Police Chief is networking dunce and needs help

Discussion in 'Windows Desktop Systems' started by Bytes Back, May 18, 2002.

  1. Bytes Back

    Bytes Back Ex Police Chief

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    Ok, I have two computers with a Realtek RTL8029 card in each.

    One machine is 98 and the other XP. Up to now the network has been fine.

    For whatever reason the machines no longer see each other, The light on both networks cards is off.

    I have tried pinging but get timed out errors.

    I have changed both terminators. and as far as I can see the network cable is ok.

    I have run the network wizard from xp just in case any of the settings were screwed, as far as I can see all the settings are correct. There is no firewall.

    I am going to have a small rebellion soon if the kids can't print out there pictures so any help is appreciated.
     
  2. TheBlueRaja

    TheBlueRaja BR to Some

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    Ok, this IS more than likely a cabling issue, if the lights are off on the cards then the Link is not up (obviously) so at this stage protocols dont mean squalt.

    Are you sure that your cabling is OK, if so then you may have a faulty Network card.

    Do you have anything else you can connect the cards to to see if you get a light?
     
  3. Freakzilla

    Freakzilla OSNN Addict

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    Blue Raja beat me to it. Most certainly a cable or defective network card causing your problem.
     
  4. JJB6486

    JJB6486 Retired Mod Political User

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    Probably a bad cable or NIC card.

    I assume you mean that you put the cable plugs on the ends yourself. Check that the wires are in the right order. Check http://home.attbi.com/~dabomb4097/netguide/ for the correct color codes for straight thru or crossover cable.

    Is it a crossover cable or connected to a hub/swtich?

    JJB6486
     
  5. Bytes Back

    Bytes Back Ex Police Chief

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    BNC connectors :D
     
  6. JJB6486

    JJB6486 Retired Mod Political User

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    *beats Bytes back with a stick*

    Get CAT5 RJ-45. Its better then coax

    JJB6486
     
  7. Bytes Back

    Bytes Back Ex Police Chief

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    *grabs stick off JJb6486 and tries to break it over his knee, Ouch, throws it into nearest bin, considers areesting him and throwing him into cell 1 but remebers its full of the mayors "packages"*

    To be honest I figured it had to be hardware, is there any advantage to RJ45 ?
     
  8. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    *decides not to beat Bytes back with a stick, barely*

    Umm, yes. Less trouble getting the bl***y thing to work. BNC is stone age. I had cable trouble all the time back when I ran BNC (cable loose, cable thinking it's loose, cable seemingly ok but still not bl***y working (and so on)). Get an RJ45 or we won't help you. :p

    Just kidding ;)
     
  9. Bytes Back

    Bytes Back Ex Police Chief

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    All this talk about beatings !! I'll have to call in The punisher with his trout.

    Now before I rush out and buy a new cable I forgot to mention that if I look in the connection box thingy I find that 0 bytes sent and recieved. I know that if I had trouble networking before I would at least have had bytes sent.

    Does this confirm you chaps diagnoses or just put more fuel onto the fire.

    *Bytes spends next hour or so looking for big sticks and hiding them*
     
  10. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    If the lights don't light up, it's cable problems (or card). There aren't any animals (or kids) around who may have bitten off the cable or something? Have you checked if the cable is ok (by measuring it)?

    Aw just buy a new one anyway.
     
  11. Bytes Back

    Bytes Back Ex Police Chief

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    He he, What I haven't told you is the location of the other computer is in my 5 Yr olds bedroom. Now i don't think she would have damaged the cable intentionally but accidents happen.

    Ok, I'll buy a new cable.

    Thanks for the help
     
  12. Bytes Back

    Bytes Back Ex Police Chief

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    Well, pats on the back all round, It was the cable. One nice new RJ 45 cable installed.

    Now, while I was there, I also changed the network cards for a bit a speed boost. It seems to working ok, but in the installation manual it says to install NETBUI for XP. Well I have looked in the add protocols section and it doesn't exist. Do I need to do this and is there any advantage with it.

    Finally, If you have the show icon when connected on, is there anyway of making it a different colour or something so I can tell it apart from my net connection ?
     
  13. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    Yay, we were right! :)
    You don't need it, don't bother.
    Never heard of a way. Not without some kind of extra hack anyway.