Ok, I have two computers with a Realtek RTL8029 card in each. One machine is 98 and the other XP. Up to now the network has been fine. For whatever reason the machines no longer see each other, The light on both networks cards is off. I have tried pinging but get timed out errors. I have changed both terminators. and as far as I can see the network cable is ok. I have run the network wizard from xp just in case any of the settings were screwed, as far as I can see all the settings are correct. There is no firewall. I am going to have a small rebellion soon if the kids can't print out there pictures so any help is appreciated.