ICS Problems

Discussion in 'PC Gaming' started by Akash, Jun 7, 2002.

  1. Akash

    Akash OSNN Senior Addict

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    Sorry to repost this but things have changed and so I want to make a fresh start.

    Heres the problem

    I have 4 machines now altogether on a 5-port hub.
    All 4 are on XP.

    Machine 1: ICS Server. All this has is windowsXP and basically we use it on the network to connect to the internet via it... it has the modem connected to it

    Machine 2: This is the one with the problem. AMD 1800XP Asus a7v333 new computer i just built and scrapped the amd 1000 kt7a which i had no problems with regarding networking.

    machine 3: XP, onboard NIC works fine

    Machine 4: XP, 3com NIC works fine


    Now this is whats wrong
    Machine 2 just cant get proper internet access

    Websites time out, wont load, load slowly
    other apps like mirc/msn cant establish connections, or when they do, they periodically just disconnect or msgs wont go through etc.

    I formatted the machien again and same problem

    I tried another nic same problem

    Tried different cables, same problem

    It runs on ICS, Machine 1 beign the ICS server and 2,3,4 being the clients
    Ive set the IP's manually and used dhcp to control it, no luck

    Hope you guys can sort it out, ive tried many forums, help channels, and newsgroups, no one can seem to figure it out

    thanks
     
  2. JJB6486

    JJB6486 Retired Mod Political User

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    Try replacing the hub, or switching the port the PC goes into.

    If that doesnt work, try assigning the public DNS server addresses rather then the gateway's address for proxy DNS

    JJB6486
     
  3. notoes

    notoes Guest

    1.) Get Rid Of ICS
    2.) Stick Cable From Modem To Uplink Port In Hub - If You Don't got it, go get one, it works a lot better than ICS. Intel Has A Very Cheap Bussiness 5 Port 10MBit with uplink port
     
  4. Akash

    Akash OSNN Senior Addict

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    The fact that the other 3 computers work fine and that before i upgraded my machine it worked too, is the reason i wont buy anything

    As for modem to cable, i use a standard dialup modem not cbale modem

    I set the dns to 192.168.0.1 earlier on with no luck
     
  5. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    That will only work if his ISP will give him more than one IP. Most ISP:s only give you one.


    akash:

    Have you tried setting all NIC:s to half duplex instead of auto or full? Hubs can only cope with half duplex and auto does not allways work.
     
  6. Akash

    Akash OSNN Senior Addict

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    I will do that

    I set just this one to half earlier on with no luck

    I'll set this and the ics server to half and let you know

    till then do keep replying :)
     
  7. Akash

    Akash OSNN Senior Addict

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    ok
    no luck

    infact it feels a bit worser heh
     
  8. Akash

    Akash OSNN Senior Addict

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    so no more ideas ?
     
  9. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    Reformat, reinstall machine 2? Other than that I have no idea. Sorry.
     
  10. Akash

    Akash OSNN Senior Addict

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    Ive already reformatted with no luck :)

    Could there be an issue with the firewire?
    I notice with the new board (asus a7v333) the firewire ports are like network cards according to XP's Network Connections
    I have disabled them but still could they indirectly be affecting it?
     
  11. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    That shouldn't affect things. Have you tried static IP instead of dynamic on that machine? Don't forget to set default gateway and so on. Is the NIC onboard or PCI? I saw you said you had changed them but if you have one built in, adding another one could cause problems.
     
  12. Akash

    Akash OSNN Senior Addict

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    PCI realtek 8139 Not onboard

    tried setting ips manually
     
  13. bigfella

    bigfella Guest

    same problem here

    Cant get ics to work on any client computers after installing xp
    also have to use static ip just to see other clients on network
    using dsl internet. need help badly
     
  14. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    akash: I know some people have had problems with the 8139 circuit (or Realtek on the whole). See if you have another card with another circuit on it (Intel, 3Com, Tulip).

    bigfella: Have you set default gateway on the clients? Can you ping the ICS computer? Can you ping anything outside the LAN? Have you tried changing the MTU (Maximum Transmission Unit)? I always recommend DHCP for easy configuration. Are you sure you can't see the other computers when you use DHCP, because you use DHCP? Should be no difference really.
     
  15. Akash

    Akash OSNN Senior Addict

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    Hiya

    I did try a 3com card out not too long ago with no luck
    I could buy an intel one but i dont know if its going to be then a waste of money :(

    Out of 1 to 10, whats your theory of it working with another card?
     
  16. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    Well, pretty much 1 to 10 I'm afraid. Since you have allready tried with a 3Com it shouldn't be the card. But I have no clue what else it could be. Have you tried using another PCI slot?

    Do you have a hub btw? Can you see if you get a lot of collisions?

    Do you have DSL? In that case you can try lowering your MTU value. Shouldn't be it either.

    Aw, crap this is a hard one (or probably not as usual). :confused:
     
  17. Akash

    Akash OSNN Senior Addict

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    Ive tried all 5 PCI slots heh

    As for Hub, yes i do have one, and use one too... now if there was to be a collision theres a seperate light that would turn on, and that has not been the case

    DSL, unfortuntly no :)
     
  18. bigfella

    bigfella Guest

    z

    i can see other computers now, but ni internet on client computers
     
  19. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    akash: AAAAGGGHHH!! What is wrong with that network of yours?! Oh yeah, we were trying to find that out. ;) Bugger. Well there is one rule left, "when you have a really freakish network problem, use a switch instead of a router". Do you think you could try that? I have no idea if it'll work.

    bigfella: Did you use DHCP? Is ICS enabled on the Internet connection rather than the LAN card?
     
  20. bigfella

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    zedric

    Tried all that , still doesnt work. I even swapped out network cards to see if it was in the cards. I can ping each computer no problem and each card but cant connect to internet with client computers.:confused: