Torrent Downloading going very slowly

**Vanquished** · June 1st, 2011

Hey guys,
I have been having a problem with my torrent downloading lately. It doesn't matter the torrent they all go slow, I get a max Down speed of 100kb/s and it also doesn't matter what torrent application i use (Utorrent, Bit Comet, Tixati) I am assuming that this is because of p2p throttling by my isp?

My speedtest.net results:

Show that I do get a much better download speed than the 100kb/s i get downloading a torrent. I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions to increase performance of torrents/circumvent the throttling if you think thats what it is.

It's very annoying and in Utorrent I've enabled outgoing protocol encryption as was suggested somewhere else but it hasn't had any effect. I feel like this may be an issue I'll be stuck with until I leave this ISP but if you have any suggestions it would be greatly, greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

**Johnny** · June 1st, 2011

How many seeds are there? Is DHT running? A lot of it has to do with the other end. I have had some with 1 seed that ran pretty fast, and then have had some with 100 seeds that ran like a turtle.

**Vanquished** · June 1st, 2011

Originally Posted by Johnny

How many seeds are there? Is DHT running? A lot of it has to do with the other end. I have had some with 1 seed that ran pretty fast, and then have had some with 100 seeds that ran like a turtle.

Its been consistently slow for a while though, no matter the torrent... And before it was slow, it was very fast which makes me think the isp did something.
DHT is running, and I've tried torrents with (according to TPB) 3000 seeders, the ones im downloading right now I think have 300 seeders.
Right now, I'm using Tixati because I wanted to see if I messed up a setting in Utorrent which I apparently didn't

**Johnny** · June 1st, 2011

It could very well be that your ISP is throttling torrent files then. A way to get around that is to change the port. Use a higher port like 50,000 or higher.

**Vanquished** · June 3rd, 2011

Originally Posted by Johnny

It could very well be that your ISP is throttling torrent files then. A way to get around that is to change the port. Use a higher port like 50,000 or higher.

tried the port change, Utorrent had mine at 58,000 to begin with though... Didn't work

I bought BTGuard (at least for this month to try it) but it doesn't seem to be working. I get the same speeds as I do without it (I also tried the BTGuard Encryption). I'm connected via a router so im not sure if there is something I'm supposed to do there. Don't know if anyone here has any experience with BTGuard but if you do it would be great to figure out the best setup with a router, etc. I emailed the people at BTGuard that I paid for their software and haven't gotten a response yet (2 days ago)...
Thanks!

**Johnny** · June 3rd, 2011

Did you open the port in your router?

**Vanquished** · June 3rd, 2011

Originally Posted by Johnny

Did you open the port in your router?

Well I did, and i had it set to do it on its own, but I dont think it made a difference and I wasn't quite sure if BTGuard wanted me too. Still havent gotten any help from them...

**Johnny** · June 3rd, 2011

It is hard to say what it can be. I hope you get it fixed. You seem to have done everything to check it out. Give me a link or two of the torrents you are trying to download and I will see if it does it on my end as well?

**Vanquished** · June 4th, 2011

Originally Posted by Johnny

It is hard to say what it can be. I hope you get it fixed. You seem to have done everything to check it out. Give me a link or two of the torrents you are trying to download and I will see if it does it on my end as well?

Hey man, here is the test torrent they say to use on their website:
https://btguard.com/test.torrent

**Johnny** · June 4th, 2011

Originally Posted by Vanquished

Hey man, here is the test torrent they say to use on their website:
https://btguard.com/test.torrent

I am getting 2 meg speed with it. What router are you using? I am using a netgear.

**Vanquished** · June 4th, 2011

Hmm, I'm not surprised. I was getting around 1.3Megs down before they started throttling torrent speed. I have a netgear rangemax router (the computer is also connected via ethernet to the router). The router used to work well for torrent downloading but I may have changed something around I guess after BTGuard didn't seem to work. Ill take it out of the equation and try BTGuard.
Thanks!

**American Zombie** · June 4th, 2011

I get 2.5 to 3MB/s with that test file.

What router do you have?

3700?

**Vanquished** · June 5th, 2011

Originally Posted by American Zombie

I get 2.5 to 3MB/s with that test file.

What router do you have?

