XP hangs..rrrgh!!!

Discussion in 'Windows Desktop Systems' started by Zodiaq, Dec 12, 2002.

  1. Zodiaq

    Zodiaq Guest

    This just started a few days ago.

    After I boot and go to my user Windows completely loads and then BAM...Freezes for about a minute or so. This is driving me nuts!!! It doesn't do it all the time, maybe 1 outta 3 tries.

    Any Idea what could cause this? I really haven't installed anything recently...no new processes.


    Quick Specs:

    Intel P4 2.53 Ghz
    Crucial PC 2700
    ATI 8500DV
     
  2. Hipster Doofus

    Hipster Doofus Good grief Charlie Brown

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    See if these do anything. Start with the workstation first>

    Correcting System Hang at Startup

    If your system hangs about 2 or 3 minutes at startup, where you can't access the Start button or the Taskbar, it may be due to one specific service (Background Intelligent Transfer) running in the background. Microsoft put out a patch for this but
    it didn't work for me. Here's what you do:

    1. Click on Start/Run, type 'msconfig', then click 'OK'.
    2. Go to the 'Services' tab, find the 'Background Intelligent Transfer' service, disable it, apply the changes & reboot.




    Also if not on a network disable 'workstation' at the same place as above.
     
  3. Glaanieboy

    Glaanieboy Moderator

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    Has some of your software that automatically starts up the possibility to update without interfering the user (like Anti-Virus software, Windows Update?). Perhaps that is the problem. Maybe some new driver or so was released or new virusdefinitions, that *could* cause the problem, if you are ABSOLUTELY sure you haven't installed things lately.
    A little drastic, but try System Restore.
     
  4. Zodiaq

    Zodiaq Guest

    Actually I allready have the Background Intelligent Transfer disabled.

    As far as updates. Yeah I have downloaded new updates recently and also Live updates with Norton...

    System Restore...nah. There's gotta be another fix.
     
  5. allan

    allan Guest

    If you are not on a network, disable the Workstation service.
     
  6. Zodiaq

    Zodiaq Guest

    I do have a network set up...geez,

    Any more suggestions?
     
  7. allan

    allan Guest

    I'm afaid there may not be much you can do. The workstation service installs the protocols required to set up and maintain the client network. Depending on the system, this can take a minute or so.
     
  8. Zodiaq

    Zodiaq Guest

    Thanks for the feedback...I have had my network set up for over 3 months and never had this problem before, only the last couple of days, so I don't understand how the Workstation service just decided to take more time to set up the network protocols:confused:
     
  9. allan

    allan Guest

    Ahhh - this is new. Then it isn't the service.

    I'd look in msconfig and see if there's something new starting with the system. You can always uncheck everything in msconfig and reboot. If the system starts quickly you can start adding things back one at a time until the problem recurs and then you'll have identified the culprit.
     
  10. Zodiaq

    Zodiaq Guest

    Allan...Thanks,

    I am a very tidy person...I have one item in the startup and that is Norton Anti-Virus.

    Minimal Services....always watching for a new one to pop up;)

    Anything else? Appreciate it:D
     
  11. allan

    allan Guest

    Gee, if it just started there are only so many things it can be:

    1) A delay starting a service
    2) A delay starting an app
    3) Hardware issue
    4) Need to defrag
    5) Spyware or adware

    Again, a selective startup may solve the problem. If after unselecting all the startup items (including services) the system boots normally then you'll know the hangup is with an app (a service). Then by adding them back one or two at a time you can identify the one causing the problem.

    However, if a selective startup doesn't solve the problem you are possibly looking at a hardware problem (which might even be a driver conflict of some sort). This would be my last guess however.

    Of course you could try a system restore to a point just before the problem started.
     
  12. Octopus

    Octopus Moderator

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    yes Zodiac should try the defragmentation
     
  13. koko

    koko Got Root?

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    same thing happened to me a few weeks ago. it turned out to the nimbda virus.

    after a format, everything was fine! ;)
     
  14. HellyHans

    HellyHans OSNN Addict

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    Did you try with the Bootvis software??
     
  15. Zodiaq

    Zodiaq Guest

    Thanks for all the input everyone....

    Like I said "Very Tidy" I defrag every 2 days.

    I have no spyware, trojans or viruses.

    Only the few necessary services...


    Now I am really starting to panic!!! I use Photoshop regularly and after I launched it last night...It runs so slooow...I'm really worried, never had this problem...

    I mean using any tool:eek: It delays for about 5-10 seconds.

    Even choosing a new layer...ouch...what the hell is happening here.

    I guess I might just have to reformat...damnit!!!
     
  16. Octopus

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    maybe your PC is dying :eek: my old PC had the same thing..the processor turned into black coal
    you can try Sisoftware Sandra..it's a benchmark tool..if everything goes ok then the problem is with the OS itself..if not..then buy a coffin for your PC.
     
  17. Zodiaq

    Zodiaq Guest

    Octopus...It's definitely not dying...lol

    I just built it 3 months ago....


    Specs:

    Black Chenming 601 case w/full window
    ASUS P4S533 Mobo
    Intel P4 2.53 Ghz
    512 MB Crucial PC 2700/333 DDR
    WD 80GB/8MB cache
    WD 120GB/2MB cache
    ATI AIW 8500DV
    Antec True Blue 480W PSU
    Pioneer DVD-R/RW A04
    Lite on 40x12x48 CD-RW
    Soundblaster Live 5.1
    Inspire 5300 Speakers
    NEC Multisync LCD 17" Display

    I'm thinking OS...Oh well....Time to Format;)
     
  18. Zodiaq

    Zodiaq Guest

    Forgot to mention...I've benched everything in Sandra with some pretty sweet results:D
     
  19. Octopus

    Octopus Moderator

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    when I lost my old PC ( 550MHZ+10G hd+64MB ram - a year ago) I was on the edge of death, if my current PC ( 1.5GHZ) dies..no doubt about it that I will folow it!

    do formatting..I remember that you said that Quake increases your PC heat,I asked myself how does he know about this?is it a program, the answer was yes Zodiac is using a program to measure the heat......well Zodiac..those kind of programs CORRUPT your drivers and of course your chip's information,drivers etc are being corrupted...so I go with format!
     
  20. Glaanieboy

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    [offtopic]Hey, I am gonna buy such a system too next year, but then with a different videocard![/offtopic]