okay, i don't have any experience with permissions. i've been given the job of reformatting someone's computer that's fubar'd by viruses. most i've gotten rid of, but some i can't and many system files are beyond help. anyway, i have to retrieve a folder of all of the stuff she wants to keep off of the harddrive, but i can't access it unless i sign in as her on the infected comp. right now i am in safe mode on her computer, but it's seriously copying one picture every 2 seconds which means it will take a day or so. i would like to be able to remove the hd and plug it into another comp and scan/move files that way which would be safer and MUCH faster. any tips? PS. oh yeah, and explorer keeps crashing, so i have to babysit it and resume the folder moving. i NEED to do this on another comp.