x-box Vs ps2

Discussion in 'Console Gaming' started by Henyman, Oct 31, 2002.

  1. Henyman

    Henyman Secret Goat Fetish Political User

    ok so i'm gona buy me a games console which is better? all opinions/facts/real life experiences plezz:D
  2. New Disease

    New Disease Whatever...

    ps2 wins easily so much more [quality] games

    all x box has got is halo and a few games from the ps2
  3. Henyman

    Henyman Secret Goat Fetish Political User

    true but they nicked the good games from the ps2:p
  4. Nick M

    Nick M Moderator

    Well; I don't play games much; but my PC is the ultimate gaming machine ;)

    I had a Ps2 before, and had to sell it; but if anything; go with the Playstation 2; you won't regret it.

    Do you really want to have another MS appliance in your house !?
    One that does not have that many good games on it.
  5. New Disease

    New Disease Whatever...

    ps2 isnt a big fat space waster like the x box and its brick controls

    ps2 looks better
  6. Glaanieboy

    Glaanieboy Moderator

    The Netherlands
    If you want to have the highest quality in graphics and sound, go for the XBox. There aren't much games that'll give you beautiful graphcs AND a great gameplay, but if you don't mind, do it. Also the XBox is 1 1/2 years younger than the PS2 so there aren't much games.
    The big advantage for the PS2 is the amount and variety of games. Sony had build up some very good relationships with big developers during the time the PSX was at it's peak level. The majority of these developers also went developing for the PS2. Some of the early games for the PS2 weren't that great, it was very hard to understand the programmingcode built in the PS2 (during the first year of it's release, for example, developers had a very difficult time dealing with the anti-aliasing effects), but when time passed by and developers got more handy in PS2 programming, it went like a rocket and some of the best games came out (Jak and Daxter, GTA3, Gran Turismo 3, Metal Gear Solid 2).
    The XBox is virtually a PC. It uses a processor developed by Intel (a Celeron tweaked especially for games) and a nVidia Geforce 2 GPU, so it is very easy to develop for the XBox. My guess is, that game-developers are lazy in tweaking their software (what they have to do on the PS2, because of it's limits), because it is so easy to make a game, all they have to do is to convert the PC-version of the game. There are some games that break that theory (Halo, Abe's Odysee, Wreckless), but it stands for most games on the XBox.
    The XBox is a very fine machine, but it hasn't reached it's full potential, they haven't stretched it's limits. They have to learn what they can do with the XBox, just like they eventually learned to deal with the limits on the PS2. So if you have the patience to wait for the better games and you are interested in games like Halo, Abe Odysee, go for the XBox. The risk is, of course that there won't come any good games or maybe 2 good games and there you are, with your XBox with three games.
    If you are a game-lover, who wants to buy a large variety of games and the certainty of (good) games still coming out, go for the PS2. And it looks good too, not unimportant either.

    BTW, the only game that was 'nicked' from the PS2, was Abe's Odysee. The developer didn't think the PS2 could handle such large levels as there are in AO. Now that we are almost a year later, the same developer now thinks of rejoining the Sony team, but they can't, because of an exclusive contract with Microsoft.
  7. Hipster Doofus

    Hipster Doofus Good grief Charlie Brown

    Melbourne Australia
    Microsoft are threatening to take the xbox out of Australia because mod chips are legal here. Goodbye xbox. I don't think it will be missed.
  8. New Disease

    New Disease Whatever...

    i didn't mean x-box "nicked" the games im just saying most of its better titles were already out on the ps2 long before x-box and its large ass controllers got its hands on them

    p.s. i have a ps2 i love it
    get a ps2
  9. i wouldnt buy any of those. PC is doing pretty good job i'd say.
  10. Sazar

    Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Staff Member Political User Folding Team

    Between Austin and Tampa
    I would also stick with my pc...

    I have played max payne on both consoles and it is no comparison whatsoever... my pc's rendering is MILES better than anything I have seen on the other 2 consoles..

    that said... I would go with the XBOX...

    true it does not have as many titles as the ps2... but it has a hard drive... you have a lot of games being ported to all the consoles right now...

    there are a few very good games for the xbox... I would buy the xbox for halo alone... in all my time playing games it is the BEST I have ever played... and you can use every single button on the controller... the default controller is big but you can purchase off the shelf replacements which are far better...

    now the console has much much better graphics than the ps2... it is faster as well as not having to use memory sticks and what not :)

    I like the ps2 btw... don't get me wrong... BUT xbox is flat out better... as I said most of the games today are being ported to all the consoles...

    great games to look out for... time splitters 2... madden 2k3... HALO of course... dead 2 rights (anohter excellent xbox game)...

    and you end up paying the same amount of money for something that is more powerful/better looking/more versatile than the ps2...

    plus xbox live is coming out soon...

    my recommendation? check out the title lists first and make up your mind based on that...
  11. Henyman

    Henyman Secret Goat Fetish Political User

    wow!!! thanx all that is some great feedback:D:D
  12. Grandmaster

    Grandmaster Electronica Addict Political User Folding Team

    Santa Clara, CA

    I would say get an xbox. Like Sazar, I've played Halo it is is THE best game to get. Ps2 does have a few quality titles that no other system has, however the same is true about the xbox. Xbox LIVE is coming, so how about Unreal Championship?(basically a port of ut2k3), or how abot Ghost Recon? Or Halo 2 next year? Plus games like Splinter Cell, or MGS2?

