Having watched this news story on the television earlier ( Chambers gives selectors headache ) and having read this ( Baseball Truth Poll ) thread as I logged on today got me to thinking.. Given the way the UKA (relevant to Dwain Chambers only not baseball :laugh: ) has it's hands tied by international legislation, the mixed public opinions, and the perceived gain from using these drugs: Do you think that proven usage of performance enhancing drugs warrants a lifetime ban from World events such as the Olympic Games etc. For my two penn'orth I'd say yes it does. Provide a scary enough deterrent, and people will be less inclined to try and get away with using them. In the case of steroid usage for muscle gain, surely even after they've stopped using the drugs, the muscle mass they gained is still usable is it not? I feel if you intend to represent your country in any sport, you need to be clean, retroactively too. The whole process of fair competition and ergo the whole point of competition is undermined by unfair advantage. So, am I too harsh with this? Or do others feel that sportsmen/women should be able to compete internationally with a proven history of performance enhancing drug usage?