Windows 7 - First Impressions - Page 4

**Tuffgong4** · January 15th, 2009

Nothing is working. I've set up permissions in other OSes to do this type of thing but it is not working in Windows 7...any one suggest a live disc that would allow me to delete this?

**American Zombie** · January 15th, 2009

Originally Posted by assclown

I don't really think it matters. Can you log in as "the" administrator in windows 7? And if so, what is the point? Would that not just completely rule out or disable UAC that protects againts administrative changes in the first place? Bad juju.

I enable the Admin account then delete the one created at setup.
I don't need or want any UAC prompts, file/registry virtualization

Same as enabling it in Vista ---> Enable Real Administrator

Not all people should enable this or use this account all the time like I do.

**American Zombie** · January 15th, 2009

Originally Posted by Tuffgong4

Nothing is working. I've set up permissions in other OSes to do this type of thing but it is not working in Windows 7...any one suggest a live disc that would allow me to delete this?

Can't you go into disk cleanup and delete it from the list?

**LordOfLA** · January 15th, 2009

Originally Posted by perris

ok lord, you're getting too defensive, of course your post needed clarifying otherwise I would not have clarified it, we all need clarification at times, some of us get touchy about it when it happens some don't, I know I've gotten touchy about it in the past and I see (whether you see it or not) that you are touchy about it now

you can have the last word and tell me again that the post I did not understand was understandable to everyone but me and then we can both be happy

now I am done with this conversation and it's time to move on, enjoy your last word

I'm not being defensive. I'm just failing to see how you could not understand what I meant when I said administrator. I really don't see how you could convert "administrator" to "the user that vista makes for you at the end of setup and gets you clicking run as admin". Unless you call yours administrator, but since that already exists I doubt you could...

And besides - the user that vista creates for you is in the administrators group so it gets full admin access so long as you choose run as admin anyway. So by giving administrator (the user) or administrators (the group) permissions to a file/folder you gain full access either way.

Now please clarify what you did not understand in "Administrator"...

**ming** · January 15th, 2009

Originally Posted by lancer

80gb's is hardly massive, i have about 4tbs and that is only just enough, i would use up 80gbs in about 4 hours.....

That depends on how you use your HD. I use a small HD for the OS and a separate drive for storing other files. My 'Program Files' folder only contains around 4GB of application related files while Vista is using around 18-22GB currently.
For me, I don't see the need of having anything bigger than my 36GB raptor as an OS drive - but Vista is pushing it.

btw, I have tried the vsp1cln.exe and only managed to recover around 1.5-2GB of space.

**American Zombie** · January 15th, 2009

Originally Posted by ming

That depends on how you use your HD. I use a small HD for the OS and a separate drive for storing other files. My 'Program Files' folder only contains around 4GB of application related files while Vista is using around 18-22GB currently.
For me, I don't see the need of having anything bigger than my 36GB raptor as an OS drive - but Vista is pushing it.

btw, I have tried the vsp1cln.exe and only managed to recover around 1.5-2GB of space.

Have you tried adjusting the amount of space that Vista can use for restore points?
In XP there was a slider to adjust how much space could be used but this was removed in Vista.
By default Vista can use up to 15% of your drive for restore.

Open a command prompt (run as admin) then type these commands:

To list existing volume shadow copies type the following command then press enter:

vssadmin list shadows

To display copy storage associations on the system and their size:

vssadmin list shadowstorage

You can use the vssadmin resize shadowstorage command to resize the storage area if it is to big (or small) for your needs.

Say you wanted to resize the space to 3 GB maximum:

vssadmin resize shadowstorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=3GB

NOTE: If you turn system restore off then back on after resizing you will have to resize again as Vista will go back to default values.

**Tuffgong4** · January 15th, 2009

Originally Posted by American Zombie

Can't you go into disk cleanup and delete it from the list?

didn't get that option when I went into disk cleanup

Quartersndimes · January 18th, 2009

I got it about 3 days ago, and I like it. It is a whole lot faster than Vista, but it does have some downsides. the taskbar does not show any text whatsoever. kinda annoying. Windows should have stuck with the XP style OS. But I like. One thing is the fact that it interferes with Windows XP. I have had a few Admin problems, but it ok. I'd give Microsoft a 2-star rating out of 5.

bmclaughlin807 · January 18th, 2009

Originally Posted by Quartersndimes

I got it about 3 days ago, and I like it. It is a whole lot faster than Vista, but it does have some downsides. the taskbar does not show any text whatsoever. kinda annoying. Windows should have stuck with the XP style OS. But I like. One thing is the fact that it interferes with Windows XP. I have had a few Admin problems, but it ok. I'd give Microsoft a 2-star rating out of 5.

