Moore Approves Fahrenheit 9/11 Downloads

Discussion in 'Green Room' started by tdinc, Jul 4, 2004.

  1. tdinc

    tdinc █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Political User

    Sterling Heights, MICHIGAN
    Controversial film-maker Michael Moore has welcomed the appearance on the internet of pirated copies of his anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 and claimed he is happy for anybody to download it free of charge.

    The activist, author and director told the Sunday Herald that, as long as pirated copies of his film were not being sold, he had no problem with it being downloaded.

    “I don’t agree with the copyright laws and I don’t have a problem with people downloading the movie and sharing it with people as long as they’re not trying to make a profit off my labour. I would oppose that,” he said.

    “I do well enough already and I made this film because I want the world, to change. The more people who see it the better, so I’m happy this is happening.”

    Moore’s views have not been well received by Hollywood’s establishment, which is fighting a war against the online pirates it claims cost the industry £1.6 billion a year in lost sales.

    Jack Valenti, the outgoing president of the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), said: “We are proud that American films continue to enjoy immense popularity around the world but the need for copyright protection in the digital age is crucial to the preservation of our most prized trade asset.

    “Piracy is having a dramatic impact on the creators and copyright owners of this nation, and its defeat depends largely on the commit ment and resolve of the entire industry.

    “File sharing causes tremendous financial loss to the movie business, untold hardship to support workers, and costs thousands of jobs.”

    Distributed via websites such as, which lays claim to having served more than 17 million downloads, Moore’s documentary critique of the Bush administration’s red, white and blue rush into war with Iraq is among the web’s hottest properties.

    Thousands of copies of Fahrenheit 9/11 have already been downloaded, each taking about 3.5 hours over a broadband connection.

    Ironically, the burgeoning underground market for Moore’s much-debated documentary has been championed by both sides of the political divide. While left-wing sites promote the film’s message, opponents of the high-profile polemicist are urging people to “steal” their copy, thus denying its director his cut of the profits.

    Last month the website of producers Lions Gate Films was subjected to a barrage of attacks by hackers, with one creating a link to a download destination on the site’s front page.

    Despite up to 150 people simultaneously bagging free copies of its most valuable property at any given time 24 hours a day, Lions Gate says it has no plans to oppose the practice. While unwilling to make any official statement likely to further provoke Hollywood’s heavy hitters, the film company appears to have fallen into line with its director’s laissez-faire approach.

    Moore said: “Is it wrong for someone who’s bought a film on DVD to let a friend watch it for free? Of course it’s not. It never has been and never will be. I think information, art and ideas should be shared.”

    Defenders of Moore’s position include Pulp Fiction director Quentin Tarantino, who earlier this year encouraged audiences in countries where his films are not legally available to obtain counterfeit copies.

    The furore engulfing Moore is just the latest in a series of controversies surrounding the film. Almost smothered by original production company Miramax’s refusal to distribute the final cut, he also this year launched an unsuccessful legal attempt to overturn the MPAA’s decision to give the documentary an “R” rating, which barred under-16s from seeing the movie without an adult.

    Opposed by Move America Forward, a conservative group set up to dissuade cinemas from showing the film, Fahrenheit 9/11 has become one of the most controversial productions in Hollywood history. Last month Australian distributors Hopscotch Films claimed to have received e-mails warning that if the company went ahead with its planned release of the movie, it would do so “at our own peril”.

    The hubbub is unlikely to subside any time soon. With Lions Gate reporting that DVD rights are likely to be won by Disney-owned Buena Vista Home Entertainment, many commentators believe the digital distribution network may yet face serious opposition.

    Valenti said: “Nobody can allow their rights to be stolen because, if you can’t retrieve your investment, you’re out of the movie business,

    “I don’t think there’s really a single actor or director in the world who does not believe that if you don’t combat piracy, it will devour you in the future.”link to story
  2. dreamliner77

    dreamliner77 The Analog Kid

    Red Sox Nation

    Can you provide a link where this came from?
  3. tdinc

    tdinc █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Political User

    Sterling Heights, MICHIGAN
    added link at the end of the story :)
  4. xsivforce

    xsivforce Prodigal Son Folding Team

    Texas, USA
    Interesting move.
  5. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

    new york
    moore feels strongly about this work...obvious for him, this movie isn't about money in his pocket, he just wants people to see what he has to say and judge for themselfs
  6. NetRyder

    NetRyder Tech Junkie Folding Team

    New York City
  7. gonaads

    gonaads Beware the G-Man Political User Folding Team

    Now all that had said in the Fahrenheit 9/11 thread that they don't want to put money in Moore's pocket for this movie and that they would not go to see it, CAN. If they are of an open minded nature. Now that THAT excuse is no longer valid. We shall see. :)
  8. vern

    vern Dominus Political User Folding Team

    Minnesota, USA
    Now who wants to set up a Fahrenheit 9/11 download server? heh.
  9. Geffy

    Geffy Moderator Folding Team

    United Kingdom
    and if you do like it, then go see it, or see if you can paypal him a few $$
  10. ~bk

    ~bk I Political User

    Yep, interesting move by Moore.
  11. Grandmaster

    Grandmaster Electronica Addict Political User Folding Team

    Santa Clara, CA
    This is kinda out of context. He never said "You can go download Faranheit 9/11". The quote they have all over the internet is from a video clip of Michael Moore where he is asked what he thinks of people sharing his work over the internet. While that implies he doesn't mind file sharing as long as you don't make a profit, he has never specifically said you can go download Faranheit 9/11. Just wanted to clear things up a bit :)

    This was all started by a group of people who run a blog that is anti-Moore, you can read more about it here:
  12. Tittles

    Tittles Dabba Dooba Political User

    Muskegon, Michigan
    pretty much what he said means we can go download it :)...