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[dave holbon]

catch23: -

Unless I’m mistaken copyright does not last forever.
Before you go any further you need to know that there is no official register for copyright. It is an unregistered right (unlike patents, registered designs or trade marks). So, there is no official action to take, (no application to make, forms to fill in or fees to pay). Copyright comes into effect immediately, as soon as something that can be protected is created and "fixed" in some way, e.g. on paper, on film, via sound recording, as an electronic record on the internet, etc.
It is a good idea for you to mark your copyright work with the copyright symbol © followed by your name and the date, to warn others against copying it, but it is not legally necessary in the UK.
Copyright gives rights to the creators of certain kinds of material to control the various ways in which their material may be exploited. The rights broadly cover: copying; adapting; issuing; renting and lending copies to the public; performing in public; and broadcasting. In many cases, the author will also have the right to be identified on his or her work and to object to distortions and mutilations of his work.
Copyright in a literary, dramatic, musical or artistic work (including a photograph) lasts until 70 years after the death of the author. The duration of copyright in a film is 70 years after the death of the last to survive of the principal director, the authors of the screenplay and dialogue, and the composer of any music specially created for the film. Sound recordings, broadcasts and cable programmes are protected for 50 years, and published editions are protected for 25 years.

This is similar in all countries of the western hemisphere including the US.

I think?

 

[Sprung]

I want to copyright 1's and 0's. Ok...now I own them! YAAAY YAAAY! What? I can't 'own' numbers??

Well then...

I'm vaclempt...talk amoungst yourselves.

 

[dave holbon]

Sprung


You can if, you can prove in court that they are original or an original composition.

A particular "string" of one's and zeroes can be so, if you can prove it's originality.

Make it so.

 

[Stircrazy]

Originally posted by catch23

Downloading MP3s of songs you don't own is illegal...just as illegal as warez...why aren't these threads closed?

Some downloadable ones are illegal others arent i got probably 50 or more albums of mp3z i just plain dont own original cd for but those ones are actually legal...those are the select few that are on site such as
www.emusic.com
and i think a liquid one you pay a low 1 time fee and they make it legal by having permission in 1st place although you cant get the latest **** always or all bands that how many i found just so far that ive wanted for a long time
$10 a month US is worth it (especially when some1 else in house pays it lol) but either way sayin d/ling mp3z of albums you dont own is as illegal as warez aint entirely true...

Other than those type sites for music lovers lol id say Use winMX

 

[dreamliner77]

Dave, Copyright is legally binding. You must apply for and pay to have a copywrite. (At least in the USA). I used to be in a band that copyrighted all our material. (It got expensive). One way around it---> If you write, record, create something, make a copy of it and mail it to yourself. When You get it back from the post office, it will be postmarked. Do Not Open it, ever. If you were ever have to go to court to prove ownership etc, the postmark is your proof.

 

[dave holbon]

dreamliner77: -

Copyright requires proof of originality i.e. an original composition or whatever where you can prove that you or you band composed the original first. Paying for registration with whatever organisation won’t stop you from being prosecuted by a third party or prove that your composition is copyright.

There have been many famous cases of musicians copyrighting their song/s and releasing it, only to be sued by another artist claiming that theirs was the original and that the new version was substantially based on their tune even though it was never released by a record company. It does not have to be an exact match either. There are also, at least in the UK, definitions of what you can and can’t be prosecuted for regarding musical compositions.

If you copy (exactly) less than two bars of music from another artist’s songs this cannot be held as a breach of copyright (I use to be a musician years ago) mind you these laws might have changed since then.

Copyright can only be legally binding after the court case which establishes originality and not before. This can lead to some surprising results where a famous musician whom heard a great tune in his youth and without any intent of copyright infringement unintentionally re-used this tune in a new composition. This is a clear breach of copyright if the original artist can prove his came FIRST.

Why are my lights flickering?

 

[Custer]

Just because it's copyrighted doesn't mean it's illegal to share. Many artists don't have a problem with sharing their copyrighted music, but then again probably the majority do object and rightly so... it's like you work all week and someone else gets your paycheck!

 

[dreamliner77]

Dave,

You are correct, that is why i was talking about the postmark thing to prove date. Just look at how many times Led Zeppelin was scolded for "borrowing" other people's tunes (Muddy Waters, etc).

It sounds like you are from the UK so the laws are different there (think McLibel). And this whole copyright thing will go on until there are international copyright laws. I mean, look at all the piracy in Asia. Some of that is actually legal in different Asian countries.

 

[dave holbon]

dreamliner77: -

These laws are Internationally binding and have been for a long time. Countries can chose to ignore them and do so on occasion.

At the end of the day it's whom you can sue successfully and collect the money from that counts. Record Companies know this, that's why the Internet frightens then so. They have no jurisdiction over it (yet) but by-god they are ploughing millions into lobbying senators to change the law internationally so as to control music, films and everything associated with it under the guise of lawlessness. This has been done before. Just look at the standards D.V.D. purports to and the way they have already “Zoned” and restricted these.

I can remember the introduction of the VCR, which for the first time gave the common man/woman, the possibility of viewing whatever he/she whished (ok it was porn). But this was a freedom that did not exist before and drove a whole industry and produced huge economic benefits to many countries. What was considered uncontrollable became a tool of power for some dishonest politicians (no change there then).

I have no interest in not giving what is due to Caesar, but remember what happened to the Holy Roman Empire!!!!!

Lights are still flickering. Am I dying?