3700?

no no no lol, the one Im using on this connection is much older than that lol. Its the WPN824
But the router shouldnt be the problem. I know this router can transmit great speeds as it was downloading torrents like I said at 1.3 megs before it seems they started throttling, plus I'm using my desktop which is hard wired not wireless. I could get another router if that was the issue but I highly doubt it is.

^ On that note, the check mark is not illuminated anymore. I hard reset the router and Software reset the router to no avail. I dont know if its supposed to be lit up but I could have sworn that it always used to be.

**Vanquished** · June 5th, 2011

Oh by the way anybody used a seedbox? I feel like this is my last resort if I cant get BTGuard to work, I actually signed up for a 7 bucks a month one and am waiting for them to set it up (through SeedBox Hosting) Im worried about it being located overseas but we'll see I guess. What a hassle this stupid ISP has put me through...

**LordOfLA** · June 5th, 2011

if you can find a good one seedboxes are great.

One way around your ISP throttling is to use port 80 or 443

**Vanquished** · June 5th, 2011

Originally Posted by LordOfLA

if you can find a good one seedboxes are great.

One way around your ISP throttling is to use port 80 or 443

No Dice on the port

I opened 80 and set it to go through that (both in BTGuard and on regular utorrent).
I could try 443 but i doubt it would have an effect.
Im assuming this ISP put a lot of effort into throttling torrents because they actually list it as a positive on their website...

**American Zombie** · June 5th, 2011

I use high ports around the area of 48000-50000.

**Vanquished** · June 5th, 2011

Originally Posted by American Zombie

I use high ports around the area of 48000-50000.

Yea, i saw that before so I had it set previous to just changing it to 80 at 59100.
None of the simple things are working!

**LordOfLA** · June 5th, 2011

I was suggesting 80 or 443 as these are for web traffic and likely not throttled. You could force encyrpted connections only on those ports and see what happens.

Otherwise I'd suggest and alternative provider.

**Vanquished** · June 5th, 2011

Originally Posted by LordOfLA

I was suggesting 80 or 443 as these are for web traffic and likely not throttled. You could force encyrpted connections only on those ports and see what happens.

Otherwise I'd suggest and alternative provider.

I had a feeling thats what those ports were for. Yea i had force encryption only on as well

Unfortunately, there is not another provider unless I want to get hughes net...(which I don't)
Im just hoping I guess at this point that a seed box works.

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Vanquished B's logo for a game! Joined: January 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,840 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1816 Power: 144	Torrent Downloading going very slowly Hey guys, I have been having a problem with my torrent downloading lately. It doesn't matter the torrent they all go slow, I get a max Down speed of 100kb/s and it also doesn't matter what torrent application i use (Utorrent, Bit Comet, Tixati) I am assuming that this is because of p2p throttling by my isp? My speedtest.net results: Show that I do get a much better download speed than the 100kb/s i get downloading a torrent. I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions to increase performance of torrents/circumvent the throttling if you think thats what it is. It's very annoying and in Utorrent I've enabled outgoing protocol encryption as was suggested somewhere else but it hasn't had any effect. I feel like this may be an issue I'll be stuck with until I leave this ISP but if you have any suggestions it would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Thanks! Phenom II X4 955 BE \| 12GB DDR3 1600mhz \| Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 \| ATI Radeon 5770 CrossfireX \|Windows Awesome (I Mean... Windows 7 Ultimate!) OSNN - The Best Place to Stay on the Internet! Watch Improv-A-Ganza!

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Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,869 Reputation: 2369 Power: 173	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly How many seeds are there? Is DHT running? A lot of it has to do with the other end. I have had some with 1 seed that ran pretty fast, and then have had some with 100 seeds that ran like a turtle. Paul Reed Smith.

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Vanquished B's logo for a game! Joined: January 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,840 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1816 Power: 144	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly Originally Posted by Johnny How many seeds are there? Is DHT running? A lot of it has to do with the other end. I have had some with 1 seed that ran pretty fast, and then have had some with 100 seeds that ran like a turtle. Its been consistently slow for a while though, no matter the torrent... And before it was slow, it was very fast which makes me think the isp did something. DHT is running, and I've tried torrents with (according to TPB) 3000 seeders, the ones im downloading right now I think have 300 seeders. Right now, I'm using Tixati because I wanted to see if I messed up a setting in Utorrent which I apparently didn't Phenom II X4 955 BE \| 12GB DDR3 1600mhz \| Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 \| ATI Radeon 5770 CrossfireX \|Windows Awesome (I Mean... Windows 7 Ultimate!) OSNN - The Best Place to Stay on the Internet! Watch Improv-A-Ganza!

