Apple iPhone

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  1. fitz

    fitz Just Floating Along Staff Member Political User Folding Team

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    The Apple iPhone has been officially announced..

    And I must say I think it is a really slick device. A total touch screen solution.. no keyboards and/or stylus. Small, thin, and just plain SICK!

    Runs off OSX! I love the accelerometer that changes the display orientation based on the orientation of the device. I would love to see how it works.

    To be officially available in June 2007 as a Cingular exclusive phone. Price points are a little high ($499/4GB version $599/8GB version w/two year commitments) but when you take into account the iPhone functions both as a iPod as well as a SmartPhone, it's not a bad price point.

    Technical Specs from Apple:
    Screen size: 3.5 inches
    Screen resolution: 320 by 480 at 160 ppi
    Input method: Multi-touch
    Operating system: OS X
    Storage: 4GB or 8GB
    GSM: Quad-band (MHz: 850, 900, 1800, 1900)
    Wireless data: Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) + EDGE + Bluetooth 2.0
    Camera: 2.0 megapixels
    Battery: Up to 5 hours Talk / Video / Browsing (Up to 16 hours Audio playback )
    Dimensions: 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm
    Weight: 4.8 ounces / 135 grams
     
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  2. omg its nlm

    omg its nlm lvl 17 Hax Folding Team

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    Yeah that is going to be sweet.
     
  3. Grandmaster

    Grandmaster Electronica Addict Political User Folding Team

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    It's got a motion sensor so that the screen and music turn off when you get a call. Slick!

    Also apparently Apple Computer, Inc is now Apple, Inc.
     
  4. one.123

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    im not feelin it
     
  5. Grandmaster

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    Behold, the iPhone
    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070109-8583.html

    Apple turned 30 on April 1, 2006—quite a milestone for a technology company that, for much of its life, has provided endless fodder for an army of pundits who have made a living out of writing its obituary. The 2007 Macworld keynote brings Apple into its first full year of its thirties, and the company is keen to demonstrate that 30 is the new 20, and that the new, post-Switch Apple is as ready as ever to do what it was founded to do: make computers for the rest of us... or, waitaminute...

    Apple at 30+ makes more than just "computers." Indeed, in spite of his famous declaration that Apple makes computers, and "computers have keyboards," Jobs took the stage this year to tout a roster of products that includes software, services, and one very important device that, though arguably a "computer" in a general sense, decidedly lacks the requisite keyboard.

    Not a Mac, but also not the Newton: It's an iPod! It's a Phone! It's an Internet device!

    Halfway into the keynote, Jobs introduced Apple's newest portable gadget, the long-awaited iPhone, by comparing it to two past seminal Apple products: the original Mac in 1984, and the first iPod in 2001. The message is clear: the iPhone is intended to be Apple's next revolutionary product, and it will carry Apple forward on the coming wave of ubiquitous wireless broadband.

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    The new iPhone is a essentially a combination of three devices: a widescreen iPod, a phone, and an Internet communicator. It does not have a keyboard.

    In lieu of a keyboard, the 11.6mm thin phone sports a 3.5-inch touchscreen that is meant to be used not with a stylus but with the fingers. With a new input interface called "multi-touch" that enables the touchscreen to accept input from multiple places at once, users can use the touchscreen to tap out SMS messages on an onscreen QWERTY keyboard, surf their contacts list, select music tracks, make calls, and perform other phone, messaging, and media functions.

    The iPhone's visual interface makes it possible for Apple to provide some new twists on traditional phone functionality. For instance, a new feature called "visual voicemail" lets you listen to your voicemail messages in any order by using the interface to select which message you want to hear. The contact management and dialing software also make it a snap to select the participants in a conference call, and to send group SMS messages.

    The phone also makes use of the same kind of motion detection that powers Nintendo's Wii controller. Photos with a landscape orientation can be switched to portrait simply by turning the phone sideways, or iTunes can move into CoverFlow mode using the same motion. And in another novel interface move, photos and web pages can also be zoomed in and out by squeezing the sides of the phone.

    For Internet, calendaring, and messaging use, the phone features a version of Safari, along with Apple's Mail client and iCal. Safari can render full pages, and web navigation works much like it does in OS X. Jobs also gave a stunning demonstration of Google Maps on the new phone, with the phone automatically picking out the phone numbers and making them available to the user to call with just a touch.

    The phone's Mail client can render rich HTML email, and connect to any IMAP or POP server. In a move that will make the iPhone a viable Blackberry competitor, Yahoo has announced free push IMAP to the phone. Indeed, Google and Yahoo both provide integrated search capabilities on the phone, and Yahoo is using the phone to launch two new mobile services: Yahoo Go and Yahoo oneSearch.

    The iPhone's media capabilities are impressive, and it essentially gives you iPhoto and iTunes in the palm of your hand, complete with CoverFlow. The 3.5mm headphone jack outputs clear sound, and the movies and photos displayed on the phone are very sharp.

    The new phone accomplishes all of these feats by running a version of OS X, though there's no word yet on exactly how "stripped down" this version is. The iPhone's OS X version also makes heavy use of Dashboard-like widgets to provide extended functionality, like weather reporting.

    Other iPhone features include 8GB of storage, a 2MP camera, and support for the following wireless protocols: GSM + EDGE, Bluetooth, and WiFi. The phone has 16 hours of battery life for audio and 5 hours for talk time, video, and browsing.

    The phone will be available to Cingular customers in June at a price of $499 for the 4GB version and $599 for the 8GB version. You'll be able to pick one up at either the Apple Store or your local Cingular dealer.
     
