Discussion in 'Green Room' started by muzikool, May 26, 2005.
Better not download Episode III!
Usenet, on the other hand, still going strong.
MSN E-Mail storage.
Some of us have a few new CD's. :wink:
As is IRC, other torrent sites, HTTP Warez and all the private scene FTP servers.
Piracy will never stop, the point is that the MPAA/FBI/RIAA/Whoever are trying to make a point to the would-be-pirates that piracy is wrong, and you can land yourself in trouble by stealing.
Piracy will never ever stop. MPAA/FBI/RIAA has no jurisdiction in Canada, though the Mounties have been cooperating more recently. Thankfully my ISP has already gone to court twice and won.... the right to keep it's client's names confidential.
Who is your ISP ?
As for now we are not really affected by any of this but to what extent I am not 100% sure we can get away with anything we want , but as for right now we seem to be imune.
The thing about it though is that nothing can happen to the owners. Torrent sites are legal, mostly because they don't host the files. All they do is track them. If anything, the Feds should be thanking the torrent sites. Then when it comes to the MPAA and the RIAA wanting nothing but money I can see why they are like they are ..
click save link as....
Kinda ironic when just days ago an ET admin gave me another condescending response to a post I made in the ET forums about ET being compromised. Tsk tsk.
Lets get into the legal side of things. Possession of copyrighted material is what? a felony? misdemeanor? I was under the impression that a new law will soon make it a felony to possess copyrighted material. Is this true? Is it already in effect?
It is for movies now I believe.
Clue: The fastest residential cable provider in North America.
Wouldn't that make it impossible to have or buy movie or music, or much of anything
Videotron ? they're a bunch of f**kers
If the movies or music haven't been released, it's pretty much impossible for you to legally have them and have copies of them. I don't know anything about the new law or if it is in effect so this is all just speculation.
There are 2 types of crimes. Criminal and civil. Civil result in fines, criminal in fines and or jail time.
DCMA provides for fines of over $100k per illegally obtained copyrighted item. This is being used solely for harassment of file sharers and P2P networks.
Copyright infringement laws are usually treated as criminal because there is intent to defraud the property owners. This is where the big hits are. Bootlegging syndicates make 100's of thousands of copies of songs and movies and sell them. The middle east, russia, the far east (south america?) all have flourishing bootleg industries. When they take these guys down they go for jail terms.
There is also a new law on the books making it illegal to tape movies in theatres. I think that one is criminal.
The total bull**** in all of this is the amount of loss claimed. There were 10,000 downloads of SW III the first day but millions of tickets were sold. They lost $40k to P2P and made $10's of millions. The whole thing is solely about harassment. They are not suffering any documentable, significant losses.
30 years ago when this came up with VCRs the Industry was beat into submission. Obviously the politicians are easier to buy off today than they were back then.
Eh, I could care less about downloading movies in theaters and the like myself. It's more TV shows that I either can't see (time is bad and no my life doesn't revolve around the tube) or shows that are foreign shows and simply aren't carried by channels here in the US...
And yes, the VCR wars come to mind... As did the cable companies trying to charge for each additional TV, when no converter was rented (cable ready TV)... In the case of shows that are broadcaste over the air waves, I think there is an object lesson for the recording industry (which they were given back in the days of the VCR wars); TV is meant to be a form of entertainment, not one's life or the object one's life revolves around. One's life should not have to ordered around when they chose to schedule something, if the channels chose to discontinue something (that might air elsewhere), or other such scheduling decisions... There's also discontinued shows, that aren't put in production (that have largely become collectors items as few copies still exist in the world), etc to consider...
I work for Videotron I am a support tech for them :laugh:
I also work part time for another multi national as a local admin.
Speaking of foot in mouth...I was not expecting to hear this I'm gathering ep0niks wasn't either...
Albeit speaking of ISPs, I'm a bit happy that the one I'm with has a rather liberal TOS... They see themself as more suppliers of the pipeline, and don't have the fair use restrictions, restrictions on routers and NAT, sharing an IP with multiple comps, etc that some other ISPs (such as with some cable companies) seem to have.
They even specifically state "servers welcome" and the like in their TOS... As long as one doesn't hack into their network and crash things...they don't mind their customers business too much...
i havent downloaded a torrent since the news.. i was a site member. im starting my career now, its too risky to be a pirate.... i think.
I'm just looking for other sites (tv torrents also went down) to get my TV shows and the like. Speaking of which, another ep of the New Doctor Who is supposed to be out (Sunday again). And speaking of which, I don't think there is a single channel on my cable line up, here in Albuq, NM where it's aired... Packing my bags, and moving to the UK to watch a TV show, is sorta outa the question