Hi, I've noticed a number of complaints involving vista security and recommended updates either not installing properly or generally screwing up a perfectly good windows installation. I suspect the last problem I had (when system restore stopped working) may have been due to a bad update. I've decided to shut off automatic updates for now and cherry pick only the ones I'm going to install... It would be nice to get input from other Vista users at OSNN on which updates to avoid and which ones ought to be installed immediately. I think it would be helpful for newbies like me. Thanks - I'm hoping to see some posts!