iphone question

**perris** · December 9th, 2008

so the iphone is such a good piece of hardware with some excellant programs to download but I don't want the provider which means I might buy the phone just to play

if I do this can I download the programs through my computer or do I need to use it's native provider to get those programs?

**LordOfLA** · December 9th, 2008

app store just connects over 3g/wifi to download apps - it helps if you have unlimited data.

You'll loose out on visual voicemail though if you don't go with the offical carrier. I believe thats the only feature you'd want to hook up with whoever does the iPhone in the US.

**perris** · December 9th, 2008

Originally Posted by LordOfLA

app store just connects over 3g/wifi to download apps - it helps if you have unlimited data.

You'll loose out on visual voicemail though if you don't go with the offical carrier. I believe thats the only feature you'd want to hook up with whoever does the iPhone in the US.

videp voicemail sounds cool but I can do that with any phone if I set it up

I am not going to switch providers there's nothing better for me then sprint but man I love the programs on that phone, so I can just go to wifi and download away?

nice

**muzikool** · December 9th, 2008

Wouldn't you just get the iPod Touch in this case? I believe it does everything the iPhone does, except make phone calls since it's not a phone.

**LordOfLA** · December 9th, 2008

Originally Posted by perris

visual voicemail sounds cool but I can do that with any phone if I set it up

Its not video, its presented as a list of numbers who left a message, you can pick which messages to listen to and delete them using the iphone interface rather than a telephone menu system.

Its not the end of the world though.

Originally Posted by perris

I am not going to switch providers there's nothing better for me then sprint but man I love the programs on that phone, so I can just go to wifi and download away?

nice

Yup

All you need to do now is find an iPhone 3G not carrier locked. You will also need to find carrier unlocked firmware updates too.

**perris** · December 9th, 2008

Originally Posted by LordOfLA

Its not video, its presented as a list of numbers who left a message, you can pick which messages to listen to and delete them using the iphone interface rather than a telephone menu system.

Its not the end of the world though.

Yup All you need to do now is find an iPhone 3G not carrier locked. You will also need to find carrier unlocked firmware updates too.

muzikool told me something I didn't realize, I can just get the hardware minus the phone

can that download the programs from computer?

**fitz** · December 9th, 2008

Originally Posted by perris

muzikool told me something I didn't realize, I can just get the hardware minus the phone

can that download the programs from computer?

well, the ipod touch is just that - an ipod.. the iPhone does have a few features that the Touch does not. Applications that use these features won't work without upgrading your Touch:

* phone (obviously) which also includes SMS
* Camera
* Apple stocks application
* Apple./Google maps application
* Apple Weather app
* Apple Notes app
* Apple Mail app

Now, there is an update for the Touch that costs $20 that brings in the Mail, Maps, Stocks, Notes & Weather apps so, if you get one used, make sure they already upgraded it (or be prepared to pay $20 extra to get the update yourself). So, after the $20 update, you're left with something near the same minus the phone features and the camera (note: you can still put pictures on the iPod Touch - just can't take pictures).

**perris** · December 9th, 2008

Originally Posted by fitz

well, the ipod touch is just that - an ipod.. the iPhone does have a few features that the Touch does not. Applications that use these features won't work without upgrading your Touch:

* phone (obviously) which also includes SMS
* Camera
* Apple stocks application
* Apple./Google maps application
* Apple Weather app
* Apple Notes app
* Apple Mail app

Now, there is an update for the Touch that costs $20 that brings in the Mail, Maps, Stocks, Notes & Weather apps so, if you get one used, make sure they already upgraded it (or be prepared to pay $20 extra to get the update yourself). So, after the $20 update, you're left with something near the same minus the phone features and the camera (note: you can still put pictures on the iPod Touch - just can't take pictures).

does the touch have have an accelerometer?

