Ok. I've been building computers for close to 12 years now. Much of the configurations I've built were based on advice from sites like tomshardware, sharkyextreme, firingsquad, hardocp, etc.. and recently, I was actually able to test an article [tomshardware] wrote. And from my independent tests, I have found that they are full of bull****, blah blah blah rant rant rant.. I wrote them an email concerning this, and SURPRISE!! no response. I was wondering if anyone else had problems with innacurate articles from hardware review sites. Anyways... on to my story. If you read on tomshardware.com (motherboards section.. overclocking: 875 = 7205 + X. http://www20.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030429/index.html You will find that [toms] claims that the Asus P4G8X mobo (granite bay, 7205 chipset) is capable or running at 800Mhz fsb. They even have screenshots of this. They claim that it will not only WORK... but that it works on STOCK parts. Well.. this is where they are full of ****. It doesn't work. Last Christmas, I purchased a shiney new asus mobo (p4g8x) and with the intent of upgrading the CPU, bought fast ram. Really fast ram. (Kingston blah blah..) Check my sig.... you can see the system I bought. As you obviously can tell, this all runs at 533fsb with the possibility of running much faster. According to toms, they pushed my system (with mega cooling) to 4.1Ghz stable - so they claim... who's going to argue??? I just bought a 3.0c to see if it would work in my system. Of COURSE it does... just not at 800fsb.. (from now on, i'll state teh true fsb... not this quad crap intel uses... 200Mhz fsb = 800fsb quad) Well, i've done some serious overclocking in my past (remember the old cels??) and as such, I have some know-how on overclocking the fsb (and tweaking the mem timings.). Anyways. the FASTEST the system will RUN, even if for a short time. is ~178. The FASTEST the sytem will Boot (not completely to windows though...) is ~194. And the kicker is that i swapped the cooler on my northbridge from passive to active. I even followed the steps THEY used... (after my own testing of course ) UGH... at least I was able to sell the 3.0c cpu. Any others call the bluff on some of these sites??? OT: That ram acutally will run at 1.5... I couldn't figure out why about 2-5 times/month my games would crash (mostly Diablo 2) - found out I had tweaked my ram to 1.5 and forgot to change it back... now at 2.0, everything runs fine. no crashes yet..