user ID and password?

Discussion in 'Windows Desktop Systems' started by dadecamp, Aug 26, 2003.

  1. dadecamp

    dadecamp under worked, over paid

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    I just upgraded a mobo on a computer in a home network. The internet sharing works fine but when trying to open files on one of the workgroup computers a window opens asking for a user ID and password. The files and drives are "shared".

    How do I get rid of that?
     
  2. j79zlr

    j79zlr Glaanies script monkey Political User

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    you need to have identical user accounts with identical passwords on both machines.
     
  3. dadecamp

    dadecamp under worked, over paid

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    A little more info:

    System 1 - internet modem computer win XP Pro
    System 2 - sons PC win XP Pro
    system 3 - daughters PC win 98

    From system 1 I can get into all shared files on system 2 & 3 and do not have user account on either PC

    From system 2 I get internet access but get the log on screen.

    I had this set up before changing mobo's and reloading XP on system 1. The user accounts were the same before this and didn't get the log on screen before.

    Is this a protocal thing?
     
  4. j79zlr

    j79zlr Glaanies script monkey Political User

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    no, it is how sharing with NT works. Create a user on the 98 box that is identical to a user on both of the XP Pro boxes. Disable simple file sharing. That should be it. You can have the 98 and/or XP boxes autologon, just give them usernames with passwords; NT or XP uses user-level access, whereas DOS or 9x windows systems use share-level access.
     
  5. LeeJend

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    I don't get a log in box when I boot XP. I used to, and disabled it without doing an auto login. Don't ask me how, it was last Sept. and I forgot. It is possible though.

    (Yes, 11 months without a re-install and no quirks or bugs. Trying for 1 year. Yes, I do download all kinds of crap programs off the web but XP lets me get rid of them with no residue. I'd say something nice about M$ but I'm afraid I'd turn to stone or something.)
     
  6. j79zlr

    j79zlr Glaanies script monkey Political User

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    not at logon, when accessing a share

    If you have only one user and do not set a password, XP will autologon automatically at startup
     
  7. dadecamp

    dadecamp under worked, over paid

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    networkless in Arizona!!!

    :confused: I have tried everything I can think of and those that were suggested here. But I can't see my main computer from my sons or my daughters via the network.
    They can connect to the internet through mine with the share internet connection settings. I can see their files on their computers from my PC albeit slow (network hang time when clicking on "Computers near you").
    I've set up accounts on both computers with same user ID's (even though I did not need to do this before XP reload).
    I also have a problem with "System Restore". It gives me a error every time I try to use it that says "System restore is not able to protect your computer at this time. Restart your computer and try again" or something along those lines.
    Maybe I just need to do a format and clean reload again, unless some one here comes up with an answer soon I will do that this weekend.
     
  8. j79zlr

    j79zlr Glaanies script monkey Political User

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    nah, no need for a reformat (at least not from the problems you describe)

    The slow network bowsing can be fixed with the reg patch at my site Click Me

    We can start from the beginning:

    Do you have all of the computers in the same workgrounp?
    (Right click My Computer, Properties, Computer name tab)

    Does each pc have a unique name in the same place?
    (I E Pc1 PC2, or Office, Main, Basement, etc.,)

    How are IPs configured?
    (If you didn't do anything, the router is assigning them via DHCP, that is fine.)

    Can you ping the other computers?
    (Start, Run ping 192.168.1.100) need the IPs of your networked computers.

    Can you access shares with UNC path?
    (Start, run \\networkedPCname

    Post what the command, arp -a from the command line displays.
    (This should show every computer in your network.)
     
  9. dadecamp

    dadecamp under worked, over paid

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    I can start with what I know now (I'm a work and not currently by the computers) I will post the rest in the morning.

    Thanks.

    Do you have all of the computers in the same workgrounp?
    (Right click My Computer, Properties, Computer name tab)
    Yes, the same workgroup name an each computer.

    Does each pc have a unique name in the same place?
    (I E Pc1 PC2, or Office, Main, Basement, etc.,)
    Yes, dad1 (for mine) and their first names for their pc name.

    How are IPs configured?
    (If you didn't do anything, the router is assigning them via DHCP, that is fine.)
    I'm using a hub (still have dial-up) and use my computer as internet sharer. I use 192-168-1-1 for mine, 192-168-1-2 for sons and 192-168-1-3 for daughters.

    Can you ping the other computers?
    (Start, Run ping 192.168.1.100) need the IPs of your networked computers.

    Can you access shares with UNC path?
    (Start, run \\networkedPCname

    Post what the command, arp -a from the command line displays.
    (This should show every computer in your network
     
  10. j79zlr

    j79zlr Glaanies script monkey Political User

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    ok, so you have 2 NICs in your PC and using it as an internet gateway?
     
  11. j79zlr

    j79zlr Glaanies script monkey Political User

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    oops, dialup, only one NIC.

    Ok, so far, looks good.

    Did you add the usernames WITH passwords to the XP boxes?

    Once you get home, ping will tell you if they are physically connected, then using the UNC path can help see if they are there. The My Network Places (or similar) is not always good with picking up Computers in the network.
     
  12. dadecamp

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    well, er, no. I have not added passwords to their accounts on the xp boxes. Never needed them before but will add later, I hope. (just got word from home that a large thunderstorm knocked out my power and only in my house. Hope it isn't anything to bad.)
    Will pinging tell us anything? They are able to share the internet connection, just not files.
     
  13. j79zlr

    j79zlr Glaanies script monkey Political User

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    if you are sharing the internet fine, then ping is redundant, that would just show if there is a physical connection, ie it can hit 192.168.1.2 and send response.

    I'm thinking that it is user accounts from all the info so far. If you wanna test the user accounts thingy first, just add your user account name with a password (the password thing is important, XP doesn't like sharing without a password) to all 3 PC's then you should be able to access all shares on all PC's.
     
  14. Admiral Michael

    Admiral Michael Michaelsoft Systems CEO Folding Team

    Under the properties for the LAN connection, make sure that "Enable IEEE 802.1x authencation for this nework" is undchecked under the authencation tab.

    to get this dialogue goto Control Panel>Network Connections,
    right click on the LAN connections and select properties. DO this for the internet gateway and your son's computer.
     
  15. dadecamp

    dadecamp under worked, over paid

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    Admiral,
    Unfortunately, I've already done that.
    Thanks anyway. Any other ideas?
     
  16. Admiral Michael

    Admiral Michael Michaelsoft Systems CEO Folding Team

    hmm, I ve had no probs networking computers. 3 run XP pro and one runs 98SE. Very Interesting. Try pinging the others computers. O n my network, each computer does not need the same set of usernames.
     
  17. Admiral Michael

    Admiral Michael Michaelsoft Systems CEO Folding Team

    Oh, are you trying to network via TCP/IP? If so you need to enalbe NetBIOS over TCP/IP.

    OPen TCP/IP properties, click advanced. WINS Tab.... select "Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP".
     
  18. j79zlr

    j79zlr Glaanies script monkey Political User

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    Missed that one.

    BTW you should have passwords on shares with XP. You really shouldn't use simple file sharing, unsecure, even on a home network. You can get it to work without usernames/passwords, but it doesn't always, by using them, I know I can get it to work, and you can always set autologon if you feel the need.
     
  19. dadecamp

    dadecamp under worked, over paid

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    You guys are GREAT!!

    I added passwords to the accounts.
    Enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP
    Installed j79zlr's reg edit.

    Everything works as before.:D :D :D

    Life is good again

    Thanks again,

    Dave