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Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,869 Reputation: 2369 Power: 173	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly It could very well be that your ISP is throttling torrent files then. A way to get around that is to change the port. Use a higher port like 50,000 or higher. Paul Reed Smith.

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Vanquished B's logo for a game! Joined: January 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,840 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1816 Power: 144	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly Originally Posted by Johnny It could very well be that your ISP is throttling torrent files then. A way to get around that is to change the port. Use a higher port like 50,000 or higher. tried the port change, Utorrent had mine at 58,000 to begin with though... Didn't work I bought BTGuard (at least for this month to try it) but it doesn't seem to be working. I get the same speeds as I do without it (I also tried the BTGuard Encryption). I'm connected via a router so im not sure if there is something I'm supposed to do there. Don't know if anyone here has any experience with BTGuard but if you do it would be great to figure out the best setup with a router, etc. I emailed the people at BTGuard that I paid for their software and haven't gotten a response yet (2 days ago)... Thanks! Phenom II X4 955 BE \| 12GB DDR3 1600mhz \| Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 \| ATI Radeon 5770 CrossfireX \|Windows Awesome (I Mean... Windows 7 Ultimate!) OSNN - The Best Place to Stay on the Internet! Watch Improv-A-Ganza!

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June 3rd, 2011	Top \| #6
Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,869 Reputation: 2369 Power: 173	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly Did you open the port in your router? Paul Reed Smith.

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Vanquished B's logo for a game! Joined: January 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,840 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1816 Power: 144	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly Originally Posted by Johnny Did you open the port in your router? Well I did, and i had it set to do it on its own, but I dont think it made a difference and I wasn't quite sure if BTGuard wanted me too. Still havent gotten any help from them... Phenom II X4 955 BE \| 12GB DDR3 1600mhz \| Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 \| ATI Radeon 5770 CrossfireX \|Windows Awesome (I Mean... Windows 7 Ultimate!) OSNN - The Best Place to Stay on the Internet! Watch Improv-A-Ganza!

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Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,869 Reputation: 2369 Power: 173	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly It is hard to say what it can be. I hope you get it fixed. You seem to have done everything to check it out. Give me a link or two of the torrents you are trying to download and I will see if it does it on my end as well? Paul Reed Smith.

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Vanquished B's logo for a game! Joined: January 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,840 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1816 Power: 144	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly Originally Posted by Johnny It is hard to say what it can be. I hope you get it fixed. You seem to have done everything to check it out. Give me a link or two of the torrents you are trying to download and I will see if it does it on my end as well? Hey man, here is the test torrent they say to use on their website: https://btguard.com/test.torrent Phenom II X4 955 BE \| 12GB DDR3 1600mhz \| Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 \| ATI Radeon 5770 CrossfireX \|Windows Awesome (I Mean... Windows 7 Ultimate!) OSNN - The Best Place to Stay on the Internet! Watch Improv-A-Ganza!

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Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,869 Reputation: 2369 Power: 173	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly Originally Posted by Vanquished Hey man, here is the test torrent they say to use on their website: https://btguard.com/test.torrent I am getting 2 meg speed with it. What router are you using? I am using a netgear. Paul Reed Smith.

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Vanquished B's logo for a game! Joined: January 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,840 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1816 Power: 144	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly Hmm, I'm not surprised. I was getting around 1.3Megs down before they started throttling torrent speed. I have a netgear rangemax router (the computer is also connected via ethernet to the router). The router used to work well for torrent downloading but I may have changed something around I guess after BTGuard didn't seem to work. Ill take it out of the equation and try BTGuard. Thanks! Phenom II X4 955 BE \| 12GB DDR3 1600mhz \| Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 \| ATI Radeon 5770 CrossfireX \|Windows Awesome (I Mean... Windows 7 Ultimate!) OSNN - The Best Place to Stay on the Internet! Watch Improv-A-Ganza!

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American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,864 Reputation: 2689 Power: 151	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly I get 2.5 to 3MB/s with that test file. What router do you have? 3700?