  6. NetRyder

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    Absolutely beautiful device, but sadly lacking in some important areas, I think.
    From my blog post on the subject...

     
  7. Grandmaster

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    Man you are such a party pooper :p

    You have some valid points, however.

    1) I will be shocked if this is true. I seriously hope it's not true!
    2) I guess we'll have to use one to find out, but from the Apple site it seems like they have the screen sensitivity problem solved, so maybe it won't be an issue.
    3) I'm sure people will figure out a way to replace the batteries themselves.
    4) Good point, -points for Apple.
    5) I'm sure people will figure out a way to unlock it ;)
     
  8. NetRyder

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    Sorry... :lick:

    I know. It was very surprising to me too. I hope we can get some official information about this.

    Sensitivity isn't the problem. It's basically the size of the on-screen keys. From initial reports, it seems like they're too small to be used with the thumbs, which makes one-handed operation pretty much impossible.

    Brian Lam from Gizmodo played with one at MWSF and reported back: "Keyboard: The softkey, on screen buttons are small. Think index finger, not thumb. Maybe I wasn't doing it right. The keys pop up when I put my finger down on the keys, but do you think the proximity sensor knows when I get close (but before I touch), and if I hover with my digit, it'll blow up the keys so they're easier to hit? (Am I making sense?)"

    David Pogue of the NY Times: "Typing is difficult. The letter keys are just pictures on the glass screen, so of course there’s no tactile feedback."

    This is also a concern with Pocket PCs (less so on devices with physical keyboards), but it's partially mitigated via third-party apps like Voice Command, TenGo, Smartskey etc...which leads back to point #1 - will there even be third-party apps for the iPhone? :)

    You're right though. Experiences will vary, and we'll have to try it out for ourselves when these things hit the shelves.

    This is true, although I doubt the average user will want to deal with disassembly of a unit that's not designed to support user-replaceable batteries. iPods can be disassembled too; yet most people don't know how or don't want to risk damage, and just send them back to Apple for service. It's fine for iPods, but less than ideal for something that could be your only line of communication.

    This is a trickier situation though. As per today's announcement, the iPhone will only be sold at Cingular and Apple stores, with 2-year Cingular contracts. So the only way to use it with another carrier is to sign up with Cingular, break the contract and pay the $200 ETF over and above the cost of the phone itself, then unlock the phone, and use it with another carrier. The other possibility I can think of is used ones on eBay, since unlike other phones, there will be no way to get an unlocked iPhone through regular retail channels. See what I mean? :)
     
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  9. failurbydesign

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    Sucks for us on verizon since all we get is phones that are "old" and "crippled" i mean i love my razr (after all the hacks) and that does suck spending all that money with netryder's clearly stated issues, people just get too excited and want the best, not waiting for reviews and to see a "real showing" of the phone, not a video...




    Oh and cingular sucks, fewest dropped calls my ass, you cant connect a call so of course you have the fewest dropped calls...****ING jerks
     
  10. Brad

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    Watching the keynote and this thing looks great
     
  11. albybum

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    I suspect that if the battery is locked in and needs to be replaced by Apple, Cingular would give you a replacement phone of some sort until the repaired unit was returned. They have been very good regarding these things from my experience.

    You would probably have to live without your contact information on the phone until it returns, unless Apple plans on writing that info onto a sim card. But I doubt you would be without a usable phone.
     
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  12. Vanquished

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    Yuck...
    Whats the point?
    This seems like a giant waste of money to me.
     
  13. Brad

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    So are a lot of things people buy today. So what? Do people need 60" televisions? Do people need $75,000 cars?

    No. But those items do sell because some people want them. Here is another product that people can buy. Let the market be the judge of whether a product will succeed, not your judgement.
     
  14. Vanquished

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    Well no...
    I will still deem it a HUGE waste of money....

    And people usually buy 75k cars because it is a symbol of status, most likely this is another reason why this will sell, people have to have the new ipod gizmo...
     
  15. Brad

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    Another reason why someone would buy an expensive car would be because it has creature comforts that they like. They don't buy the item because they want you to like it, they buy the item because they like it. I dont think that people are buying apple products because they are trendy, I think they find out about the products because they are trendy, and then buy them because they like the UI.
     
  16. Perris Calderon

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    I've had total touchscreen, the first pocket pc phones were no keyboard

    according to the specs, it has a complete os x?..that is impressive, it also has what I believe is full safari

    good device

    I was thinking about picking one of these up but as far as I'm concerned you need a keyboard if your're planning on doing alot of typing or computing

    500 bucks isn't too much for a computer running os x full...if you can do some of your important computing with it...I can't do that without a keyboard
     
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  17. Brad

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    I agree Perris, the biggest problem that I have about this device is the lack of keyboard. if you are driving down the road and trying to dial a phone number, sometimes it is easier to just feel the numbers with your fingers.

    That being said, they do have the easy scrolling and bluetooth support, so you can just use the voice to dial.
     
  18. Perris Calderon

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    if it's a full os x you can add a keyboard and a moniter too

    pretty cool, a very small mac if you get that keyboard and monitor, maybe a hub and add a hardrive to boot
     
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  19. Brad

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    i don't think you will be able to add those devices due to the lack of input methods, and it is a scaled down version of OSX. The only thing that i could feasibly see is a bluetooth keyboard, but I don't know if that would be implemented or not.
     
  20. madmatt

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    Believe me everyone, $500 is a steal even if it is a "Party Phone" and not a "SmartPhone".