Can I sue N-Case? Spyware Knocked Out My Comp Twice!

Discussion in 'Windows Desktop Systems' started by FreeWilly, Jan 31, 2005.

  1. FreeWilly

    FreeWilly OSNN Senior In Progress

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    Hey people....wut's up...

    I am just writing this to find out a way to sue those
    SOB at N-Case!!! Actually I dont think I can but I had
    to vent out the frustation......

    Does anyone has a list of websites that forcibly
    tries to installs spywares!...My comp got infected
    twice during browsing and N-Case was involved
    with both of them and I had to use System
    Restore to revive my laptop.

    During the infection i noticed the browsing slowing
    down a little and the Microsoft AntiSpyware reported
    it detected the installation and I clicked on Block.
    After that I ran full scan and tried to clean the infection
    but most of my startup software like McAfee antivirus and even
    Microsoft Spyware had errors and could not be invoked to
    run after a restart. I also used Ad-aware and Spybot to
    scan.

    The best part about it was I never even agreeed for
    anything to be installed on my pc. My internet security
    setting which was Medium originally was automatically
    set to low. DIdnt know how that happened.
    Thank god Microsoft actually had System Restore...
    they did something right at least :laugh:

    Why dont u hackers out there combine forces
    and shut down whatever online presence N-Case has.
    Anybody interested in funding that project?
     
  2. zeke_mo

    zeke_mo (value not set) Staff Member Political User Folding Team

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    If we could sue they wouldnt make spyware :\
     
  3. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    You know what? There is a very effective way to avoid spyware all together. The trick is not to use Internet Explorer. Get Firefox instead (or whatever alternative browser you prefer).
    http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
    It's free, it's good, it's fast and it's safe.
     
  4. yoyo

    yoyo _________________

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    OK, try to sue a company that had $19,395,033.00 revenue in 2003. :angry:

    180solutions, Inc.
    Address: 3600 136th Place SE
    City: Bellevue
    Province: WA
    ZIP Code: 98006
    Country: USA
     
  5. Johnny

    Johnny .. Commodore .. Political User

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    yeah it is nice. Except for the fact that the activex plug-in on itsux. Also you can't browse certian sites with add block set, this onefor example ..
     
  6. zeke_mo

    zeke_mo (value not set) Staff Member Political User Folding Team

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    Adblock works fine for osnn, it was built around the option to block ads and still see the normal site. And they arent activeX they are extenstions.....big difference
     
  7. SPeedY_B

    SPeedY_B I may actually be insane.

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    or don't use windows.

    *runs and hides in a very small corner*


    p.s. thanks for supporting this site by blocking the ads. :dead:
     
  8. zeke_mo

    zeke_mo (value not set) Staff Member Political User Folding Team

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    I goto the text ads!!!! (i know they are all junk) So I support the site in my own way, just not with image ads
     
  9. LeeJend

    LeeJend Moderator

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    Hey this is the USA. You can sue anyone or anything for any frivolous reason imaginable. Your chances of winning are miniscule, but what the hell. If you live in California or Massachusetts your chances of a win are better.

    1). Check if your state has spam or spyware laws. If yes, your odds got better.

    2). Document how many hours and what the costs to you of resolving the problem were.

    3). Contact your local district attorneys office and file a complaint.
    ----Invasion of privacy, identity thefty, unlawful entry?

    4). Contact your state attorney generals office and file a complaint.

    5). Send complaint letters to your senators (email) and congressman (snailmail).
    ---- Congressmen don't know how to use the internet yet. Senators do.

    6). Contact your local american civil liberties offcie and see if they have any interest in taking the case on.

    None of this may be worth the effort, but if enough people do it legislation shows up to ban spyware.

    AND figure out which sites dumped the spyware on you. Sue and file complaints against them. Send their names to adaware, spybot S&D, etc. Get them listed as sites to be blocked. This will hit them in the wallet where it really hurts. You won't win but it will scare them into using less invasive advertising.
     
  10. Johnny

    Johnny .. Commodore .. Political User

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    Plugin - Extension, they are basically the same. Either way - Firefox sux .. Plain and simple.

    Also the reason I block the adds is becuse it slows the site down to a crawl. There are times where it won't even load because of them ..
     
  11. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    I disagree. What exactly sucks about it? Yes there are a few (veryfew) sites that FF has a problem with out there, but only because theywere coded specifically for IE (non-standard code), or coded by idiots(broken code). I can't name even one site I generally want to visitthat FF has a problem with.

