Freezing Under Intense Conditions

Discussion in 'Windows Desktop Systems' started by Brad, Dec 1, 2004.

  1. Brad

    Brad Moderator Political User Folding Team

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    Hey yall--

    My computer freezes (mouse is unmoveable, have to manually turn the computer off) mainly during movies or under intense graphical situations. I ran DirectX Diagnostic Tools and it said that it didnt see any problems....any help?

    Thx

    Brad

    edit: just froze again, temp was 56C
     
  2. suicide_pact

    suicide_pact ---pro a.v. geek

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    Are your video drivers current?
    What about chipset?
    If not that, I'd reccomend trying to find out what temp. your processor is and if it's overheating. Try motherboard monitor.
    Also, are you overclocking anything? ram, cpu, video?
     
  3. Brad

    Brad Moderator Political User Folding Team

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    nothing is being overclocked...
    video drivers are current, chipset drivers are current
     
  4. suicide_pact

    suicide_pact ---pro a.v. geek

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    hmmm, it seems like your cpu might be running a bit hot, what kind of cpu are you running?
     
  5. suicide_pact

    suicide_pact ---pro a.v. geek

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    Can you coolyour proc. anymore and see if that helps?
     
  6. dreamliner77

    dreamliner77 The Analog Kid

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    Brad-

    1) A big what's up

    2) Definitely think it's a cooling problem. Check and make sure all fans are still running. A good cleaning with some compressed air probably wouldn't hurt much either.
     
  7. Mainframeguy

    Mainframeguy Debiant by way of Ubuntu Folding Team

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    Hey there Brad! You've been missed on the Folding team! Maybe a bad time to mention that, but anyways if you need to do any burn in tests for any changes - Folding works well ;)
     
  8. Brad

    Brad Moderator Political User Folding Team

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    i am using an athon xp 2400. i forget what the stuff is called, but the gel that goes in between the fan and the cpu----if i put some different stuff on there, would that help? I had put some stuff that came with the fan on there....

    and hello to dreamliner and to mainframeguy
     
  9. Mainframeguy

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    It's called thermal paste ;)

    If you use the best and apply it just right (ideally it is uniformly just a few molecules thick!) then you might shave two or three degrees C off your temps, not much more I should think UNLESS there is something wrong with the way your current paste is applied or it has to some extent degraded (which I believe can happen after years and years).

    So not a radical change, not like fitting a high end cooler where you might even achieve ten degrees extra cooling under load, maybe.
     
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  10. Brad

    Brad Moderator Political User Folding Team

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    i've got two fans though...both running and everything...
     
  11. X-Istence

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    check if they are not pumping against each other :p.

    Also, open up your case and while the case is open play on the PC, if you don't get the problem it has to do with the way hot air is removed from your case by the fans.

    Take up the advice on the compressed air, and blow and dust out of the PC. If you are carefull enough, unplug the PC, and take your vacuum cleaner and hold it 1/2 inch above the motherboard to suck up all the dust while you spray with compressed air. If wanted, take a small paint brush that has never been used, that has plastic bristles that don't break off easily, and just sweep it over the dust to get it to loose up and then let the vacuum suck it up.

    Good luck.
     
  12. Dublex

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    X-Istence knows what he is talking about, but I think its best to use a PC vaccum cleaner instead a normal one that can play havoc with electric systems (static)
     
  13. Brad

    Brad Moderator Political User Folding Team

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    I have one fan in the back and one fan in the bottom.
     
  14. Electronic Punk

    Electronic Punk Administrator Staff Member Political User Folding Team

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    Ok, is the paste very thinly applied?

    Effectively, the way you should imagine thermal paste is not cement between 2 bricks (ie a good amount) but imagine that the bottom of your heatsny is not perfectly smooth. All the paste should do is fill tiny gaps to ensure there is no air between the CPU and the block.

    Aside from that it could be your GPU over heating. What is it? (graphics card)
     
  15. Brad

    Brad Moderator Political User Folding Team

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    this is my graphics card info
     

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  16. toretto

    toretto Mentally Absent

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    #1 up your refresh rate, that has to flicker lick hell.

    #2, how much ram do you have? could be using and excess amount and slowing everything down really bad,

    make sure the fan on the video card is working correctly.

    also, does that card need addition power source? if so, is your power supply big enough?

    and does nvidia have like ati has vpu recover? that might be causing it.

    one thing i would try is setting all of your stuff in the bios to auto, (ram, proc., etc.)

    i had that problem once with a puter and it ended up being the ram not set to auto in the bios, dont ask me why, but it did it for me.
     
  17. Maveric169

    Maveric169 The Voices Talk to Me

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    You might try changing your graphics drivers to the 66.** on the Nvidia site. I recently started having a similar problem out of the blue. I removed and install the WHQOL (whater) drivers and things are stable now. I have no idea why things went nuts our of the blue like they did but that was my fix.
     
  18. koko

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    i'm using the 67.02 beta dets. if it's not a heating problem (which it sounds like it is), try those drivers.