**lancer** · December 9th, 2008

The 2nd gen ipod touch has all these features minus the phone, camera and gps, otherwise they are exactly the same.

and yes both the first and 2nd gen touch has the accelerometer

and if you did have the 1st gen i believe its only $10 to upgrade to firmware 2.0 which the 1st gen has natively.

To be honest i dont know why you would waste your money on the iphone if you are actually not going to use it as a phone, just buy a touch instead.

Originally Posted by fitz

well, the ipod touch is just that - an ipod.. the iPhone does have a few features that the Touch does not. Applications that use these features won't work without upgrading your Touch:

* phone (obviously) which also includes SMS
* Camera
* Apple stocks application
* Apple./Google maps application
* Apple Weather app
* Apple Notes app
* Apple Mail app

Now, there is an update for the Touch that costs $20 that brings in the Mail, Maps, Stocks, Notes & Weather apps so, if you get one used, make sure they already upgraded it (or be prepared to pay $20 extra to get the update yourself). So, after the $20 update, you're left with something near the same minus the phone features and the camera (note: you can still put pictures on the iPod Touch - just can't take pictures).

**Evil Marge** · December 9th, 2008

I couldn't live without my iPod Touch, I can browse the internet, check my emails, the weather, read the news, listen to music, I sometimes just sit spinning the accelerometer, I play games, watch videos or the BBC iPlayer (for UK peeps only) view my holiday snaps, and much much more. I can even dress it up in sexy skins and adorn it with little charms if I so choose. Today mine is sporting a pretty pink silicon number with a silver letter A charm similar to the one below

**lancer** · December 10th, 2008

Originally Posted by Evil Marge

I couldn't live without my iPod Touch, I can browse the internet, check my emails, the weather, read the news, listen to music, I sometimes just sit spinning the accelerometer, I play games, watch videos or the BBC iPlayer (for UK peeps only) view my holiday snaps, and much much more. I can even dress it up in sexy skins and adorn it with little charms if I so choose. Today mine is sporting a pretty pink silicon number with a silver letter A charm similar to the one below

wow someone really does love you little touch.

**Sazar** · December 10th, 2008

Two apps dominate my usage of my phone.

Shazam and Orb. Orb is the greatest app I have used thus far (besides Shazam).

I mean, LIVE streaming tv, anywhere I go that has at least full strength Edge or better.

**fitz** · December 10th, 2008

Saz, you need a tuner card in the PC to do live TV do you not?

**lancer** · December 10th, 2008

i believe so, its a cool tool, but you can also just put movie in it and stream those as well.

**Sazar** · December 10th, 2008

Originally Posted by fitz

Saz, you need a tuner card in the PC to do live TV do you not?

Yes, but I have 2.

And you also need a card which can stream in a particular format, which both mine do.

Gigabot · December 14th, 2008

Originally Posted by perris

does the touch have have an accelerometer?

Yes, the iPod Touch also has an accelerometer. The new iPod Touch 2G has a faster processor than the iPhones.

In response to your original question, you can't get an iPhone without activating it because AT&T doesn't allow that. You can buy iPhones that are unlocked and being sold online but those are expensive and you'd be better off getting an iPod Touch 2G since you said you aren't using the phone features.

Mizzle · December 14th, 2008

You could of course also buy one from one of the few countries that sell it without a contract

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,231 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	iphone question so the iphone is such a good piece of hardware with some excellant programs to download but I don't want the provider which means I might buy the phone just to play if I do this can I download the programs through my computer or do I need to use it's native provider to get those programs? IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

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LordOfLA Godlike! Joined: February 2004 Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 4137 Power: 209	Re: iphone question app store just connects over 3g/wifi to download apps - it helps if you have unlimited data. You'll loose out on visual voicemail though if you don't go with the offical carrier. I believe thats the only feature you'd want to hook up with whoever does the iPhone in the US. If HK-47 and GLaDOS had a child, the character they create would cause the video game world to overdose on awesome. -sheridanmovieguy: Dragon age forum user.

