I hate media libraries

**BouncingSoul** · August 27th, 2008

Title speaks for itself. I understand why ipods and zunes use the concept of a library but I don't have to like it. All I want to know is once all my stuff is copied over am I safe to delete some of these files from my PC? Or will they then be removed from the Zune next time I plug it in? Seems simple enough but I really want to know before I lose half my collection cause its relocated off my pc.

**Johnny** · August 27th, 2008

They will only be deleted if you have your program you are using to transfer the files set to automatically update the device once it is plugged in - Like itunes has for example ....

The reason for the is because it will automatically update the library. If you have no files on the computer, there is nothing in the library to update, so it will erase all you have your device. I learned this the hard way lol.

**BouncingSoul** · August 27th, 2008

Thanks Johnny. Reps.

Nice dead man's hand by the way.

**Grandmaster** · August 27th, 2008

On the iPod, if you use an alternative to iTunes (I recommend floola) you can avoid accidentally erasing your library.

**BouncingSoul** · August 27th, 2008

I got a Zune actually. And I just found out the hard way that once you get your stuff synced, all your date modified flags get reset to when it was synced. So much for easily knowing my most recent downloads.

**ray_gillespie** · August 27th, 2008

Originally Posted by BouncingSoul

Nice dead man's hand by the way.

Yeah WB Hicock was a legend! Nice sig/avatar

**kcnychief** · August 27th, 2008

Somewhat related - anyone know why a song would play in iTunes but on the ipod it just skips right over it?

jonny813 · August 27th, 2008

Originally Posted by kcnychief

Somewhat related - anyone know why a song would play in iTunes but on the ipod it just skips right over it?

Don't know what causes it but it can be fixed by re-encoding it, through Audacity for example. Had this is issue for several songs and that sorted them, be sure to have the lame_enc.dll file handy for .mp3 (freely obtainable)

As for issues with syncing, when you plug an iPod in and it appears in iTunes, there should be a checkbox for Manually manage my music (or to that effect), check it.

**BouncingSoul** · September 2nd, 2008

See this is what I'm talking about.

The Zune software is pretty slick, I like it more than iTunes but that's more cause iTunes is garbage. Anyway, I have this song on my Zune that I can't get rid of. It removed it from the library (or collection and Zune calls it) and I resynced but its still there. I tried to manaually browse to it and delete it but it never actually gets removed. It says it is, but its still there. Why oh why can't we just get a simple drag and drop interface?

**kcnychief** · September 6th, 2008

Bouncing - have you tried formatting or reseting your Zune? Theoretically everything is backed up on your PC and if the song doesn't exist there it should be fine. P.I.T.A. I agree, but should fix your issue.

I haven't tried the fix above yet, hope to soon. Will post back with results!

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BouncingSoul Stranger Than Fiction Joined: January 2004 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 1,289 Reputation: 877 Power: 122	I hate media libraries Title speaks for itself. I understand why ipods and zunes use the concept of a library but I don't have to like it. All I want to know is once all my stuff is copied over am I safe to delete some of these files from my PC? Or will they then be removed from the Zune next time I plug it in? Seems simple enough but I really want to know before I lose half my collection cause its relocated off my pc.

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Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,869 Reputation: 2369 Power: 173	Re: I hate media libraries They will only be deleted if you have your program you are using to transfer the files set to automatically update the device once it is plugged in - Like itunes has for example .... The reason for the is because it will automatically update the library. If you have no files on the computer, there is nothing in the library to update, so it will erase all you have your device. I learned this the hard way lol. Paul Reed Smith.

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BouncingSoul Stranger Than Fiction Joined: January 2004 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 1,289 Reputation: 877 Power: 122	Re: I hate media libraries Thanks Johnny. Reps. Nice dead man's hand by the way.

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Grandmaster Electronica Addict Joined: February 2002 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 10,574 Reputation: 2960 Power: 260	Re: I hate media libraries On the iPod, if you use an alternative to iTunes (I recommend floola) you can avoid accidentally erasing your library.

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BouncingSoul Stranger Than Fiction Joined: January 2004 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 1,289 Reputation: 877 Power: 122	Re: I hate media libraries I got a Zune actually. And I just found out the hard way that once you get your stuff synced, all your date modified flags get reset to when it was synced. So much for easily knowing my most recent downloads.

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ray_gillespie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: March 2002 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 1,692 Reputation: 1420 Power: 155	Re: I hate media libraries Originally Posted by BouncingSoul Nice dead man's hand by the way. Yeah WB Hicock was a legend! Nice sig/avatar

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 305	Re: I hate media libraries Somewhat related - anyone know why a song would play in iTunes but on the ipod it just skips right over it? XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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jonny813 OSNN Addict Joined: December 2006 Posts: 88 Reputation: 60 Power: 67	Re: I hate media libraries Originally Posted by kcnychief Somewhat related - anyone know why a song would play in iTunes but on the ipod it just skips right over it? Don't know what causes it but it can be fixed by re-encoding it, through Audacity for example. Had this is issue for several songs and that sorted them, be sure to have the lame_enc.dll file handy for .mp3 (freely obtainable) As for issues with syncing, when you plug an iPod in and it appears in iTunes, there should be a checkbox for Manually manage my music (or to that effect), check it. Samsung Q210 Intel Core 2 Duo (Centrino 2) P8400 @ 2.26Ghz - 5.2 3GB Samsung 666Mhz RAM - 5.9 nVidia GeForce 9200M GS - 4.4(Aero), 5.1(Gaming) 320GB HD (5,400RPM) - 5.3 Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 (32bit)

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BouncingSoul Stranger Than Fiction Joined: January 2004 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 1,289 Reputation: 877 Power: 122	Re: I hate media libraries See this is what I'm talking about. The Zune software is pretty slick, I like it more than iTunes but that's more cause iTunes is garbage. Anyway, I have this song on my Zune that I can't get rid of. It removed it from the library (or collection and Zune calls it) and I resynced but its still there. I tried to manaually browse to it and delete it but it never actually gets removed. It says it is, but its still there. Why oh why can't we just get a simple drag and drop interface?

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 305	Re: I hate media libraries Bouncing - have you tried formatting or reseting your Zune? Theoretically everything is backed up on your PC and if the song doesn't exist there it should be fine. P.I.T.A. I agree, but should fix your issue. I haven't tried the fix above yet, hope to soon. Will post back with results! XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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