Resolution question

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by homesick1337, Apr 20, 2004.

  1. homesick1337

    homesick1337 Computer Lover

    Honolulu, Hawaii
    Currently I own a Radeon 9800 pro 256 mb version and a 21inch sony monitor.

    I run my resolution at 2048x1536. I love this setting and things seem clear.

    When I play a lot of my games they don't go past 1600x

    Only a few support my resolution setting like Counter Strike Condition Zero, and Battlefeild. I hate playing at any resolution lower because my monitor has black bars on the side of them where the screen would normally be viewable.

    Now my question

    1. What exactly does resolution do?
    2. Why dont games support the resolution I run at?
    3. How come the higher the resolution the less FPS i get in games like UT 2004, I average around 40 FPS?
    4. What is the monitor refresh rate and how does it affect my game? I currently have a 60 hz refresh for my resolution.

    Thank You,
  2. muzikool

    muzikool Act your wage. Political User

    Hello again. ;)

    *You should PM a mod and ask to have this thread moved to a more appropriate Forum... probably hardware.*

    Resolution indicates the dots per inch (DPI) on your monitor. The more dots in an inch, the more pixels on the screen, and the higher the resolution.

    Video games are optimized to work at certain settings. You will need to change your settings to what is recommended by the game in order to get the best experience out of the game. You lose frames if you exceed the recommended resolution because the game wasn't made for that high of a resolution.

    Refresh Rate is how many times per second the monitor redraws the display. The faster your refresh rate is, the less flicker you will get from the monitor. I would set your monitor to 75HZ minimum, which is recommended for displays above 640x480.
  3. NetRyder

    NetRyder Tech Junkie Folding Team

    New York City
    Done. [​IMG]
  4. theevilsithlord

    theevilsithlord Hail to the King, Baby!

    Champaign, IL UIUC
    To have specific resolutions for each game, you can use rage 3d to create profiles.

    Also, I'm pretty sure that it will only work with ATI drivers.
  5. ShepsCrook

    ShepsCrook Red Sox Fan!

    1: Resolutions is the number of pixels heigh and width of your computer. The more pixels the smaller your desktop looks, as well as the more pixels used to create that desktop.

    2:The higher the resolution means gaming companies have to put more work in on their graphics and textures, to make everything look nice at that resolution. Plus, the average person doesn't play at those sizes. I only run 1600x1200 on my computer.

    3: The reason why the FPS is lower is because the video card has to do more work straining itself to create all those pixels you have on your screen. More pixels means more work. Less pixels means less work.

    4: Refresh rate is the rate at which pixels are displayed on your screen. I believe the higher the refresh rate the better. Usually you get better rates at lower resolutions. (Someone else might be able to explain this better)
  6. LeeJend

    LeeJend Moderator

    Fort Worth, TX
    Depending on your monitor you can set the size of the black border in the monitor controls.

    Using the monitor menu (buttons on front of the monitor) while playing the game at the max resolution you want adjust the height and width of the image on the screen. If you're lucky one of the menu options will resize both at once. You may need to re-center the image after you do this.

    If when you exit the game the screen image expands beyoind the screen edges you are screwed and your monitor does not remember the settings for eaxh resolution. Resize to support your regular 2048 display and live with the borders.

    Why slower and unsupported?
    2048x1536 = 3,145,728 pixels with a color depth of 32 bits x three color dots.
    1024x768 = 786,432 pixels with a color depth of 32 bits x three color dots.

    i.e. 4 times the data flow is required, so if you get 80 FPS at 1024 you get 20 FPS at 2048.
  7. patrick

    patrick OSNN Addict

    Everyone has done a good job of explaining but since you're asking basic questions I wouldn't be suprised if you're a bit confused by the technical answers people are giving you. I'm going to do my best to reword the answers and add my understanding, hopefully it'll help.

    1. What exactly does resolution do?

    To make up an image on a screen, heaps of tiny little dots are activated in a pattern making up the words and pictures, everything that you see on the screen.
    As other people have said, "resolution" controls the exact amount of dots that are available for your video card to use to produce the image.
    By increasing the resolution, you increase the total number of dots on the screen and decrease the size of each individual dot.
    This as you may have noticed has two side effects: everything on the screen gets a bit smaller, but, you can fit more text, images, icons etc onto the screen.
    By increasing the resolution everything will probably look a bit clearer since the dots (pixels) are a lot smaller. Try using 640×480 (if it'll let you) or 800×600 to see what I mean about having big pixels (look at text and notice how it looks blocky and curves are not smooth but have a staircase effect). Increasing the resolution gets rid of these problems, plus you get the convenience of extra screen space since everything is smaller and you won't end up with a taskbar that takes up half the screen or a dialog box that takes up three quaters of the screen.