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,231 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	Re: iphone question Originally Posted by LordOfLA app store just connects over 3g/wifi to download apps - it helps if you have unlimited data. You'll loose out on visual voicemail though if you don't go with the offical carrier. I believe thats the only feature you'd want to hook up with whoever does the iPhone in the US. videp voicemail sounds cool but I can do that with any phone if I set it up I am not going to switch providers there's nothing better for me then sprint but man I love the programs on that phone, so I can just go to wifi and download away? nice IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

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muzikool Act your wage. Joined: December 2001 Location: Texas, USA Reputation: Yes, please. Posts: 7,626 Reputation: 2900 Power: 229	Re: iphone question Wouldn't you just get the iPod Touch in this case? I believe it does everything the iPhone does, except make phone calls since it's not a phone.

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LordOfLA Godlike! Joined: February 2004 Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 4137 Power: 209	Re: iphone question Originally Posted by perris visual voicemail sounds cool but I can do that with any phone if I set it up Its not video, its presented as a list of numbers who left a message, you can pick which messages to listen to and delete them using the iphone interface rather than a telephone menu system. Its not the end of the world though. Originally Posted by perris I am not going to switch providers there's nothing better for me then sprint but man I love the programs on that phone, so I can just go to wifi and download away? nice Yup All you need to do now is find an iPhone 3G not carrier locked. You will also need to find carrier unlocked firmware updates too. If HK-47 and GLaDOS had a child, the character they create would cause the video game world to overdose on awesome. -sheridanmovieguy: Dragon age forum user.

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December 9th, 2008	Top \| #6
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,231 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	Re: iphone question Originally Posted by LordOfLA Its not video, its presented as a list of numbers who left a message, you can pick which messages to listen to and delete them using the iphone interface rather than a telephone menu system. Its not the end of the world though. Yup All you need to do now is find an iPhone 3G not carrier locked. You will also need to find carrier unlocked firmware updates too. muzikool told me something I didn't realize, I can just get the hardware minus the phone can that download the programs from computer? IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

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fitz *XPista7eopardix Joined: April 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 4,014 Reputation: 2947 Power: 164**	Re: iphone question Originally Posted by perris muzikool told me something I didn't realize, I can just get the hardware minus the phone can that download the programs from computer? well, the ipod touch is just that - an ipod.. the iPhone does have a few features that the Touch does not. Applications that use these features won't work without upgrading your Touch: * phone (obviously) which also includes SMS * Camera * Apple stocks application * Apple./Google maps application * Apple Weather app * Apple Notes app * Apple Mail app Now, there is an update for the Touch that costs $20 that brings in the Mail, Maps, Stocks, Notes & Weather apps so, if you get one used, make sure they already upgraded it (or be prepared to pay $20 extra to get the update yourself). So, after the $20 update, you're left with something near the same minus the phone features and the camera (note: you can still put pictures on the iPod Touch - just can't take pictures). Hee-hee! Evil makes my buttocks tingle.

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,231 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	Re: iphone question Originally Posted by fitz well, the ipod touch is just that - an ipod.. the iPhone does have a few features that the Touch does not. Applications that use these features won't work without upgrading your Touch: * phone (obviously) which also includes SMS * Camera * Apple stocks application * Apple./Google maps application * Apple Weather app * Apple Notes app * Apple Mail app Now, there is an update for the Touch that costs $20 that brings in the Mail, Maps, Stocks, Notes & Weather apps so, if you get one used, make sure they already upgraded it (or be prepared to pay $20 extra to get the update yourself). So, after the $20 update, you're left with something near the same minus the phone features and the camera (note: you can still put pictures on the iPod Touch - just can't take pictures). does the touch have have an accelerometer? IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

