google project 10x100

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  1. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

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    I just entered

    my entry is an idea I've developed since I bought my car with dual turbo charger

    a turbo charger converts sound energy and heat energy to mechanical energy which can be converted to electrical energy

    my entry is as follows

    in cars that do not use a turbo for popwer, hook up a turbo drive anyway and use it to power the alternator and the air conditioner compressor.

    even cars that rely on the turbo for boost, most engines are in boost only a few percent of the time, the turbo can definately be used to serve dual purposes

    this is found energy since it is using energy that would otherwise be converted to heat energy by the muffler

    enter your ideas then post here so we can discuss
     
  2. falconguard

    falconguard Carbon based lifeform Political User Folding Team

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    Wouldn't a super charger be more efficient in a car? Since a supercharger would give the benefit over the entire speed range, whereas a turbo charger would only take effect after you have hit a certain level of speed to maximise it's potential.

    Not that I'm against turbo, but there would be more efficient means of energy recycliing for engines than others.

    Good topic.
     
  3. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

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    no, super chargers are parasitic and would draw power from the engine since they are tied to the crank, the air conditioner compressor and the alternator are tied to the crank and that's what we are trying to avoid.

    done with a turb you are reclaiming lost energy, done with a super charger you are becomming a parasite on the energy that is not lost

    a turbo charger uses exhaust gas to power the drive, if all things were perfect that would translate into a parasitic reclamation as well since back pressure does lose horsepower, but there is a caveat when it comes to autos that changes the formula;

    cars have to quite the exhaust, they do this with the muffler so the energy is lost regardless

    instead of loosing energy through the muffler we convert that sound energy to mechanical energy

    that makes it found energy instead of parasitic

    super chargers are only preferable in autos because they give immediate boost, a turbo charger needs to spool up from exhaust so it is less responsive at low rpms but much more efficient at high rpms

    the solution is a hybrid of two sorts, take your pick

    you can have a super charger that is clutch engaged at low rpm and switches to turbo charger when there is enough exhaust pressure to drive the compressor

    or a dual turbo with either two small spools that fire up immediately or an asymmetrical dual system, one small for low rpm and one big for higher rpm

    the super charger is pretty much the least advanced, least efficient of any of these methods
     
  4. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

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    Re: google project ten

    I'm surprised nobody on this board has anything to submit to this contest.

    I just sent my second entry;

     
  5. Perris Calderon

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