    In the end, choose the system that you personally like. :)
  13. Henyman

    Henyman Secret Goat Fetish Political User

    :D thanx
  14. ManInCamo

    ManInCamo Guest

  15. Henyman

    Henyman Secret Goat Fetish Political User

    please remove that link before i get a mod 2 remove it. it contains a lot of swearing so cant b posted. read the forum guildlines here

  16. SPeedY_B

    SPeedY_B I may actually be insane.

    Midlands, England
    PS2 = 70's VCR
    xBox (After Modding) Runs SuSe Linux ^_^

    Personaly i can never be bothered with games, but im quite content with my PS2 :)
  17. ManInCamo

    ManInCamo Guest

    You guys are rediculous.

    Are we hosting a 3rd grade class? its a link to a third party website, i wasn't posting bad words. how lame. here, I'll copy and edit the 'bad' words out
    Is this elementry schoolish enough?

    1. ****-poor design.
    The system is the brain child of Seamus Blackley, a 32-year-old red-haired jazz pianist and nuclear physicist. To quote him: "I was flying back from visiting [my girlfriend] and I had just got a new laptop and I was trying it out on the plane and I was thinking about graphics cards and I realized that we could make a machine that had much higher performance than anything else in the industry." Yeah, it's called PC dumb***. Real revolutionary idea. Take existing hardware, throw it together in a big clunky box and call it a console. Everything about the system reeks of poor design. Rather than getting a hand full of the most talented game developers in the world (here's a hint: YOU WON'T FIND THEM MAKING PC TITLES IN THE US *******--GO TO JAPAN) and designing a system around the games from the ground up, Blackley comes along with an unlimited supply of stupid ideas about the gaming industry and designs a system that he himself admitted to being "little more than exposed cards with processors and graphics chips hooked to a monitor." No ****? I couldn't tell from how HUGE the case is. It's almost as if it was thrown together with pieces bought off of a store shelf--oh wait. What more, once he senses the impending fizzle of the launch, he bails from the company to work someplace else--where he'll inevitably spawn more stupid ideas.

    2. The games suck.
    It's been almost one full year since the launch of the Xbox and so far the only game that doesn't suck as much as everything else on the system is Halo. Everything else is either out on another console, mediocre or a boring PC port. Even Halo doesn't cut it as far as I'm concerned. The first person shooter (FPS) genre is best done on PC, period (just because some genres have been represented best on PC doesn't mean I'm biased towards PC, if anything I'm biased towards consoles so quit emailing me). As good as Halo is, it's not even the best in its genre (an honor reserved for Half Life as far as I'm concerned). The Xbox library of games is flooded with **** titles like "Azurik": games that seem more like projects for computer science majors in their senior year at college than professional products. I would rather be shot than have to play one more uninspired ho-hum platform title starring some stupid cat or some random guy that runs around bumping into other vague uninspired objects. Throw that **** away.

    Here are some examples of the bull**** games on the Xbox:

    Max Payne - Wait, so not only do I lose the ability to adjust my resolution and system specs to improve performance, but I get a game that's been out for months on PC already? Where do I sign? The game's not too bad, but why bother with it on Xbox when it's on PC already?

    Nightcaster - How original, a rushed third-person RPG title with four magic types: light, dark, fire and water. But wait, here's where the strategy comes in: use water against fire, light against dark enemies, etc. Brilliant.

    Blood Wake - I liked this game better when it was called Twisted Metal and you drove cars instead of boats. Unoriginal, uninspired.

    Azurik: Rise of Perathia - Would have been more aptly titled "Azurik: Onset of Paralysis." Bad gameplay, poor camera, muddy textures, lame characters. Does the fun ever start?

    Star Wars: Obi-Wan - More like "Star Wars: Obi-Wanna-Play-A-Different-Game." Poor AI, poor controls, boring environments. Any non-geeks care to play this? Doubtful.

    Bruce Lee: Quest of the Dragon - Broken gameplay, bad camera work, cheesy voice acting, and the game crashes. All this crap for just $50? It's a win/win situation for publishers: put a lackluster effort into development and make boat-loads of cash off of suck-er.. customers.

