I was mooching around the user CP looking to see if reps I had dished out were added (this was discussed once, looks like not implemented though) when I noticed there seems to be an option to pay a sub of ten bucks for a year of advert freedom from front page! Does this money go to OSNN? Is it preferable to the ad clicking that is sometimes talked of for revenue purposes? Is it even active for OSNN? and does the subs only apply to OSNN, or is this a vBulletin thing? I would seriously consider it - be nice to be able to have a trial panel to sample the effect though, maybe? And were I back in dial up hell I would not even be typing this - I would have tried my damndest to shell out already! Look forward to hearing what you may have to say EP - see you are on the forums ATM and hoping this might catch your eye.