other ones. I am not sure why this is, but is something I got used to .. I would like to try and figure it out though.

Something else, When you have it sitting there in idle mode and nothing downloading or uploading. You look at the traffic info; you will see that it is still uploading and downloading. Any idea why it does that? I know it's not the auto update feature, as I turned it off and it still did the same thing. I found that to be something that causes a lag on my connection, which in turn will force me to close it out to get the speed back up.

I think the most "aggressive" client right now is Deluge (fastest). As far as that tiny bit of traffic, it's just uT checking with the tracker and checking with peers most likely. It's nothing to worry about and the amount of traffic is very small.

**LordOfLA** · March 23rd, 2010

It's occurred to me that I actually meant UDP in my previous post

**Johnny** · March 23rd, 2010

Originally Posted by LordOfLA

It's occurred to me that I actually meant UDP in my previous post

lol

**Johnny** · March 23rd, 2010

Originally Posted by Xie

I think the most "aggressive" client right now is Deluge (fastest). As far as that tiny bit of traffic, it's just uT checking with the tracker and checking with peers most likely. It's nothing to worry about and the amount of traffic is very small.

That could be what it is. It is hard to say. I usually don't turn it on unless I am using it now ..

February 11th, 2010	Top \| #21
Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,869 Reputation: 2369 Power: 173	Re: µTorrent 2.0 That is quite possible. I am just going by what it did with from it not being enabled and then it being enabled. To tell if it is enable, take a look at the peers tab while downloading or uploading something. If you see UTP in the ip section, then it is enabled. Paul Reed Smith.

February 11th, 2010	Top \| #22
American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,864 Reputation: 2689 Power: 151	Re: µTorrent 2.0 Originally Posted by Johnny That is quite possible. I am just going by what it did with from it not being enabled and then it being enabled. To tell if it is enable, take a look at the peers tab while downloading or uploading something. If you see UTP in the ip section, then it is enabled. I did not know this so I will check it out. Thanks

March 1st, 2010	Top \| #23
epk OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: October 2006 Location: Buenos Aires Posts: 1,242 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 951 Power: 90	Re: µTorrent 2.0 just checkin back guys.. i gave utp a million chances, but its always slower! i dont know wth is going on, but for now i'm sticking to good ol' tcp My Battlefield 2 Stats Page My Youtube account, I have some cool game videos there << check it!! (:

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Android412 OSNN Addict Joined: January 2004 Location: Hamilton, ON Posts: 198 Reputation: 40 Power: 104	Re: µTorrent 2.0 some private trackers are banning it...for now.

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epk OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: October 2006 Location: Buenos Aires Posts: 1,242 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 951 Power: 90	Re: µTorrent 2.0 really? i dont use private trackers anymore... My Battlefield 2 Stats Page My Youtube account, I have some cool game videos there << check it!! (:

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March 2nd, 2010	Top \| #26
Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,869 Reputation: 2369 Power: 173	Re: µTorrent 2.0 I haven't used a private tracker in a while either .. Paul Reed Smith.

March 9th, 2010	Top \| #27
Xie - geek - Joined: September 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 5,224 Reputation: 1730 Power: 175	Re: µTorrent 2.0 The reason for it's banning (well part of it really) ... other then it throttling users, is that it favors uTP over TCP and will try and fill every slot with them first. That means that it's only looking for uTorrent 2.0 clients first, and possible only for them. tehgeek \| tehgeek \| geeking out to tech \| IRC \| Parted Magic \| A+ Certified Professional

March 11th, 2010	Top \| #28
LordOfLA Godlike! Joined: February 2004 Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK Posts: 7,031 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 4137 Power: 213	Re: µTorrent 2.0 UTP and utorrents uTP are two totally different things - please ensure you're talking about the right thing UTP is the "fire and forget" protocol where as TCP is concerned about there actually being a stable connection. It was a very poor decision imo to name a traffic throttleing technology after the UTP protocol. If HK-47 and GLaDOS had a child, the character they create would cause the video game world to overdose on awesome. -sheridanmovieguy: Dragon age forum user.

March 11th, 2010	Top \| #29
Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,869 Reputation: 2369 Power: 173	Re: µTorrent 2.0 I am maybe they UTP in utorrent stands for uTorrent Protocol? Paul Reed Smith.