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lancer There is no answer! Joined: October 2004 Location: FL, USA Posts: 3,087 Blog Entries: 3 Reputation: 1430 Power: 134	Re: iphone question The 2nd gen ipod touch has all these features minus the phone, camera and gps, otherwise they are exactly the same. and yes both the first and 2nd gen touch has the accelerometer and if you did have the 1st gen i believe its only $10 to upgrade to firmware 2.0 which the 1st gen has natively. To be honest i dont know why you would waste your money on the iphone if you are actually not going to use it as a phone, just buy a touch instead. Originally Posted by fitz well, the ipod touch is just that - an ipod.. the iPhone does have a few features that the Touch does not. Applications that use these features won't work without upgrading your Touch: * phone (obviously) which also includes SMS * Camera * Apple stocks application * Apple./Google maps application * Apple Weather app * Apple Notes app * Apple Mail app Now, there is an update for the Touch that costs $20 that brings in the Mail, Maps, Stocks, Notes & Weather apps so, if you get one used, make sure they already upgraded it (or be prepared to pay $20 extra to get the update yourself). So, after the $20 update, you're left with something near the same minus the phone features and the camera (note: you can still put pictures on the iPod Touch - just can't take pictures). "The world has just got smaller now, but people have got further away."

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Evil Marge I Rule Joined: July 2002 Location: Teesside, the land of smog Posts: 6,545 Reputation: 2337 Power: 206	Re: iphone question I couldn't live without my iPod Touch, I can browse the internet, check my emails, the weather, read the news, listen to music, I sometimes just sit spinning the accelerometer, I play games, watch videos or the BBC iPlayer (for UK peeps only) view my holiday snaps, and much much more. I can even dress it up in sexy skins and adorn it with little charms if I so choose. Today mine is sporting a pretty pink silicon number with a silver letter A charm similar to the one below . Google+

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lancer There is no answer! Joined: October 2004 Location: FL, USA Posts: 3,087 Blog Entries: 3 Reputation: 1430 Power: 134	Re: iphone question Originally Posted by Evil Marge I couldn't live without my iPod Touch, I can browse the internet, check my emails, the weather, read the news, listen to music, I sometimes just sit spinning the accelerometer, I play games, watch videos or the BBC iPlayer (for UK peeps only) view my holiday snaps, and much much more. I can even dress it up in sexy skins and adorn it with little charms if I so choose. Today mine is sporting a pretty pink silicon number with a silver letter A charm similar to the one below wow someone really does love you little touch. "The world has just got smaller now, but people have got further away."

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,880 Reputation: 4110 Power: 309	Re: iphone question Two apps dominate my usage of my phone. Shazam and Orb. Orb is the greatest app I have used thus far (besides Shazam). I mean, LIVE streaming tv, anywhere I go that has at least full strength Edge or better. Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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fitz *XPista7eopardix Joined: April 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 4,014 Reputation: 2947 Power: 164**	Re: iphone question Saz, you need a tuner card in the PC to do live TV do you not? Hee-hee! Evil makes my buttocks tingle.

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lancer There is no answer! Joined: October 2004 Location: FL, USA Posts: 3,087 Blog Entries: 3 Reputation: 1430 Power: 134	Re: iphone question i believe so, its a cool tool, but you can also just put movie in it and stream those as well. "The world has just got smaller now, but people have got further away."

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,880 Reputation: 4110 Power: 309	Re: iphone question Originally Posted by fitz Saz, you need a tuner card in the PC to do live TV do you not? Yes, but I have 2. And you also need a card which can stream in a particular format, which both mine do. Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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Gigabot OSNN Senior Addict Joined: December 2008 Location: USA Posts: 406 Reputation: 110 Power: 44	Re: iphone question Originally Posted by perris does the touch have have an accelerometer? Yes, the iPod Touch also has an accelerometer. The new iPod Touch 2G has a faster processor than the iPhones. In response to your original question, you can't get an iPhone without activating it because AT&T doesn't allow that. You can buy iPhones that are unlocked and being sold online but those are expensive and you'd be better off getting an iPod Touch 2G since you said you aren't using the phone features.