DNS Problem?

Discussion in 'Windows Desktop Systems' started by dillinja, Aug 21, 2006.

  1. dillinja

    dillinja OSNN Junior Addict

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    Hi everyone and thanks for reading this. I have an annoying intermittent broadband problem!
    Every couple of days or so I find I cannot connect to the Internet. I get a "DNS res" error page come up on my browser. This happens for anything up to 2 hours during which time I have to reboot until I can eventually connect. My 360 can't connect either and it also reports a DNS problem when it goes into it's diagnostic mode that it does when it can't connect. Once I am logged in successfully my connection is 100% bulletproof.
    I have reported this to my ISP (BT) and they are totally useless. I have been trawling the forums looking for help and found something about changing your DNS settings to Dynamic. If I log into my router (Netgear DG834GT) through a browser there is an option for me to do this but I need add a hostname, username and password.
    Does anyone know if this might fix the problem I am having and what details I need to enter?
     
  2. Admiral Michael

    Admiral Michael Michaelsoft Systems CEO Folding Team

    The hostname, username and password are probably for an PPPoE connection (aka DSL). On my Linksys I can specify a DNS setting under DHCP.

    Here's how the typical router handles DNS. When your computer requests an IP from DHCP (router) the router gives it an address but also sets the DNS to the router's UP addy. When your computer requires DNS it asks the router which in turn asks the DNS servers assigned by your ISP, I know that Bell Sympatico (my ISP) has crappy DNS servers.

    You could try using 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 as a DNS server. The DNS setting under DHCP tells the computer to use those addresses instead of the router's IP taking the router out of the loop and possibly eliminating the issue.
     
  3. X-Istence

    X-Istence * Political User

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    My router is not one that replaces it with it's own. Mine is a linksys and just passes off the standard ISP ones. I have set up my own DNS server on my network, and have addded those to the router to be handed out to anyone that connects. Completely bypassing my ISP and doing my own DNS caching, results in happy family members, faster internet speeds, and in general increased surfing pleasure.
     
  4. fyreme

    fyreme OSNN One Post Wonder

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    Hi everyone,

    This is my second post, this thread is very interesting. I have a linksys router, and my isp dns servers have never given me any problems, but hey, knowledge is power.

    What are the dns addys, 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 ?

    X-Istence, I take it your set up your dns server without any zones? Does it just use its own root hints then, to migrate through the dns hierarchy, and resolve names through recursion? Interesting setup, never would have thought of it.

    tia
     
  5. rotjong

    rotjong Moderator

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    Try using the OpenDNS. Check the http://www.opendns.com site for info.

    OpenDNS DNS server IPs:

    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220

    rotjong
     
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  6. X-Istence

    X-Istence * Political User

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    Little program named dnscache from DJB does just that, nameserver resolving and caching. I don't use bind. With dnscache there are no zones to set up as it does only one thing, cache and do recursive queries, to host domains you would use tinydns also from DJB, which is what this site uses to return IP address's for hostnames.
     
  7. kcnychief

    kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Political User Folding Team

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    I'm not in the UK, but I believe BT is Cable Internet which doesn't require any authentication, at least not in most cases.

    I'm not entirely convinced your ISP is at fault. I would think if "their DNS" was giving you problems for 2+ hours, it would be a known issue and others would be complaining rather than just you.

    I would suggest taking your router out temporarily, but the "Every couple of days or so" might be a tough time interval to test.

    You could try verifying you are at the latest firmware, maybe borrowing an extra router from someone else to test with?
     
  8. dillinja

    dillinja OSNN Junior Addict

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    Thanks everyone. Next time I get this problem I will call BT at the time and see if they can come up with anything whilst it's actually happening. I'll post up anything I find out.
     
  9. Geffy

    Geffy Moderator Folding Team

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    You'd be wrong ;) BT is ADSL based, theres a couple cable internet companies in the UK, but nearly all are PPPoA ADSL based.

    If was you I'd try the openDNS servers that were suggested, but I'm not so I will continue using my djb dnscache similar to X-Istence instead.
     
  10. kcnychief

    kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Political User Folding Team

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    Eh I guess I should stop guessing about things that happen across the ocean :D

    Regardless though - if it was a BT thing wouldn't more users have reported it?
     
  11. Geffy

    Geffy Moderator Folding Team

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    You over-estimate the typical level of competence of BT users (and staff), its possibly a bit above AOL ;)
     
  12. fyreme

    fyreme OSNN One Post Wonder

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    Just configured opendns, easy, and faster, Thank you :)
     
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  13. r0k

    r0k OSNN One Post Wonder

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    Thanks for pointing this out! I made the switch this morning! No more comcrap dns!
     
  14. Mainframeguy

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    you did the right thing, you said thanks, the thread is useful..... ===> have some rep :)
     
  15. brocher

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    I was just reading this thread and was wondering if i allocated DNS to my router and pc's if the IP address given out would be different from my ISP.
    There were a few site that i have visited that i used to get that now come up saying that users with similar IP address(same company) were block from using the site. Would this get around this problem or not. I do not wish to hide my IP just change it.
     
  16. kcnychief

    kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Political User Folding Team

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    If you change DNS entries on your Router, this will NOT change the IP you get from your ISP or the IP addresses (internal) that your machines inherit.