    Sure, every console has its share of ****ty games but the Xbox has a disproportionately higher percentage of them. In fact, I think only the N64 rivals the Xbox in the ****ty to good title ratio. When all is said and done, it doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks about the games, the fact is that the games just aren't selling. All you cry-baby, whining, sniveling *****es can stop emailing me with "HAY MADDOX YOU IDIOT YOU DIDN'T MENTION DEAD TO RIGHTS LOL!!!" Because here are some cold hard facts:

    For the entire month of July, only 2 games made it into the top 20 highest sellers (based on units sold), and only 1 in the top 10: Halo at #10 and NCAA Football 2003 at #11. For the month of June, only 3 games made it into the top 20, with only 2 in the top 10. Same for the month of May 2002, and only one in the top 10 in the month of April 2002. Even when the Xbox newly launched, their best month ever has only yielded 4 games in the top 20 with only 2 in the top 10, and don't even bother looking at Japan's stats where the Wonder Swan system is outselling most Xbox games (Source: NPD TRSTS Video Game Service). Compare this to Sony's healthy 15 titles and you can see the big picture. I don't favor Sony's platforms, but these are facts. Any other systems sell this poorly in recent memory? Oh yeah, the Dreamcast and where is the DC now? The DC was by far my favorite system in its prime, but the only difference between me and all you whining Xbox ******* is that I can see the same thing happening here. It doesn't matter how good anyone thinks the games are, because they're just not selling which should tell you dumb***es something. That's not to say that good games always sell, but there's no excuse for Microsoft to have this kind of ****-poor performance because they have all the marketing muscle in the world to make it happen and they're screwing it up.

    3. The controller is almost as big as my nuts.
    This has to be by far the ****tiest controller packed with a home console ever. What were they thinking? Over 25% of the surface area on the controller is wasted by a giant green Xbox jewel--you know, in case you forget what system you're playing in between loading screens. You can seriously drop the controller onto a cat from 5 feet and break its back... so I've heard.

    What Microsoft should have done was team up with Sega to buy all their unsold Dreamcasts and just use them as controllers for the Xbox. It probably would have been smaller than the 8 lb atrocity that they have now.

    4. People who own the Xbox don't play video games.
    The average Xbox owner attends Microsoft SQL Server release parties, reads books on database theory and hates games like Super Mario because they're too old for "kiddie" games since everyone knows that it's graphics, not game play that makes a great game. I mean, why play a game that's actually fun when you can waste hours watching rendered, uninteractive intros instead? Ask the typical Xbox owner what other video games or consoles he likes and you'll draw a blank stare. The reason they bought an Xbox was because it's by Microsoft and they're blindly devoted to the company, not because of the games (being as there aren't any).

    5. No Soul.
    You'll never see games like Metal Slug, Radiant Silvergun or Castlevania come out for the Xbox because Microsoft hasn't made the system attractive to the Japanese market. Capcom, Konami, SNK and a slew of other big game developers have turned their backs towards the Xbox except for a cursory presence with a half-hearted title port. There is light at the end of the tunnel, however. Sega is working on a Panzer Dragoon title as well as Toe Jam & Earl III. Regardless, the Xbox is still a PC at heart, right down to the hard drive and buggy software.

    6. ****ty philosophy.
    Blackley thought he had the formula for a great system because all the components were there for a great system (and they are): a powerful graphics chip, a beefy hard drive, a fast processor and DVD capabilities. What he failed to realize was that just because you have all the raw material to make a great system doesn't mean it's going to be great. Saying the Xbox is a good system because it's powerful is like saying you made a great painting because you used the best set of paints.

    The Xbox is designed by people who think they know a joystick from their ***holes. The problem is that they're mostly fat white business men and not gamers. They're out to make a buck and it's painfully obvious in how poorly they're marketing the system (I think they've cornered the market on middle-aged men who buy one or two sports titles per year for their system).

    7. Too expensive.
    The last figures I heard were that Microsoft was eating $150 on every Xbox sale because they had hoped to subsidize the hardware cost with software sales. Too bad that all their software is ****, otherwise their plan might have worked. Unfortunately, Microsoft has deep pockets so we'll probably have to endure a couple more years of mediocre Xbox titles until Microsoft's share holders decide they've had enough. Don't buy an Xbox. Or if you do, wait until something worth buying comes out for it first.

    For all you inevitably offended Xbox owners and developers, quit *****ing. I'm not hell bent on the ruin of the Xbox, and I'll eventually buy one, but not until some 'decent' **** comes out for it (ie, more than one game worth purchasing). The point of this article is that there are a lot of dumb ****s out there who buy systems out of blind devotion to the company rather than the games.

    A lot of people email me asking which console I prefer. The console I prefer is the console with the most games that I want to play, and right now Gameboy Advance and PS2 have the most games that I want to play.

    biased ******** still love their Xbox despite the fact that everything out for the system is ****.

    Link deleted - for the 2nd time. Once more and it will result in being banned

    Let me know if i missed any bad words
  18. Jewelzz

    Jewelzz OSNN Godlike Veteran

    Well thanx for that ManInCamo. As for you question about this being 3rd grade...no but we do cater to all age groups. We don't like anything to be posted that could/will offend anyone. If you read the guidelines, it clearly states that. It also clearly states that as a moderator I have the right to delete any post or thread I feel is inapproprate, without explaining the reason for my actions.
    If you or any other member feels that a post/thread/link was removed unjustly, PM the mod that handled it instead of laundering the dirt in public.
  19. Angst

    Angst Guest

    Just to add my 2 cents. I love the controllers. I have large hands. PS2 controllers constantly cramp my hands up. If you have large hands, then the X-box controller is superior to all (except Dreamcast) controllers. :p
  20. SPeedY_B

    SPeedY_B I may actually be insane.

    Midlands, England
    Got that right ^_^
    Dreamcast owns all :D