OK now I have a DVD R/W and I got it for two reasons, in no particular order:- A) To use with my digital camcorder B) For some kind of permanent backup/migration media So far I have only shelled out for one piece of software (think I had a thread on this last year) which is WinOnCD DVD Edition, and so far I am unimpressed with what I can do. The component of WinOnCD that might enable multi disc backup seems to maybe be DirectCD and that fails constantly on DVD media and Roxio's support has gone t*ts-up! I think WinOnCD has something like data projects, but I think they are not going to give the sort of backup I want and I am constantly frutrated by DVD formats that cannot suppport disc spanning. But enough moaning. So, OK, at the moment my only backup is to my secondary HD - which gives me some comfort but is not what I aimed for. BTW presently my total backup need is around the 16GB mark, but of course I expect this to grow, maybe as high as 100GB when I am editting DV. Do I need to consider a "third way" that will mean me buying more hardware? What do others around here do? And with what software (I'm presently sticking to the XP backup). I'll post a poll - but only vote please if you feel informed, there's no obligation.