March 12th, 2010	Top \| #30
American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,864 Reputation: 2689 Power: 151	Re: µTorrent 2.0 http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0029....sport-protocol

March 13th, 2010	Top \| #31
Xie - geek - Joined: September 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 5,224 Reputation: 1730 Power: 175	Re: µTorrent 2.0 I had it correct. uTP is a transport protocol layered on top of UDP. The current version of uTorrent 2.0 favors, and in some cases ignores, non-2.0 clients. This means that for all the people in a swarm that aren't running 2.0 they might not be able to download/upload like they could in the pre-2.0 days. tehgeek \| tehgeek \| geeking out to tech \| IRC \| Parted Magic \| A+ Certified Professional

March 14th, 2010	Top \| #32
American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,864 Reputation: 2689 Power: 151	Re: µTorrent 2.0 Originally Posted by Xie I had it correct. The current version of uTorrent 2.0 favors, and in some cases ignores, non-2.0 clients. This means that for all the people in a swarm that aren't running 2.0 they might not be able to download/upload like they could in the pre-2.0 days. I don't think this is true. I have seen peers uploading/downloading from me with good speeds while using clients other than µTorrent or a pre 2.0 version of µTorrent. I tested a few torrents using 1.8 and 2.0 versions of µTorrent with no difference in speeds at all as the torrent completed in the same amount of time.

March 16th, 2010	Top \| #33
Xie - geek - Joined: September 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 5,224 Reputation: 1730 Power: 175	Re: µTorrent 2.0 Originally Posted by American Zombie I don't think this is true. I have seen peers uploading/downloading from me with good speeds while using clients other than µTorrent or a pre 2.0 version of µTorrent. I tested a few torrents using 1.8 and 2.0 versions of µTorrent with no difference in speeds at all as the torrent completed in the same amount of time. It is true (not 100% of the time) but that is why it's banned at several private trackers right now and why it's been kinda fixed in 2.0.1 build. If you have a smaller swarm though you'll probably connect to less non-uTorrent folks with 2.0 then you would before. It also really depends on how people configure the bt.transp_disposition settings. tehgeek \| tehgeek \| geeking out to tech \| IRC \| Parted Magic \| A+ Certified Professional

March 18th, 2010	Top \| #34
Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,869 Reputation: 2369 Power: 173	Re: µTorrent 2.0 I have noticed through out the years that I been using utorrent, that it is a little slower than some of the other ones. I am not sure why this is, but is something I got used to .. I would like to try and figure it out though. Something else, When you have it sitting there in idle mode and nothing downloading or uploading. You look at the traffic info; you will see that it is still uploading and downloading. Any idea why it does that? I know it's not the auto update feature, as I turned it off and it still did the same thing. I found that to be something that causes a lag on my connection, which in turn will force me to close it out to get the speed back up. Paul Reed Smith.

March 23rd, 2010	Top \| #35
Xie - geek - Joined: September 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 5,224 Reputation: 1730 Power: 175	Re: µTorrent 2.0 Originally Posted by Johnny I have noticed through out the years that I been using utorrent, that it is a little slower than some of the other ones. I am not sure why this is, but is something I got used to .. I would like to try and figure it out though. Something else, When you have it sitting there in idle mode and nothing downloading or uploading. You look at the traffic info; you will see that it is still uploading and downloading. Any idea why it does that? I know it's not the auto update feature, as I turned it off and it still did the same thing. I found that to be something that causes a lag on my connection, which in turn will force me to close it out to get the speed back up. I think the most "aggressive" client right now is Deluge (fastest). As far as that tiny bit of traffic, it's just uT checking with the tracker and checking with peers most likely. It's nothing to worry about and the amount of traffic is very small. tehgeek \| tehgeek \| geeking out to tech \| IRC \| Parted Magic \| A+ Certified Professional

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March 23rd, 2010	Top \| #36
LordOfLA Godlike! Joined: February 2004 Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK Posts: 7,031 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 4137 Power: 213	Re: µTorrent 2.0 It's occurred to me that I actually meant UDP in my previous post If HK-47 and GLaDOS had a child, the character they create would cause the video game world to overdose on awesome. -sheridanmovieguy: Dragon age forum user.

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Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,869 Reputation: 2369 Power: 173	Re: µTorrent 2.0 Originally Posted by LordOfLA It's occurred to me that I actually meant UDP in my previous post lol Paul Reed Smith.

March 23rd, 2010	Top \| #38
Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,869 Reputation: 2369 Power: 173	Re: µTorrent 2.0 Originally Posted by Xie I think the most "aggressive" client right now is Deluge (fastest). As far as that tiny bit of traffic, it's just uT checking with the tracker and checking with peers most likely. It's nothing to worry about and the amount of traffic is very small. That could be what it is. It is hard to say. I usually don't turn it on unless I am using it now .. Paul Reed Smith.