service pack 2 product key

Discussion in 'Windows Desktop Systems' started by randmdavis, Sep 1, 2004.

  1. randmdavis

    randmdavis OSNN Junior Addict

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    whats the deal with microsoft changing the product key when you install service pack 2?
     
  2. Steevo

    Steevo Spammer representing. Political User Folding Team

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    /leaves to look
     
  3. Tittles

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    is your copy legit cause maybe they for somereason changed it? unno...they didnt changed mine.
     
  4. Hipster Doofus

    Hipster Doofus Good grief Charlie Brown

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    No problems with keys here. Used the same one. If yours is legit give microsoft a call to sort it out.
     
  5. randmdavis

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    let me know what you find out when you come back. I tried this several times and it does it every time. whats microsoft up too?
     
  6. Electronic Punk

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    SP2 installed here (as did all the betas) without prompting me for a key.
    Could depend on the version as I didn't get to try Retail or OEM versions (company select here).
     
  7. Lee

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    Well I have xp pro upgrade and also oem home and neither had their key(s) changed.
     
  8. Dennis T

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    My main legit copy of XP-Pro had no problems with keys. A second version on another "test partition" did. Its a Retail version using Reset5.01. Asked me to re-enter key and re-activate. No probs, just use it for testing out new proggys etc. Had to "update" to a corp version, then all was Ok.
     
  9. Sazar

    Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Staff Member Political User Folding Team

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    no problem with keys here...

    2 copies... xp pro on main system, xp home on laptop...
     
  10. Xie

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    I would have to say if your copy is legit a service pack shouldn't care about your key and shouldn't ask anything about one. Installed w/out any talk of keys here.
     
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    I haven't downloaded or installed it yet
     
  12. Kush

    Kush High On Life!

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    what do u mean changed the product key, it doesnt change it, it checks to see that u have a legit copy, which u just proved u dont
     
  13. ming

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    lol... couldn't agree more. :p
     
  14. randmdavis

    randmdavis OSNN Junior Addict

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    product key change

    themafia69,I didn't get on here to talk to a smart ***, but to ask a question and to answer yours my copy of XP Pro is legit thank you.
     
  15. randmdavis

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    electronic punk: have no problems loading my legit copy of xp pro. when I downloaded sp2 i was just fooling around and found that my product key number had been changed and I was curious if it had happened to anyone else. I don't like the idea of someone changing anything in my computer but me. thanks
     
  16. dave holbon

    dave holbon Moderator

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    Yes I was wondering about this as product keys (as printed on the XP genuine CD’s) are only used to generate machine ID’s (using your own hardware) which are then used to activate windows. There are many instances that I’ve come across where the supplied genuine product key has generated an invalid machine ID which has resulted in a call to MS support. This only happened the day before yesterday which the Microsoft engineer could not resolve and resulted in a complete re-install over the existing version which then generated the correct machine ID and hence the activation code supplied by MS worked. This is a known problem with the algorithm used to generate the machine ID and hence the unique activation code from the MS servers which are issued one after the other and combine to provide your computer with a unique digitally signed ID that can never be duplicated, hmmm........

    As a result of this ongoing problem I always use the same XP CD to install XP on a new machine and then, using the genuine CD number, change the product ID by selecting “activate by phone” and then activate it over the net. This means that you can script the entire installation with the same product ID for all machines. The trap is that if you allow the 30 day period to expire, any attempt to (correctly) change the CD product key sometimes results in an incorrect Machine ID being generated which you can then not activate. This has happened to me on more then two occasions since service pack one but not after two (so far).

    There are/were known problems with the ms servers giving out ID’s that were duplicates but this has more to do with record locking (SQL server errors) than actual errors, so to speak. As far as I am aware the problem was solved by only having one central cluster of servers issuing activation codes sequentially which combined with your machine ID (which was generated by your product ID in conjunction with a small algorithm run against your hardware) and a small algorithm to generate the signed ID which as you know can be invalidated by various alterations to your hardware various parts carry various “weights” in this scenario.

    This was supposed to isolate CD product keys, machine ID’s (obtained locally by your copy of XP) from activation codes which are all obtained by computation and combined by ms servers unique issue of it’s next number complete with check digits which is recorded only on their servers and then transmitted back to your machine using signed ID’s which you version of XP installed on your machine checks for validity.

    This is not an infallible process when millions of transactions are involved but it has been addressed in service pack two as all is ignored correct or not.

    Well that’s one way of doing it!

    :) :) :)
     
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  17. toretto

    toretto Mentally Absent

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    all four of these running pro had no problems with keys
     
  18. randmdavis

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    dave holbon-
    thanks a lot for the help. As i said i had put my legit copy of pro in the machine with no problems and then I put in sp2 and still having no problems. However I was just tooling around in the system and found that the product key had been changed. Again thanks for the help.

    randmdavis
     
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  20. david2436

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    During installation, mine just seems to stop on 'Checking Product Key' and then freezes. I've checked my key, and is legitimate, but there is no eror, it just stops.
    Help.