Windows Vista upgrade

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  1. zapoqx

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    Windows Vista upgrade (Answered)

    Hey all,
    Its been a while, but I finally had time to glance through a few things. I wanted to know something.

    I have Windows XP and Vista Business Edition. If I was to buy an upgrade Vista to Ultimate edition, would it try to upgrade the business edition or Windows XP?

    I just kind of wanted to know about that. Thanks!

    EDIT: Topic Answered.
     
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  2. ming

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    It depends which system you are installing it on... I'm assuming you run both vista and XP on 1 machine.
    You'll need to have the one you want to upgrade running when you put the upgrade disk in.
     
  3. zapoqx

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    ok. So if I put in the upgrade when I'm logged into Vista, it should upgrade JUST that. What will happen though in case of reinstall? Do I put in the upgrade's key or the business edition key?
     
  4. ming

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    Yes, if you are running vista business and you throw in the upgrade cd, then it will allow you to upgrade business to ultimate. BUT you don't want to do that coz there's no real benefit. Business and ultimate have similar features.
     
  5. roirraW "edor" ehT

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    Maybe he wants Media Center? Business doesn't have that.
     
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    And the really good news is that under the Ultimate liscence once Ultimate is in you can replace it with XP for free. :) Couldn't resist...
     
  7. zapoqx

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    Well media center would be nice since I'm going to upgrade my TV Tuner to something that can handle Vista (I don't know why, but my current one can't seem to understand the audio I have in).
    But back to the question at hand, so if say something happens that I need to re-install from scratch, would I put in the business key initially or the ultimate key?
     
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  8. roirraW "edor" ehT

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    I recommend Hauppauge TV tuners.

    Sorry I don't know the answer to your question exactly, but see this (how to use the upgrade version of Vista to upgrade itself, which involves a clean install):

     
  9. zapoqx

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    Alright, well in basics more simpler terms....

    Say if something was to happen and there was alot of issues that to me it would be better to format and re-install Vista from scratch.

    When the Serial key input comes in, would I choose Ultimate edition and put in the ultimate edition upgrade key or would I put in business edition, the business edition key, and then use the ultimate edition upgrade key after I get in?

    That's what I mean.

    And thanks for the suggesstion on the TV Tuner. If you know, would their tuners have small lag or not on game consoles connected to it? (sometimes, I might need to make recordings for people or will be doing tournament recordings).
     
  10. roirraW "edor" ehT

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    Trimming down the 11 steps I quoted, you wouldn't have to use your Business Edition or Business serial ever again. You could install the Ultimate Upgrade edition without a serial, and then install it once more as an upgrade to itself with the Ultimate serial you were provided. Vista installs are much faster than XPs. Takes 15-20 minutes on a modern machine, even if not set to unattended.

    If you preferred to for some reason, yes you could reinstall your Business edition using your Business serial and then use the Ultimate Upgrade to upgrade it with the Ultimate serial.

    You're welcome. As far as I've noticed (when I've captured from external source using VCR, which would apply to capturing from any external source including game consoles), yes there's a lag of perhaps a few seconds as it encodes the video and audio on the fly, but it probably fills a buffer first before it gets started.

    You would have to split the audio and video out from the console, one set to go to the external input of the TV tuner, and the other to another TV/monitor where you could watch what you're doing in real time.

    Of course I don't know if every single model of Hauppauge TV tuners have the same amount of lag. I would expect this in all TV tuners.

    Whatever TV tuner you buy, one very important thing I learned by experience. Make sure it does hardware MPEG2 encoding. Otherwise, whenever it's recording it will really slow down your computer since it would then be using software encoding, draining your CPU cycles. Even if you wouldn't have it doing anything but recording TV, it can make a huge difference in the performance of the recording itself as well.

    As a plus, keep in mind whether you would think it would be nice for your TV tuner to also have hardware MPEG4 or other encoding as well, but right now MPEG2 is still the most important. I believe Media Center either requires hardware MPEG2 encoding or very much encourages it, anyway.

    If a tuner's description doesn't mention hardware MPEG2 encoding, don't assume it has it. My first tuner didn't have it and after two months fooling with it and getting crappy performance, I took it back and bought my well-worth it Hauppauge model (in my case a WinTV PVR-USB2, but right now I'd probably look for a PCI-Express model).
     
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    That helps alot more. Thanks!
    Oh and thanks for the info on the TV Tuner. I knew somewhat about the hardware encoding, but didn't know the rest. That is rather helpful. Too bad I can't get that PCI-Express x1 since my huge ass HD 2900XT almost covers the X1 slot. That being said, the TV Tuner would get hot REALLY fast if I managed to somehow force it to sit with no space in between the video card and the TV Tuner. Curse the built size.

    Anyways, thanks again.
     
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  12. roirraW "edor" ehT

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    Heh. Yeah, it sucks when slots can't be used.

    The reason I bought my USB model is that I knew PCI Express was coming out and I wasn't sure how long regular PCI would be around. I guess one of the plus sides of that is that the additional heat is outside the computer. The negative side is that it's one more AC-DC transformer I have to keep plugged in. AC-DC transformers suck energy even when the device their plugged into are turned off or not in use.

    Probably negligible, but it bothers me anyway. I hate batteries, too. :)
     
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