If you don't like the taskbar, change it. Takes like 10 seconds (If you're slow)

How would it interfere with Windows XP?

**American Zombie** · January 18th, 2009

Originally Posted by Quartersndimes

I got it about 3 days ago, and I like it. It is a whole lot faster than Vista, but it does have some downsides. the taskbar does not show any text whatsoever. kinda annoying. Windows should have stuck with the XP style OS. But I like. One thing is the fact that it interferes with Windows XP. I have had a few Admin problems, but it ok. I'd give Microsoft a 2-star rating out of 5.

I am dual booting 7 and XP without any problems at all.

As far as the taskbar:

right-click taskbar > properties > taskbar > taskbar buttons

Change it to never combine or combine when taskbar is full

bmclaughlin · January 19th, 2009

Ok... found my first problem:

I can't activate Office 2007... I put in the key, it goes to configure Office, then crashes.

**Johnny** · January 19th, 2009

I had no problem with office 2k7. It works great - I also have a corporate version from work. So that could be why.

**American Zombie** · January 19th, 2009

Originally Posted by bmclaughlin

Ok... found my first problem:

I can't activate Office 2007... I put in the key, it goes to configure Office, then crashes.

Send Feedback or post/check the Windows 7 beta forum.

**Johnny** · January 19th, 2009

Originally Posted by bmclaughlin

Ok... found my first problem:

I can't activate Office 2007... I put in the key, it goes to configure Office, then crashes.

Did you try to uinstall it then, reinstall it .. it might be a bad install ..

bmclaughlin · January 19th, 2009

Originally Posted by Johnny

Did you try to uinstall it then, reinstall it .. it might be a bad install ..

Might be... 30 seconds of quick research (all I had before someone needed help) shows that this most likely isn't a problem with Windows 7... I'll look into it further when I have time.

It's Office Enterprise, Volume License as well.

bmclaughlin · January 19th, 2009

Stupid, @#$@#$@ thing just wanted the install disc in the drive. Worked fine once the disc was available.

Quartersndimes · January 19th, 2009

wow. you guys really get into this stuff. i kinda like it now. I doesnt like my onboard VGA, though. Put it does piss me off. I can run Halo 1 on XP on the same exact PC, HDD, and everything, but I cant run it on 7. Pieceoffreakincrap.

**LordOfLA** · January 19th, 2009

well if you will use cheap integrated hardware you will suffer for it...

Quartersndimes · January 19th, 2009

Okay, I have had freakin enough. How do I get rid of the BIOS that allows me to switch OSs? I want 2 delete 7 off my PC 4 good.

**Kr0m** · January 19th, 2009

No real issues here. I'm getting used to the taskbar changes.
So far, it seems to be more efficient than Vista but we'll see what happens by the time it goes retail.

(Triple booting Vista, Windows 7, Ubuntu without any hitches)

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Tuffgong4 The Donger Need Food!!!! Joined: June 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,465 Reputation: 840 Power: 150	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Nothing is working. I've set up permissions in other OSes to do this type of thing but it is not working in Windows 7...any one suggest a live disc that would allow me to delete this? Home Intel E6600 \ Abit AB9 Pro \ 4 gig Corsair DDR2-667 \ EVGA 9800GT \ HDD 1 320GB sata + 1 1.5TB sata \ 1 1TB backup drive / Samsung S183L SATA DVD-RW \ Windows 7 Pro x64 Laptop Asus UL30VT\ Intel CULV SU7300 \ 4GB Ram \ Intel Integrated + Nvidia 200m \ 500GB HDD \ 13.3 inch LED \ Windows 7 Premium x64

January 15th, 2009	Top \| #62
American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,849 Reputation: 2689 Power: 148	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Originally Posted by assclown I don't really think it matters. Can you log in as "the" administrator in windows 7? And if so, what is the point? Would that not just completely rule out or disable UAC that protects againts administrative changes in the first place? Bad juju. I enable the Admin account then delete the one created at setup. I don't need or want any UAC prompts, file/registry virtualization Same as enabling it in Vista ---> Enable Real Administrator Not all people should enable this or use this account all the time like I do.

January 15th, 2009	Top \| #63
American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,849 Reputation: 2689 Power: 148	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Originally Posted by Tuffgong4 Nothing is working. I've set up permissions in other OSes to do this type of thing but it is not working in Windows 7...any one suggest a live disc that would allow me to delete this? Can't you go into disk cleanup and delete it from the list?

