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  1. gonaads

    gonaads Beware the G-Man Political User Folding Team

    How's this for DUMB. :p

    Gas tank gold to burn off debts
    Krugerrands worth $28,259 will go toward child support
    and alimony after the man who hid them draws police
    scrutiny.


    By WAVENEY ANN MOORE, Times Staff Writer
    © St. Petersburg Times
    published February 12, 2003

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    ST. PETERSBURG -- In times of uncertainty, some folks
    stuff cash inside a mattress. James P. Steiner chose
    the gas tank of his 1990 Dodge van.

    That's where his 77 Krugerrands -- 1-ounce gold coins
    worth $28,259 -- remained until Steiner decided it was
    time to make a withdrawal.

    Because banks don't handle this type of transaction,
    he pulled in to the Tire Plus store on Tyrone
    Boulevard. Mechanics removed the tank, and Steiner
    began to withdraw his coins, each about the size of a
    silver dollar.

    That's when things started going bad for Steiner.

    A bit suspicious, workers called police.

    Steiner, 35, owed his ex-wife child support and did
    not want her to know about the money, according to
    police. He also had concerns about what the IRS would
    do upon discovery of the Krugerrands, a gold coin of
    South Africa, often used for investment.

    Reached by phone Tuesday, Steiner refused to comment,
    except to dispute the police report.

    His ex-wife, though, had plenty to say.

    Cathy Young said she was shocked that her former
    husband "was driving around with $25,000, $26,000 in
    his tank . . . and he hasn't even helped with the
    kids."

    Young, 34, said she married Steiner a month after she
    turned 19, and the couple had two sons, now both
    teenagers. She also has two daughters, one 3 and other
    4 months old, with her second husband, Jim Young, 38,
    a construction worker.

    She recalled the day in early December when police
    showed up at her door.

    "He was arrested on Dec. 6, which I believe was a
    Friday, and the police came to me that Sunday," she
    said.

    "The first officer that came out wouldn't tell me a
    whole lot," she said. "He just said that my ex-husband
    had been arrested with some gold coins and a large
    amount of cash, and that the two officers handling the
    case would contact me later that evening.

    "The others came out and they had Polaroid pictures of
    the coins in the evidence room," she said. "They had
    them all laid out in a row . . . and they told me the
    story."

    According to St. Petersburg police, officers went to
    Tire Plus at 2800 Tyrone Blvd. The mechanic had
    removed the tank, and Steiner had retrieved the coins
    and dropped them into a milk carton.

    The store manager called the police to report the
    incident and to say that Steiner was causing a
    disturbance. Tire Plus employees declined to comment
    Tuesday, but court records indicate Steiner was
    annoyed because his car would not start.

    When police arrived, they searched Steiner and his
    vehicle. In addition to the Krugerrands, they found
    $831 in his wallet and a shirt pocket.

    Police said Steiner gave several versions of how he
    acquired the coins, including that he had purchased
    them and that they were a gift from his father. It was
    unclear how long the coins had been in the gas tank.

    According to the police report, Steiner "placed the
    coins into the gas tank . . . because he was paranoid
    about his ex-wife or someone else finding out."

    Steiner, whom police reports say was unemployed at the
    time, was arrested on outstanding warrants over unpaid
    parking tickets and an altered temporary auto tag.

    A few days later, during a child support hearing, the
    court ordered the appointment of a special master to
    sell the coins. The court said the sale should be
    applied to the $19,640.14 in child support, $5.761.40
    in alimony and more than $8,000 in interest.

    None the worse for being stored in a gas tank, police
    said, the coins were picked up by the special master a
    few days ago.

    Police say that Steiner currently faces no charges.

    -- Times researcher Caryn Baird provided information
    for this report.



    OOPS... :eek: :p
     
  2. Jewelzz

    Jewelzz OSNN Godlike Veteran

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    Ass! He deserves everything he gets for neglecting to help support his children.
     
  3. ZAnwar

    ZAnwar Guest

    .......no, my precious coins, who took my f***ing coins!


    And Jewelzz, I think that here new husband should pay the money. Thats a bit unfair, she keeps the children and still wants money!
     
  4. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

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  5. Jewelzz

    Jewelzz OSNN Godlike Veteran

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    She keeps the children??!!?? Was she suppose to return them?!?!
     
  6. freightgod

    freightgod Confused and Bewildered

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    Ah ZAnwar, the wrath thou hast incurred....
     
  7. XP Abuser

    XP Abuser Guest

    he should of put them up his ass then no one would of found out:D
     
  8. Jewelzz

    Jewelzz OSNN Godlike Veteran

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    The coins or his sons?
     
  9. gonaads

    gonaads Beware the G-Man Political User Folding Team

    I started this???... :eek: *runs* :confused:
     
  10. ZAnwar

    ZAnwar Guest

    I meant, she got custody and probably didn't let her ex see his children! Then she doesn't deserve to get the money.
     
  11. gonaads

    gonaads Beware the G-Man Political User Folding Team

    Maybe maybe not... The story did not say. But from the sound of it, he hid the Coins so he probably was at fault for something in the whole divorce process. Again maybe maybe not.

    But he sure fudged it up. :p

    If I was the Mechanic that dropped the gas tank I would have told him, "give up five (5) Coins and I won't give you up to the Cops". That would have been a good deal. He's happy... Me happy. ;) :cool:
     
  12. Jewelzz

    Jewelzz OSNN Godlike Veteran

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    Regardless if he saw his children or not, the courts ordered him to pay child support, he didn't. He'll be paying now though.
     
  13. ZAnwar

    ZAnwar Guest

    Where does it say that the court ordered him to?
     
  14. Hipster Doofus

    Hipster Doofus Good grief Charlie Brown

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    A quote from what that gonaads started. :p

    "A few days later, during a child support hearing, the
    court
    ordered the appointment of a special master to
    sell the coins. The court said the sale should be
    applied to the $19,640.14 in child support, $5.761.40
    in alimony and more than $8,000 in interest. "
     
  15. gonaads

    gonaads Beware the G-Man Political User Folding Team

    In the U.S. the U.K. and in other countries when a couple files for "Devorce" and there are children involved that are still minors (under age), the one that loses (the one that does not get the children) has to pay "Child Support" until the child/children are of age or the parent that has custody remarries.

    That's one of the problems in the U.S.

    "DEADBEAT DADS"

    They try to get out of dealing with their resposibility of raising their offspring.

    There are ocassions when the mother is the one that may have a "Career" job and is the one to pay for the "Child Support". And some women also try to get out of dealing with their offspring.

    Sometimes depending on circumstances, the parent that does not get custody also can not see the children or can only see them under supervision and for limited time. Sometimes it is "Joint Custody", where it is half 'n half.

    All these things depend on the circumstances and the details of the "Devorce".
     
  16. ZAnwar

    ZAnwar Guest

    Yeah and the wife married again so the ex shouldn't have to pay!
     
  17. the bottom line is YOU PLAY YOU PAY
     
  18. sounds like to me zanwar pays child support lol
     


  19. see what you fail to see is that its not about MONEY its about RESPONSIBLITY. when you have a child its a 50/50 thing.
     
  20. ZAnwar

    ZAnwar Guest

    I am 15 years old !