[News] Apple Explores Use of Intel Chips

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  1. muzikool

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    :eek:

     
  2. VenomXt

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    it begins.
     
  3. NetRyder

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    I actually heard about this from two people at WinHEC last month. Apparently, there are Intel machines running OS X in Santa Clara already. Not sure where it's heading though. :)

    Porting the OS itself is not a huge problem. The real challenge is getting all those third-party applications ported over as well...and that will need to happen fast. An OS without solid third-party software support is as good as dead.
     
  4. SPeedY_B

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    Apple uses Intel chips in a few of it's machines, there's an Intel controller chip on a few of the ethernet devices for example. iPods run on ARM processors, and AirPort Base stations run on AMD chips... just because Apple is in talks with Intel regarding chips, it doesn't mean CPU's, and if it does, it doesn't mean for Macs.

    Take a look at where IBM are right now with their PowerPC offerings, it would be a pretty silly move to migrate away from them. With that said, Apple seem to have a good track record of completely switching architectures and making everything work.

    Also just to stamp on any suggestions that this would mean OS X on standard x86 hardware, it wouldn't. Were this to go ahead and Apple to suddenly drop IBM in favour of Intel x64 chips, they would be custom chips which would simply remove any compatibility with normal off-the-shelf hardware.

    All in all, it's another rumour (even though this one seems to have spread all over the place pretty-bloody-quick) and nothing will be confirmed until there's a press release and/or absolute solid evidence of anything.

    I think The Register have made a pretty good analysis of the situation here : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/23/apple_intel/
     
  5. muzikool

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    Apparently this has been rumored many times in the past, but it's actually making headlines this time.
     
  6. chastity

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    Well the rumor is been around off and on for a few years but this seems to be a bit more then a rumor given the fact its more mainstream media sites.

    Actually at one point in time I heard Apple already had an x86 version of their OS but it was pretty only used for interal testing I guess. Apple's Darwin project
     
  7. SPeedY_B

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    Darwin is the BSD backend of the OS and is actively ported to the x86 platform.
     
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    I don't see why (I know it's just crazy rumors right now) they would go with Intel x64 chips when AMD is the clear winner right now in the x64 market. Why would you drop something that works to switch to the lesser of another architecture?
     
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  10. SPeedY_B

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    For exactly the same reasons that Dell have stuck with Intel when everyone knows that AMD are blatantly and by-far the better of the two. It comes down to cost basically.
     
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    Porting the other applications should not be a problem either, they already use their own format for storing the application, which is neither ELF nor A.OUT. Only problem i see is if the CPU is big endian or little endian.
     
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    Intel can undercut AMD, as Intel has a ****load of money :p.

    Was looking at stock prices, they shot up at this news. If only I had the money to buy some Apple shares.
     
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    indeed portions of the code developed for Darwin is merged into the other BSD products. In 5.3 I believe the Darwin msdosfs code was merged into FreeBSD to provide better FAT filesystem performance and usage
     
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    I would hope Apple would aim for quality and not "cheaper". You often get what you pay for. ;)
     
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    That certainly wouldn't mean a deal with Intel then. However business is business, and often the cheaper supplier victors over the better product. (which again, is why Dell use Intel)
     
  16. SPeedY_B

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    Ooh :p
     
  17. muzikool

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    I want an Apple tablet. :D
     
  18. SPeedY_B

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    Not if it's running an Intel CPU you don't :p
     
  19. muzikool

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    Ahh crap. :dead:
     
  20. chastity

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    ok a Apple Tablet strikes me as a bit of odd idea since the ones that run windows have not really taken off etc and that Apple is following the rest of the PC world which they are not generally from what I've seen known to do