iTunes 6.0.2 is NOT spying on you.

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  1. Mastershakes

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    I am not sure they disclose this in their end user license agreement, but apparently ITunes is sending information back to Apple servers when you are using ITunes.

    This raises privacy concerns. As per the article, it's sending back information on your habits, and then sending specific advertising back to your ITunes based on the info it has stolen and crunched.

    While not the first application to do this, I thought it odd coming from Apple.

    Originally caught it on Slashdot's RSS feed.
     
  2. madmatt

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    WMP sends information out, but you can toggle WMP settings so it doesn't.
     
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    Is there a way to turn that off? I haven't used iTunes for over a year now, but I've been thinking about going back because a third party app that I use to put music on my iPod corrupted the directory structure on the iPod...which caused problems with playback.
     
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    I don't know if there is a way to turn it off. Will try to find out - I would imagine it's hard coded - still trying to find out where in the ITunes license agreement where it says they are doing this....

    Read it.... http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/itunes.html

    Doesn't say anything about agreeing to sending stats, receiving targeted advertising....

    mmmm... Sony like.
     
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  5. madmatt

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    Lawsuit pending...
     
  6. SPeedY_B

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    HOORAY FOR PARANOIA! Just close the mini store.

    No "information" is sent to apple, they just use the artist from the current track you are listening to in order to display recommendations in the mini store window at the bottom of iTunes... how the hell else are they supposed to display related tracks? It's not privacy invasion, it's not stealing data, it's nothing to be worried about.

    I'll say it again for the foil hat wearers Just close the mini store.



    p.s. link in the first post seems to be bork for me... ?
     
  7. NetRyder

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    I agree with Dave. It's just another mountain-out-of-molehill case.

    Same sort of ridiculous paranoia as the people who complained about Google invading their privacy by displaying contextual ads in Gmail, or the people who run around recommending Windows "anti-spy" apps so that it doesn't send your oh-so-private information to big, evil corporations like M$. Suits Slashdot to make a noise about it though. I'm not surprised.
     
  8. madmatt

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    And someone complained about selling body parts on eBay....
     
  9. SPeedY_B

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    It's not just Slashdot though, Kunal. The item appeared in many of the RSS feeds/sites I'm subscribed to over in Bloglines.

    I concur with the mountain/molehill though. The internets are getting far too paranoid for my liking these days :)
     
  10. SPeedY_B

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    Quick update:
    It's also been confirmed that if you just close the mini store, no data is transmitted at all:
    That about settles it methinks?
     
  11. Grandmaster

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    Good stuff.
     
  12. j79zlr

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    I too think that the reaction to some of this stuff is too knee jerk, but why are these things never opt-in, alway opt-out. Advertise the feature, if users want it, they can enable it.
     
  13. NetRyder

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    Another thing to note is that the feature is clearly mentioned on the site when you do to download it.

    It should be clear to anyone that some information about the songs that you're listening to has to be sent to the iTunes servers in order for it to identify similar tracks in the iTMS library. There's no other way to do it. It might not be in the EULA, but it's definitely not something they're trying to hide either. It's right on the site, prominently displayed as one of the new features. Can't compare it to what Sony did. I don't remember Sony mentioning rootkits anywhere on its site. :D
     
  14. SPeedY_B

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    There is a rather large button at the bottom right of iTunes which will let you close the ministore... I did this as soon as I downloaded and installed it, simply because I don't use the store.

    I think it's quite a nice feature if you do use the store though, you can obtain information on artists similar to those you already like. A nice way to discover new music.
     
  15. Khayman

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    SPeedY_B is stealing my brainwaves! *turns off brain*
     
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    Shuffle_db is the greatest thing ever. I thought iTunes was slow and bloated anyway. As to being malware, the IT guys where I work agree. They uninstalled iTunes every time I installed it, so I was forced to find this better (and MUCH faster) way to load my iPod.
     
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    I'm guessing that's because they figure most will NOT opt-in, and the assumption that if user's wanted it, they may not be capable of easily selecting the option.

    Anyway, as Speedy already intoned, here's the word from Apple...

    Macworld story

     
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  18. muzikool

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    iTunes ≠ Malware

    Want to update the thread title? ;)
     
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    heh. Mods?
     
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    Agreed. Mods please change the title when you have a chance.

    Muzi: I kid, I kid !

    I checked out that db_shuffle thing though.... so sweet.
     
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