    2. Why dont games support the resolution I run at?

    While it is generally much more useful to run your computer at a higher resolution it does demand a lot more work on your video card.
    What you'll find is a lot of older games such as Half-Life were developed at a time when video cards were not capable of running at a very high resolution. Consequencely the game developers did not bother writing support for such higher resolutions because the technology (of the time) did not support it. Almost all of todays newer games are all written with support for these higher resolutions such as 1600 or even higher in games like Call of Duty because high-end video cards such as yours are capable of running these high resolutions smoothly.

    3. How come the higher the resolution the less FPS i get in games like UT 2004, I average around 40 FPS?

    I think this has been explained quite well, but I'll just briefly reilliterate.
    When you increase the resolution, you increase the number of dots that the video card has to produce to make a single frame. Because of this, it takes a lot more processing power to try and produce a single frame at a higher resolution than it does to produce a single frame at a lower resolution.
    The side effect is that less frames can be produced at a higher resolution each second than at a lower resolution, therefore the fps (frames per second) is lower in higher resolutions.
    If you have a good video card then even putting the resolution up to the maximum supported resolution, your card will still be powerful enough to produce enough frames every second to keep the game looking smooth and not like a disjointed picture show. (Generally about 40fps or greater looks smooth)

    4. What is the monitor refresh rate and how does it affect my game? I currently have a 60 hz refresh for my resolution.

    As has been stated, "monitor refresh rate" refers to the amount of times your monitor updates itself every second. You could almost think of it the same way you would the frame rate in a game but in this case the focus it not so much what your video card can handle but what your monitor can handle.
    If you use a slow refresh rate like 60hz then your monitor will basically be flickering like crazy instead of producing a beautiful clean image. You may not notice it but if you stare at a monitor for many hours a day and get used to a higher refresh rate you can really tell when you try and go back to a lower one. I mean I can tell the difference between a monitor running at 60Hz and a monitor running at 75Hz simply by looking at it. It actually becomes quite annoying to stare at a monitor at 60Hz after you're used to a higher refresh rate.
    If you wanna check this out for yourself put up some sort of a white screen on your monitor, a blank notepad window for instance, and stare slightly to the left or right of your monitor, at the wall behind it if there is one. Now looking out of the corner of your eye observe your monitor and try and see if it is "flickering".
    Unfortunately I suspect that by running your monitor at such a high resolution it will be incapable of producing a refresh rate higher than 60Hz. You could always try to increase it though. (Change refresh rate by: Right click desktop > Properties > Settings > Advanced > "Monitor" Tab* - this may be a different tab using ATI). Even if 60Hz is the only thing avaible for you to select in the box then you could try unticking "hide modes this monitor cannot display" since windows may be restricting a setting that your monitor can actually handle. If you do however force a setting that your monitor really cannot handle then you will be presented with a black screen, but don't worry. Don't push anything for 15 seconds and windows will change back the settings to the last settings that worked. No problems.

    Now as to how refresh rate affects your game.
    While it may seem to be fairly easy to change your refresh rate in windows unfortunately these settings do not apply in games. This means that 99% of games will always run in 60Hz regardless of what you set in windows. The flicker problem that I mentioned (with low refresh rates), even if you were able to see it with a white screen, is much less obvious when you try and see it in darker colours. Rarely are there large portions of white in a game so in all honesty refresh rate does not really become annoying in a game. I will state however that if the refresh rate in a game is 60hz, the highest frame rate that your monitor will actually display is 60, regardless that your computer may be telling you your frame is 90 or 150. There are programs which you can run (such as NVRefresh Tool) which can lock the refresh rate inside games so that you can set it to something other than 60hz. By using such a program you would be able to get a decent refresh rate in games (such as 75 or 85) however as I said refresh rate in games is not nearly as big an issue as it is while using the windows environment.
    There are some problems tho, I've noticed compatibility issues when trying to run load a few games, battlefield 1942 for instance wouldn't load properly when I had the NVRefresh Tool enabled. On a side note I would like to point out that in the latest update for Battlefield (v1.6) has actually made Battlefield 1942 the only game I can think of that actually allows you to set the refresh rate in the game (as well as being able to set the resolution). A good move on EA's part.

    So finally if you want to learn a bit more about how the refresh rate works just try experimenting with it. As I said, 60 may be the maximum your monitor can handle at your nice insanely large resolution of 2048x1536. If you really wanna see what the refresh rate does you might wanna kick the resolution down to 1280×960 or something else a bit less than what you've got and try seeing the difference between a refresh rate of 60hz and a refresh rate of 85hz. Try looking for any signs of flickering.

    Anyways I hope this has helped you a bit.