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Vanquished B's logo for a game! Joined: January 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,840 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1816 Power: 144	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly Originally Posted by American Zombie I get 2.5 to 3MB/s with that test file. What router do you have? 3700? no no no lol, the one Im using on this connection is much older than that lol. Its the WPN824 But the router shouldnt be the problem. I know this router can transmit great speeds as it was downloading torrents like I said at 1.3 megs before it seems they started throttling, plus I'm using my desktop which is hard wired not wireless. I could get another router if that was the issue but I highly doubt it is. ^ On that note, the check mark is not illuminated anymore. I hard reset the router and Software reset the router to no avail. I dont know if its supposed to be lit up but I could have sworn that it always used to be. Phenom II X4 955 BE \| 12GB DDR3 1600mhz \| Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 \| ATI Radeon 5770 CrossfireX \|Windows Awesome (I Mean... Windows 7 Ultimate!) OSNN - The Best Place to Stay on the Internet! Watch Improv-A-Ganza!

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Vanquished B's logo for a game! Joined: January 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,840 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1816 Power: 144	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly Oh by the way anybody used a seedbox? I feel like this is my last resort if I cant get BTGuard to work, I actually signed up for a 7 bucks a month one and am waiting for them to set it up (through SeedBox Hosting) Im worried about it being located overseas but we'll see I guess. What a hassle this stupid ISP has put me through... Phenom II X4 955 BE \| 12GB DDR3 1600mhz \| Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 \| ATI Radeon 5770 CrossfireX \|Windows Awesome (I Mean... Windows 7 Ultimate!) OSNN - The Best Place to Stay on the Internet! Watch Improv-A-Ganza!

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LordOfLA Godlike! Joined: February 2004 Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK Posts: 7,031 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 4137 Power: 213	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly if you can find a good one seedboxes are great. One way around your ISP throttling is to use port 80 or 443 If HK-47 and GLaDOS had a child, the character they create would cause the video game world to overdose on awesome. -sheridanmovieguy: Dragon age forum user.

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Vanquished B's logo for a game! Joined: January 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,840 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1816 Power: 144	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly Originally Posted by LordOfLA if you can find a good one seedboxes are great. One way around your ISP throttling is to use port 80 or 443 No Dice on the port I opened 80 and set it to go through that (both in BTGuard and on regular utorrent). I could try 443 but i doubt it would have an effect. Im assuming this ISP put a lot of effort into throttling torrents because they actually list it as a positive on their website... Phenom II X4 955 BE \| 12GB DDR3 1600mhz \| Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 \| ATI Radeon 5770 CrossfireX \|Windows Awesome (I Mean... Windows 7 Ultimate!) OSNN - The Best Place to Stay on the Internet! Watch Improv-A-Ganza!

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American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,864 Reputation: 2689 Power: 151	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly I use high ports around the area of 48000-50000.

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Vanquished B's logo for a game! Joined: January 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,840 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1816 Power: 144	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly Originally Posted by American Zombie I use high ports around the area of 48000-50000. Yea, i saw that before so I had it set previous to just changing it to 80 at 59100. None of the simple things are working! Phenom II X4 955 BE \| 12GB DDR3 1600mhz \| Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 \| ATI Radeon 5770 CrossfireX \|Windows Awesome (I Mean... Windows 7 Ultimate!) OSNN - The Best Place to Stay on the Internet! Watch Improv-A-Ganza!

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LordOfLA Godlike! Joined: February 2004 Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK Posts: 7,031 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 4137 Power: 213	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly I was suggesting 80 or 443 as these are for web traffic and likely not throttled. You could force encyrpted connections only on those ports and see what happens. Otherwise I'd suggest and alternative provider. If HK-47 and GLaDOS had a child, the character they create would cause the video game world to overdose on awesome. -sheridanmovieguy: Dragon age forum user.

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Vanquished B's logo for a game! Joined: January 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,840 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1816 Power: 144	Re: Torrent Downloading going very slowly Originally Posted by LordOfLA I was suggesting 80 or 443 as these are for web traffic and likely not throttled. You could force encyrpted connections only on those ports and see what happens. Otherwise I'd suggest and alternative provider. I had a feeling thats what those ports were for. Yea i had force encryption only on as well Unfortunately, there is not another provider unless I want to get hughes net...(which I don't) Im just hoping I guess at this point that a seed box works. Phenom II X4 955 BE \| 12GB DDR3 1600mhz \| Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 \| ATI Radeon 5770 CrossfireX \|Windows Awesome (I Mean... Windows 7 Ultimate!) OSNN - The Best Place to Stay on the Internet! Watch Improv-A-Ganza!