AOHell lives up to its name (again)

Discussion in 'Green Room' started by muzikool, Dec 20, 2005.

  1. muzikool

    muzikool Act your wage. Political User

    :mad:

    From The New York Times Online:
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  2. Johnny

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    I will quit using google all together. Next they will have pop ups and phishing programs .. Looks like http://www.alltheweb.com might become my new start page. Aol always has a way of ruining something. I personally think this will hurt google more than it will help them. Aol is practically out of of business, I don't see why google would want to do this for that reason. Even if it is to fend off M$.

    Look for google to stock to drop from this .. It will bite them in the butt big time .. The main reason they are one of the most popular search engines is because they don't have the stupid add dispays and other junk that comes with the other search engines .. They need to learn the adege: "If it's not broke, DON'T FIX IT !!!!!" ... GRRRRR - I hate AOHELL >>
     
  3. mooo

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    so its going to look like yahoo soon GREAT!! Why do companies do this, google is well off now, doesn't need the extra cash i don't think for the ad's.
     
  4. Sazar

    Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Staff Member Political User Folding Team

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    Google investing in AOL?

    Does no one remember how the last investment in AOL turned out :eek:
     
  5. Grandmaster

    Grandmaster Electronica Addict Political User Folding Team

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    Wow. Google just lost so much of my respect. I can't believe it.
     
  6. Son Goku

    Son Goku No lover of dogma

    It's a pipe dream, but I wish America Offline would die a slow and painful death...

    //rant mode on
    My last dealings with that virus of the Internet was when they acquired CompuServe. I used to be a CompuServe customer from back in the day; well before the web became a main way of accessing it... They said they'd leave the service alone; but AO-Hell can't keep their greasy paws outa things; just too tempting.

    About a year after the companies merged; I started getting every single fricken billing problem that AO-Hell customers had been complaining about for years. It culminated in them trying to double bill me; and then because I only had the money in my checking account to pay the bill once all I'm contractually obligated to do, they suspended my service.

    As turns out, they reversed the charges on the first billing to my card (their fault, not mine) so thought it would be cool to suspend service because my credit union hadn't payed them a second time, for the same bill, in a given month. And yes, the second billing attempt was made before they reversed charges for the payment they did receive. It was the first time I've ever had to go to the Better Business Beureu to get something resolved with a company in the past.

    Sometime latter, the BBB contacted me to report AO-Hell has rebuffed their communications, and they're being put on file as a non-responsive company. Only then did they decide to do something about it, and sent a load of PR bull, in response to having been told by the BBB that this is how they were going to be recorded...

    Latter I did cancel my service with them; but they thought it would be qute to continue trying to bill my check card. I ended up going down to the credit union, told them I closed the account down, and the CU filed out the forms to declare it as fraudulent charges against my card. They said they were reversing the charges for now, and would launch an investigation. If they found the charges to be legitimate, they'd be re-applied to my card, otherwise forget about it.

    So, 1 year latter, the billing dept (which had before this already started, merged with the AO-Hell billing dept; to save from having 2 seperate staffs covering the same thing) decided to send me a letter complaining that my bank won't let them bill my card anymore. They were like "will you pay us..." To hell with that, I cancelled service. I'm under no obligation to continue paying for a service I no longer have. And the worst of it? I never signed up with them. They had a corporate merger with the company I had been a long time customer of at that point... This company has a special place in my heart, and it isn't for things I like...
    //rant mode off

    If google turns into a AO-Hell spam fest, time to find another search engine I guess. Not sure how long it will take for AOL to destroy this as well...
     
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  7. Mastershakes

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    Ad-Blocker is turned on... /shakes continues using Google.
     
  8. madmatt

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    I missed some thing. What happened with the Microsoft-AOL deal? Obviously it fell through, but when and why?
     
  9. muzikool

    muzikool Act your wage. Political User

    You can avoid it, but it's the principal of the thing here. AOHell is cancer of the Internet.
     
  10. Mastershakes

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    Agreed, all hell broke loose when they merged it with the internet in the mid 90s .... hehe

    Will we ever recover?
     
  11. muzikool

    muzikool Act your wage. Political User

    Maybe when cancer itself is cured. :rolleyes:
     
  12. mooo

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    HEY!! I am sad to say i used aol to start with, BUT it taught me about 'mass mailers' and such :p so i can't complain + it got me into VB3,4 & 5.. I sitll don't knwo why anyone would use it today..
     
  13. Son Goku

    Son Goku No lover of dogma

    I can block most adds, between both Proxomitron and Donzilla which includes the ad block plugin for Firefox in Mozilla...

    But the ads aren't the only question this brings up. But with this portion of the article

    what will this do to the quality of our searches? Perhaps the pages that best meet the requirements for what we're looking for aren't to be found on the aohell.com :D domain. What then?

    Web searches, already affected by blogs which might pose a high hit count and show up as favorable (I remember having read discussion of this in the past); could now get effected by the search engine being biased toward AOL pages. What if, in the name of acquiring additional page hits to their domain (which they can then use for increased advertizing dollars), they place this preference for sites on their own domain above what best meets the search request the user has entered in? This directing toward AOL pages, and just how far they'd go with this is what's got me a little concerned with where this search engine might be headed...
     
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  14. NetRyder

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    This was bound to happen. The whole deal was about one thing and one thing only - revenue. And since things can't just go one way, AOL was going to have its way in return for the additional revenue they're going to generate for Google.

    The only thing that's left to be seen now is how far Google is willing to go for the $$$. Are we also going to start seeing "Get Free AOL Internet for 90 days" icons scattered all over the system when we install desktop apps like Picasa and Google Earth? I wouldn't be surprised. It's happened with a fair number of other apps before.
     
  15. madmatt

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    Look at the newest version of AIM (Triton). Nice UI, but you have to install all that extra crap and it takes four processes to run it. I guarantee Google will now be packaging their products with AOL shortcuts (and favorites).

    Even though I don't know what happened with the Microsoft-AOL deal I can certainly guess Microsoft wasn't willing to do this.
     
  16. ming

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    heh... what a shame.. google and ipods never had my respect in the first place.
     
  17. muzikool

    muzikool Act your wage. Political User

    What on earth do iPods have to do with this? :ermm:
     
  18. Mastershakes

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    :eek: Nothing, yet everything I guess LOL
     
  19. ming

    ming OSNN Advanced

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    people get hyped up with both like it's a fashionable product that no one can live without and despise rival products.
     
  20. xsivforce

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    My thoughts as well. :rolleyes: