RIAA, KaZaA, File-Sharing

Discussion in 'Windows Desktop Systems' started by Prisonnet, Feb 9, 2003.

  1. Prisonnet

    Prisonnet Guest

    File Sharing will only get bigger. Even if the RIAA and everyone wins, KaZaA gets shut down, file sharing will only become more widespread. A few years ago, there was only Napster for file sharing (besides IRC, which is always a constant.). Napster provided support for the infinite download of infinite mp3s by infinite users. When it was shut down, many people thought the world was going to end. But, from Napster's fall, new powers arose. KaZaA and others ensure a stronger base for file sharing. Even if KaZaA meets its end, others will spawn, bigger and superior. This is a trend that no law can hope to stop. There are already millions of users breaking the law, most not knowing about it. The sharing of copyrighted materials is already illegal, but the issue is that no one cares. My parents, grandparents, cousins, aunts, uncles, friends all download and share music and movies, most unaware the illegitimacy of what they're doing. As long as there are people who don't want to spend money on music, movies, or games, file sharing will exist. No law can hope to deter the will of the motivated public to share files. The RIAA might as well concede defeat, as there is absolutly nothing it can do, or any organization for that matter, can do about the sharing of copyrighted materials. Let's consider a contingency for a moment. Say the RIAA decided to stop going after the source, and made an example by arresting or fining some of the people who utilize these tools. That will only serve to lower the public image of the RIAA (as if it could get any lower), effectively making the public more upset, which would definatly not help CD sales. Artists like Metallica, who have previously sued Napster, will not help themselves by doing so. Instead, they must focus on the drawbacks of file sharing. Namely, quality, and the time it takes to download. If the music industry started a campaign, advertising that they arn't going to do anything about file sharing, but stating that, by buying CDs, there is less hassle involved, and a greater quality of the music. That, coupled with lower CD prices, is the only way to increase CD sales. The main reason why CD sales arn't 0, or close to such, is that the majority of people don't have the facilities, such as broadband, to download music at an acceptable speed. Even at an acceptable 192 kb/sec, the average song would be 5 mb. For the dialup user, that would take about 20 minutes to download. Assuming there are 20 songs on each CD, that's about 7 hours of constant downloading, for audio that isn't perfect. For that user, it is better to just buy the CD. If broadband becomes more widespread (which it is becoming rapidly.), and CD tracks are ripped with the newer formats, such as OGG and AAC, allowing higher quality at lower file sizes, then there would be very little reason to purchase CDs. MP3 players, for example, are as the name suggests, designed to play MP3 files. But the majority of MP3 files originate from file sharing programs, not legal CD purchasing. The spawn and growth in popularity of MP3 players further helps to make the download and sharing of music more widespread, altough the companies that produce these wonderful little devices insist that they arn't designed to utilize MP3s shared from file sharing programs, but rather those encoded from legally purchased CDs.

    Basically, the point I'm making is that no matter how many file sharing programs are shut down, no matter how many laws are made preventing the creation and sharing of copyrighted material, music downloading will always be here. The music industry better get used to it, because they won't win.
     
  2. ZAnwar

    ZAnwar Guest

    Yeah no doubt, I bet you Kazaa (lite) will never die!!!!!!!
     
  3. SPeedY_B

    SPeedY_B I may actually be insane.

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    Just like people said Napster will never die. ;)
     
  4. melon

    melon MS-DOS 2.0 Political User

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    Unless they get the ISPs to monitor traffic and start prosecuting P2P users.

    Remember: as "anonymous" as we think we are, much of the internet travels through some very central computers, and all it takes is for these computers to be monitored and P2P sharing is ****ed, no matter who you are or where you are.

    Melon
     
  5. WAM

    WAM Guest

    Ever since the advent of the compact cassette people have been able to record music on a large scale. The internet and audio compression has allowed this to become massive.

    Fact is if you couldnt do it you wouldnt. Technically even playing your own cd unwittingly in public is a breach of piracy laws. How far do you go? Its too late for recording companies to start complaining now when they lost out in the early 1970's !

    The only difference now is that music is so much cheaper to produce now than ever before, and yet all the large labels churn out crap...........and they wonder about falling sales. If there is something worth getting and the price is right I can bet most people would sooner havethe original ......

    Recording industry has only itself to blame...and they arent exactly the poorest people on this earth.

    Finally i'd like to say that file sharing is also better for the environment....think about it! ;)
     
  6. gonaads

    gonaads Beware the G-Man Political User Folding Team

    Prisonnet... Hmmmmmm, sounds like an IRC thing :rolleyes: Hmmmmmm. :D

    How many other Forum Sites ya post this at??? :confused: :cool:
     
  7. Prisonnet

    Prisonnet Guest

    Only this and at my own site, which is currently having massive errors. It should be back up around March, as I have to reprogram everything and don't have the time. I am frequently on IRC. I'm even on it now.
     
  8. ZAnwar

    ZAnwar Guest

    Yeah but Napster was being sued from all corners, companies ain't even completed a suing case even once on Kazaa.
     
  9. Prisonnet

    Prisonnet Guest

    That's because companies are having a harder time getting KaZaA. Napster stored a list of all its files on their own servers, and as a result were responsible. Since KaZaA does it a different way, companies are having a harder time proving the illigitimacy of what KaZaA is doing.
     
  10. ZAnwar

    ZAnwar Guest

    Yeah Exactly!

    That is why Kazaa will never die!
     
  11. Kr0m

    Kr0m Moderator

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    How do newsgroups work? I know with my ISP if I wanted to I could get anything from their newsgroup server. The newsgroup service has been around long before these P2P programs and yet ISPs still let users access these warez, porn, music newsgroups. ISPs could stop a lot if they choose to. They don't, why? I see people all the time on my Rogers newsgroups requesting certain group names be added so they could access them.
     
  12. Iceman

    Iceman Moderator

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    That ain't exactly true, Kazaa is based out of Australia, the RIAA is of coursed based in the United States, as well as Hollywood and the majority of software manufactures, so there was a problem with jurisdiction.

    That is no longer the case, a Federal Judge in California a couple weeks ago ruled that they could sue Kazaa in California, so the case is now in California. It is the beginning of the end for Kazaa, there is simply no way for them to be able to afford to fight off the lawsuit. Will it be the end of file-sharing programs? no, others will of course jump in the void. As they did when Napster crashed and burned.

    But to say Kazaa will never go down is not facing reality.

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  13. Prisonnet

    Prisonnet Guest

    Exactly.
    Everything dies, and there is always a replacement. KaZaA will definitally meet its end, but the concern is when, not if.