ATI and games on Xp

September 23rd, 2002

Howdy guys.
I cannot seem to get any older games eg. Red Alert 2, Tribes 2 etc to work since I have installed Xp. I get sound but no video.
Check for update but ati just says driver on xp disk.

System: p3 700mhz
256k ram
120gb HD
Win Xp pro

Any help would be greatly appreciated
thanx

**Kr0m** · September 24th, 2002

Which ATI card?

**Sazar** · September 24th, 2002

if you did a clean install best thing to do would be to rollback or to manually install your original drivers...

if they work, keep them or update to the next set... and so on so forth till you get to a set of drivers that don't work... if they don't work rollback to older drivers that do work...

newest drivers are not always the best...

BenQuilter · September 24th, 2002

i think i read somewhere (concerning tribes 2) that you had to reinstall it everytime you changed drivers, and its done some crazy things on me before.

koko · September 24th, 2002

ati is notorious for having flaky cards and even more flaky drivers. next time you upgrade, try buying an nvidia brand of card. less hassle with them.

September 24th, 2002

errr wtf.

Sometimes i think i should have brought a Nvidia 4600, then i remember that my card kicks it ass off the face of the planet at high resolutions with full antianalising and I feel much better.

**Sazar** · September 24th, 2002

seriously... the amount of bs that goes around concerning ati cards... and their drivers

they currently have most of the team that originally came up with the dets for nvidia... so their catalyst drivers over the past year have been as flaky as the friggin dets...

get your facts right..

there are issues with certain drivers... the latest ones are not always the best...

I have not had any driver problems with ANY drivers for my card... or the pci radeon 7200 sdr card I had before...

dogstar41 has driver problems yes... does not mean drivers are faulty... different setups react differently...

personally I would uninstall all vid drivers and install from installation disk the original drivers... even if it says unsupported by winxp... that makes no difference... thats what I did with my old radeon 7200... I rolled back to the original drivers...

**Sazar** · September 24th, 2002

Originally posted by NegativeFactor
errr wtf.

Sometimes i think i should have brought a Nvidia 4600, then i remember that my card kicks it ass off the face of the planet at high resolutions with full antianalising and I feel much better.

I wanna see what happens when I get my 9700 this week

September 24th, 2002

what ATI card do you have?

btw I have a Radeon 8500 and it works great.. no complaints from a former Nvidia user...

September 24th, 2002

Originally posted by Sazar
I wanna see what happens when I get my 9700 this week

]

Would you think that FPS would make a large difference between say 800 * 600 and 1280 * 1024?

Yes you proberly would.

But not with the Radeon 9700 Pro, i ran the UT2K3 benchmark at both these resolutions and got pretty much the exact same result!!

I've been a 100% Nvidia user in the past, but i don't regret going over to the (dark) ATI side.

**Sazar** · September 24th, 2002

thats what I hear

utterly playable ut2k3 even with AA turned on...

in fact still mostly playable with max everything settings and max AA turned on..

now THAT is incredible....

pity AGP ports are such a friggin bottleneck..

**Kr0m** · September 24th, 2002

I'm not one for upgrading my hardware everytime something new comes out, since I don't have the cash flow for that. I've been using the same Radeon 32MB card for well over a year now without any problems. Keep in mind I don't play the latest and greatest games either, but for what I do use it for, the latest ATI released drivers run fine.

koko · September 25th, 2002

uh, i get my information from the official ati site.

check it out here.

September 25th, 2002

And i bet there isn't similar pages on each of the sites for graphics card manufactures that use the Nivdia chipsets.

Get off the Nvidia high horse man, just except that ATI may, or already have, become the better of the two rival companies.

September 25th, 2002

Negative, get off the ATI highhorse. Just accept that both companies are going to be constantly switching positions of who has the best card. First it was NVIDIA, then it was ATI, then it was NVIDIA, now it's ATI, next it will NVIDIA. It's the way it has been and it will, more than likely, continue that way.

September 25th, 2002

ZipTrix get off the "Get of the Highhorse" highhorse. That's my highhorse.

September 25th, 2002

lol

highhorse wars....

September 25th, 2002

Ati Rage fury maxx
Sorry forgot to put that in thanx

September 26th, 2002

And this is coming from the person who stated:

Sometimes i think i should have brought a Nvidia 4600, then i remember that my card kicks it ass off the face of the planet at high resolutions with full antianalising and I feel much better.

Having a bad case of the "mine is bigger then yours" syndrome?

September 26th, 2002

Yeah mate I think so, my penis is particualy tiny tho!

