Here at OSNN, we seem to have a great collection of people who are above the fray--most of us seem to make educated decisions about the hardware we buy, the browsers and applications we use, and the operating systems we have installed. Most of the people who say "I'm at ATI (or NVidia) kind of person" are just doing it in fun. In 2001, it was rare to see any hardware/gaming forum on the internet argue with any amount of objectivity. What is pushing these borders back? Education? Apathy? I don't know, but I like it. P.S. Sorry about the blogish post. They annoy me, too.