January 15th, 2009	Top \| #64
LordOfLA Godlike! Joined: February 2004 Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 4137 Power: 209	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Originally Posted by perris ok lord, you're getting too defensive, of course your post needed clarifying otherwise I would not have clarified it, we all need clarification at times, some of us get touchy about it when it happens some don't, I know I've gotten touchy about it in the past and I see (whether you see it or not) that you are touchy about it now you can have the last word and tell me again that the post I did not understand was understandable to everyone but me and then we can both be happy now I am done with this conversation and it's time to move on, enjoy your last word I'm not being defensive. I'm just failing to see how you could not understand what I meant when I said administrator. I really don't see how you could convert "administrator" to "the user that vista makes for you at the end of setup and gets you clicking run as admin". Unless you call yours administrator, but since that already exists I doubt you could... And besides - the user that vista creates for you is in the administrators group so it gets full admin access so long as you choose run as admin anyway. So by giving administrator (the user) or administrators (the group) permissions to a file/folder you gain full access either way. Now please clarify what you did not understand in "Administrator"... If HK-47 and GLaDOS had a child, the character they create would cause the video game world to overdose on awesome. -sheridanmovieguy: Dragon age forum user.

January 15th, 2009	Top \| #65
ming OSNN Advanced Joined: June 2003 Location: UK Posts: 4,252 Reputation: 1160 Power: 159	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Originally Posted by lancer 80gb's is hardly massive, i have about 4tbs and that is only just enough, i would use up 80gbs in about 4 hours..... That depends on how you use your HD. I use a small HD for the OS and a separate drive for storing other files. My 'Program Files' folder only contains around 4GB of application related files while Vista is using around 18-22GB currently. For me, I don't see the need of having anything bigger than my 36GB raptor as an OS drive - but Vista is pushing it. btw, I have tried the vsp1cln.exe and only managed to recover around 1.5-2GB of space. Curent system: Intel Quad Core 9450 \| 4GB RAM \| WD Raptor 36GB \| nVidia 8800GT 512mb

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January 15th, 2009	Top \| #66
American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,849 Reputation: 2689 Power: 148	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Originally Posted by ming That depends on how you use your HD. I use a small HD for the OS and a separate drive for storing other files. My 'Program Files' folder only contains around 4GB of application related files while Vista is using around 18-22GB currently. For me, I don't see the need of having anything bigger than my 36GB raptor as an OS drive - but Vista is pushing it. btw, I have tried the vsp1cln.exe and only managed to recover around 1.5-2GB of space. Have you tried adjusting the amount of space that Vista can use for restore points? In XP there was a slider to adjust how much space could be used but this was removed in Vista. By default Vista can use up to 15% of your drive for restore. Open a command prompt (run as admin) then type these commands: To list existing volume shadow copies type the following command then press enter: vssadmin list shadows To display copy storage associations on the system and their size: vssadmin list shadowstorage You can use the vssadmin resize shadowstorage command to resize the storage area if it is to big (or small) for your needs. Say you wanted to resize the space to 3 GB maximum: vssadmin resize shadowstorage /For=C: /On=C: /MaxSize=3GB NOTE: If you turn system restore off then back on after resizing you will have to resize again as Vista will go back to default values.

January 15th, 2009	Top \| #67
Tuffgong4 The Donger Need Food!!!! Joined: June 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,465 Reputation: 840 Power: 150	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Originally Posted by American Zombie Can't you go into disk cleanup and delete it from the list? didn't get that option when I went into disk cleanup Home Intel E6600 \ Abit AB9 Pro \ 4 gig Corsair DDR2-667 \ EVGA 9800GT \ HDD 1 320GB sata + 1 1.5TB sata \ 1 1TB backup drive / Samsung S183L SATA DVD-RW \ Windows 7 Pro x64 Laptop Asus UL30VT\ Intel CULV SU7300 \ 4GB Ram \ Intel Integrated + Nvidia 200m \ 500GB HDD \ 13.3 inch LED \ Windows 7 Premium x64

January 18th, 2009	Top \| #68
Quartersndimes Complete Genius. . . Joined: November 2007 Posts: 90 Reputation: 0 Power: 52	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions I got it about 3 days ago, and I like it. It is a whole lot faster than Vista, but it does have some downsides. the taskbar does not show any text whatsoever. kinda annoying. Windows should have stuck with the XP style OS. But I like. One thing is the fact that it interferes with Windows XP. I have had a few Admin problems, but it ok. I'd give Microsoft a 2-star rating out of 5. "But before he could make it back to the Bat-Cave, Abraham Lincoln jumped out'a his grave. He took an AK-47 out from under his hat, And blew Batman away with a rat-a-tat-tat. But he ran out'a bullets and he ran away, Because Optimus Prime came to save the day." "Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny" Hilarious Song!

