Can anyone help out with this mind numbingly boring but frustrating problem I'm having. I've always used MS java, but since this is no longer available/ supported I was looking into Sun Java. I downloaded (which at 2.5kb/s was a tedium in itself) 1.42.05 only to read that it has a vulnerability. i got 1.42.06 only to find that when I test it on the java website test page (here I get a message telling me it is an old version. i finally download 1.5.0 (or whatever) to find it doesn't even load the test page correctly. I went into the control panel applet and firefox wasn't even on the list of browsers. I tried mozilla but it wasn't having any of that. Would it be better doing a reinstall and not installing MS JVM at all if so which version of Sun JRE am I best installing? and how do I get it to work with firefox?? I used to have long hair to my feet, I am so frustrated i've pulled it all out and what little I have makes me look like Penfold!!!! If anyone can help I'd be really greatful!!