September 23rd, 2002	Top \| #1
dogstar41 Unregistered Posts: n/a	ATI and games on Xp Howdy guys. I cannot seem to get any older games eg. Red Alert 2, Tribes 2 etc to work since I have installed Xp. I get sound but no video. Check for update but ati just says driver on xp disk. System: p3 700mhz 256k ram 120gb HD Win Xp pro Any help would be greatly appreciated thanx

September 24th, 2002	Top \| #3
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	if you did a clean install best thing to do would be to rollback or to manually install your original drivers... if they work, keep them or update to the next set... and so on so forth till you get to a set of drivers that don't work... if they don't work rollback to older drivers that do work... newest drivers are not always the best... Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

September 24th, 2002	Top \| #7
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	seriously... the amount of bs that goes around concerning ati cards... and their drivers they currently have most of the team that originally came up with the dets for nvidia... so their catalyst drivers over the past year have been as flaky as the friggin dets... get your facts right.. there are issues with certain drivers... the latest ones are not always the best... I have not had any driver problems with ANY drivers for my card... or the pci radeon 7200 sdr card I had before... dogstar41 has driver problems yes... does not mean drivers are faulty... different setups react differently... personally I would uninstall all vid drivers and install from installation disk the original drivers... even if it says unsupported by winxp... that makes no difference... thats what I did with my old radeon 7200... I rolled back to the original drivers... Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

September 24th, 2002	Top \| #8
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	Originally posted by NegativeFactor errr wtf. Sometimes i think i should have brought a Nvidia 4600, then i remember that my card kicks it ass off the face of the planet at high resolutions with full antianalising and I feel much better. I wanna see what happens when I get my 9700 this week Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

September 24th, 2002	Top \| #10
NegativeFactor Unregistered Posts: n/a	Originally posted by Sazar I wanna see what happens when I get my 9700 this week ] Would you think that FPS would make a large difference between say 800 * 600 and 1280 * 1024? Yes you proberly would. But not with the Radeon 9700 Pro, i ran the UT2K3 benchmark at both these resolutions and got pretty much the exact same result!! I've been a 100% Nvidia user in the past, but i don't regret going over to the (dark) ATI side.

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September 24th, 2002	Top \| #2
Kr0m OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: December 2001 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 1,390 Reputation: 290 Power: 143	Which ATI card?

September 24th, 2002	Top \| #4
BenQuilter OSNN Senior Addict Joined: March 2002 Posts: 284 Reputation: 0 Power: 126	i think i read somewhere (concerning tribes 2) that you had to reinstall it everytime you changed drivers, and its done some crazy things on me before.

September 24th, 2002	Top \| #5
koko Got Root? Joined: February 2004 Location: Columbia, S.C. Posts: 577 Reputation: 0 Power: 107	ati is notorious for having flaky cards and even more flaky drivers. next time you upgrade, try buying an nvidia brand of card. less hassle with them.

September 24th, 2002	Top \| #6
NegativeFactor Unregistered Posts: n/a	errr wtf. Sometimes i think i should have brought a Nvidia 4600, then i remember that my card kicks it ass off the face of the planet at high resolutions with full antianalising and I feel much better.

September 24th, 2002	Top \| #9
RobbieSan Unregistered Posts: n/a	what ATI card do you have? btw I have a Radeon 8500 and it works great.. no complaints from a former Nvidia user...

September 24th, 2002	Top \| #11
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	thats what I hear utterly playable ut2k3 even with AA turned on... in fact still mostly playable with max everything settings and max AA turned on.. now THAT is incredible.... pity AGP ports are such a friggin bottleneck.. Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

September 24th, 2002	Top \| #12
Kr0m OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: December 2001 Location: Turtle Island Posts: 1,390 Reputation: 290 Power: 143	I'm not one for upgrading my hardware everytime something new comes out, since I don't have the cash flow for that. I've been using the same Radeon 32MB card for well over a year now without any problems. Keep in mind I don't play the latest and greatest games either, but for what I do use it for, the latest ATI released drivers run fine.

September 25th, 2002	Top \| #13
koko Got Root? Joined: February 2004 Location: Columbia, S.C. Posts: 577 Reputation: 0 Power: 107	uh, i get my information from the official ati site. check it out here.

September 25th, 2002	Top \| #14
NegativeFactor Unregistered Posts: n/a	And i bet there isn't similar pages on each of the sites for graphics card manufactures that use the Nivdia chipsets. Get off the Nvidia high horse man, just except that ATI may, or already have, become the better of the two rival companies.

September 25th, 2002	Top \| #15
ZipTriX Unregistered Posts: n/a	Negative, get off the ATI highhorse. Just accept that both companies are going to be constantly switching positions of who has the best card. First it was NVIDIA, then it was ATI, then it was NVIDIA, now it's ATI, next it will NVIDIA. It's the way it has been and it will, more than likely, continue that way.

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NegativeFactor Unregistered Posts: n/a	ZipTrix get off the "Get of the Highhorse" highhorse. That's my highhorse.

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dogstar41 Unregistered Posts: n/a	Ati Rage fury maxx Sorry forgot to put that in thanx

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ZipTriX Unregistered Posts: n/a	And this is coming from the person who stated: Sometimes i think i should have brought a Nvidia 4600, then i remember that my card kicks it ass off the face of the planet at high resolutions with full antianalising and I feel much better. Having a bad case of the "mine is bigger then yours" syndrome?

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NegativeFactor Unregistered Posts: n/a	Yeah mate I think so, my penis is particualy tiny tho!