    Now on the upside, FF has popup blocking (yes IE has finally got thattoo now), tabbed browsing and interface customization. You can easilyadd adblock, download manager, winamp (or 15 other players) control,dictionary search, page and text translations and a huge amount ofother extensions.

    Plus it won't take in any spyware. I can live without ActiveX support. When do you need that anyway?

    So you may not like Firefox for whatever reason. But does it plainly and simply suck? I think not. :p
     
  12. well said zedric :D i didn't wanna change at first from IE but mafia kept on pushing do it do it so i did and now i dont wanna go back to IE but true there are a few things that dont work but heik firefox is still the best :D
     
  13. zeke_mo

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    Well said. I agree 100%....... boo to IE
     
  14. Mastershakes

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    System Restore is a last resort.

    Firefox is pretty dope. I havn't had very many web browsing glitches with it at all, and the cookie/active-x management is unparalelled.

    I have however had success in securing my IE relatively well. The SP2 additions help me stop the popups entirely, and I've slowly set up the trusted, non-trusted sites. I've asked it to prompt me for most changes, and I start the browser with a customized shortcut that forces the home page to google every time. Prevents a changed home page from starting the spyware/adware flood. Every once in awhile I run a hijackthis scan to see what's changed.

    Best way to avoid n-case is not to agree to the installation. Here's the best part about n-case. you can remove it in add/remove programs. Then of course run your spybot, adaware (updated of course) and get Microsoft (GIANT) Anti-spyware up and running. It will rid you of the footprint that annoyingly keeps installing itself.

    Another good hiding spot for these spyware bastardos - c:\Winnt\downloaded program files (sometimes c:\windows\downloaded program files) --- bring it up in DOS and check out what's in there. any unfamiliar looking .dll or .inf files ... google them. check out any .exe files while you are at it. Also, keep an eye on your registry start up keys. I use Hijack This or spybot to monitor it, but you can also navigate directly.

    The magic keys are:
    HKLM\software\microsoft\windows\current version\run
    HKCU\software\microsoft\windows\current version\run

    Google the stuff you don't recognize, and learn about it.
    I've noticed recently some are starting to install themselves as services.
    Google unusual looking services, (in 2000/XP/2003 start, run, services.msc)

    Also check out this key:
    HKLM\software\microsoft\windows\current version\run services

    In any case I get carried away. There is of course more, I believe spybot can immunize against the silent installation of n-case products, but if they somehow get an opt-in by you, it installs regardless of spybot's immunization active-x helper. Now blocking some 2400 different threats.

    Don't get me wrong. I still get spyware infections. It's all that pron I'm always after.... and of course other unmentionables in this forum. It's just that I've been battleing spyware for a long time, and I havn't given up completely on IE, though I understand all those touting Firefox out there. It's almost every bit as awesome as people say it is.
     
  15. Evil Marge

    Evil Marge I Rule Political User

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    I sometimes have to use the most crappiest pc you can imagine but don't have problems with the ads slowing things down :)
     
  16. suicide_pact

    suicide_pact ---pro a.v. geek

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    you could always browse first w/ firefox, check the code, make sure the site is on the level, then, if you need to, browse the site w/ IE.
     
  17. NetRyder

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    That's a few blocks down from the Microsoft campus. Maybe BillG can go bitch-slap them :D

    That's so true. [​IMG]

    ...or don't use a computer at all. :p
     
  18. RickyC

    RickyC OSNN Addict

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    I've had a good run with IE, hardly any spyware at all on any of my machines at home, but then I take precautions. Though I like the way FireFox goes about things, I still use IE as my browser of choice.

    As for work, we have over 800 machines packed with spyware/adware, admin HELL! and I agree IE is the main culprit, but so are the people using the machines as they don't give a *hit and just hit 'Ok' on any prompt just to get to the content they want!!!

    PS. Use Lynx and you'll get no spyware at all ;)
     
  19. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    Exactly! :) In IE you can do that, in Firefix you can't. ;)
     
  20. Admiral Michael

    Admiral Michael Michaelsoft Systems CEO Folding Team

    I too didnt really want to change to firefox but I was sick and tired of spyware, and I didnt get ANY install notices. So I tuffed it out and went to firefox, havent had spyware since (cept if it comes with an install). I recommend firefox.