I'm gonna give the backstory so no one bothers asking me why I'm doing it this way. Here goes. The phone company is also the cable company here. As a result we have DSL instead of cable. In thier infinite wisdom they have a cable box that is an all in one headache. It does DSL, cable tv, caller id, voice mail. You name it. Since my old house isn't wired, the phone/cable (phable?) company ran some cable and slapped together this little network for me. There's probably 80 feet between box and router (dsl box is downstairs pc's are upstairs) It's an ugly run but it works by going Cable box -> router -> two pc's. Bout a month ago I added a Tivo downstairs, to do that I put a switch in. Now its Box > switch > tivo > router > pc's. Again, working fine. Last week the phable company decided we need to go pppoe, I never dealt with this so I don't know or care what the big deal is (according to the letter I got it has something to do with MS dropping ME/98 support) but I guess it makes you enter a user and password first. To do this I had to put the login info into my router just like the instructions said and it worked fine. For the PC's anyway, the Tivo can't connect to the network. It either gives me an error about not being able to find the gateway or not being able to connect to DHCP. Since the pc's work fine I figure it has to be wired correctly but I don't know. I've tried to put the cables into different ports (uplink and such) but I still can't get it. I realize this is probably the dumbest setup ever and it's very confusing but ANY advice would be magnificent. I'm sick of fighting it though and I'm going to bed. Night all!