OK - if this thread needs merging, by all means merge it. There is a general one where it can go - but I have reached a point where I have a good idea what i want to achieve for completion on a small set of pages that, if I make them a little smoother and sort out certain linkages and apply a little smoothing design I might even glorify to call a "website". The Domain in question is here And what I would like to set up is something like this but I realise this is far from the standard PayPal donate button i have put in now - I'll need to box that up and have front end that gets it into an SQL database I guess. I've tried hunting about for Brion to ask for his source without any joy this far - the wikipedians channel on freenode looks deader than OSNN! Maybe someone on OSNN has set up similar or might feel like rising to the coding challenge. I just know that people will be more encouraged to daonate with this kind of live feedback to show progress being made.