January 18th, 2009	Top \| #69
bmclaughlin807 Let's blow something up. Joined: April 2008 Location: Denver Posts: 84 Reputation: 50 Power: 47	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Originally Posted by Quartersndimes I got it about 3 days ago, and I like it. It is a whole lot faster than Vista, but it does have some downsides. the taskbar does not show any text whatsoever. kinda annoying. Windows should have stuck with the XP style OS. But I like. One thing is the fact that it interferes with Windows XP. I have had a few Admin problems, but it ok. I'd give Microsoft a 2-star rating out of 5. If you don't like the taskbar, change it. Takes like 10 seconds (If you're slow) How would it interfere with Windows XP?

January 18th, 2009	Top \| #70
American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,849 Reputation: 2689 Power: 148	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Originally Posted by Quartersndimes I got it about 3 days ago, and I like it. It is a whole lot faster than Vista, but it does have some downsides. the taskbar does not show any text whatsoever. kinda annoying. Windows should have stuck with the XP style OS. But I like. One thing is the fact that it interferes with Windows XP. I have had a few Admin problems, but it ok. I'd give Microsoft a 2-star rating out of 5. I am dual booting 7 and XP without any problems at all. As far as the taskbar: right-click taskbar > properties > taskbar > taskbar buttons Change it to never combine or combine when taskbar is full

January 19th, 2009	Top \| #71
bmclaughlin Let's break something. Joined: May 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45 Reputation: 10 Power: 46	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Ok... found my first problem: I can't activate Office 2007... I put in the key, it goes to configure Office, then crashes. Attached Thumbnails

January 19th, 2009	Top \| #72
Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,838 Reputation: 2369 Power: 170	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions I had no problem with office 2k7. It works great - I also have a corporate version from work. So that could be why. Paul Reed Smith.

January 19th, 2009	Top \| #73
American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,849 Reputation: 2689 Power: 148	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Originally Posted by bmclaughlin Ok... found my first problem: I can't activate Office 2007... I put in the key, it goes to configure Office, then crashes. Send Feedback or post/check the Windows 7 beta forum.

January 19th, 2009	Top \| #74
Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,838 Reputation: 2369 Power: 170	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Originally Posted by bmclaughlin Ok... found my first problem: I can't activate Office 2007... I put in the key, it goes to configure Office, then crashes. Did you try to uinstall it then, reinstall it .. it might be a bad install .. Paul Reed Smith.

January 19th, 2009	Top \| #75
bmclaughlin Let's break something. Joined: May 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45 Reputation: 10 Power: 46	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Originally Posted by Johnny Did you try to uinstall it then, reinstall it .. it might be a bad install .. Might be... 30 seconds of quick research (all I had before someone needed help) shows that this most likely isn't a problem with Windows 7... I'll look into it further when I have time. It's Office Enterprise, Volume License as well.

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January 19th, 2009	Top \| #76
bmclaughlin Let's break something. Joined: May 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45 Reputation: 10 Power: 46	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Stupid, @#$@#$@ thing just wanted the install disc in the drive. Worked fine once the disc was available.

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Quartersndimes Complete Genius. . . Joined: November 2007 Posts: 90 Reputation: 0 Power: 52	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions wow. you guys really get into this stuff. i kinda like it now. I doesnt like my onboard VGA, though. Put it does piss me off. I can run Halo 1 on XP on the same exact PC, HDD, and everything, but I cant run it on 7. Pieceoffreakincrap. "But before he could make it back to the Bat-Cave, Abraham Lincoln jumped out'a his grave. He took an AK-47 out from under his hat, And blew Batman away with a rat-a-tat-tat. But he ran out'a bullets and he ran away, Because Optimus Prime came to save the day." "Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny" Hilarious Song!

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LordOfLA Godlike! Joined: February 2004 Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 4137 Power: 209	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions well if you will use cheap integrated hardware you will suffer for it... If HK-47 and GLaDOS had a child, the character they create would cause the video game world to overdose on awesome. -sheridanmovieguy: Dragon age forum user.

January 19th, 2009	Top \| #79
Quartersndimes Complete Genius. . . Joined: November 2007 Posts: 90 Reputation: 0 Power: 52	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions Okay, I have had freakin enough. How do I get rid of the BIOS that allows me to switch OSs? I want 2 delete 7 off my PC 4 good. "But before he could make it back to the Bat-Cave, Abraham Lincoln jumped out'a his grave. He took an AK-47 out from under his hat, And blew Batman away with a rat-a-tat-tat. But he ran out'a bullets and he ran away, Because Optimus Prime came to save the day." "Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny" Hilarious Song!

January 19th, 2009	Top \| #80
Kr0m OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: December 2001 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 1,389 Reputation: 290 Power: 140	Re: Windows 7 - First Impressions No real issues here. I'm getting used to the taskbar changes. So far, it seems to be more efficient than Vista but we'll see what happens by the time it goes retail. (Triple booting Vista, Windows 7, Ubuntu without any hitches)