Intel developing next-generation Power Mac

**muzikool** · December 28th, 2005

The following was posted by AppleInsider:

In a move that may surprise some Apple watchers, reliable sources tell AppleInsider the Mac maker has contracted the design duties for its next-generation Power Mac motherboard over to industry heavyweight Intel Corp.

Specifically, sources said Intel's facilities in Oregon picked up the project in late-October after Apple sought the chip maker's help in meeting deadlines associated with its accelerated transition from PowerPC processors to Intel chips.

Around the same time, Intel quietly formed an "Apple Group" comprised of both engineers and sales staff, several of which are rumored to have been assigned to the Power Mac project.

With Apple moving aggressively to introduce four Intel-based Mac models in the first four months of 2006 -- iMacs, 15-inch PowerBooks, 13-inch widescreen iBooks and Mac minis -- resources at the company's Cupertino, Calif.- based engineering labs have worn thin, sources said.

By enlisting the help of Intel to design (and possibly manufacture) the Power Mac motherboard, Apple hopes to remain on track to begin shipping the first Intel Power Mac models during the third quarter of 2006, sources added.

It's likely, but not confirmed, that the new Power Macs will adopt Intel's next-generation desktop processor, code-named Conroe, also expected to ship around the same time. Unlike Intel's Pentium 4 processors and derivatives, Conroe will not use the company's NetBurst architecture and instead will be based on a completely new architecture, sources say.

Apple's decision to work with Intel Oregon on the Power Mac design may also have its costs benefits. Mark Margevicius, an analyst for Gartner Research, said any effort by Apple to pass-off its motherboard designs to Intel would help reduce the costs to manufacturer Macs and result in lower prices for the consumer.

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**X-Istence** · December 28th, 2005

I am all for lower costs

**muzikool** · December 28th, 2005

I imagine that will bring costs down. I hope it does.

**mlakrid** · December 28th, 2005

cost = the only reason I have never owned a MAC...

**muzikool** · December 28th, 2005

Originally Posted by mlakrid

cost = the only reason I have never owned a MAC...

Totally understandable.

I'm hoping that one of the results of the Intel switch will be more affordable machines that will give more people a real choice of what kind of computer to purchase.

**X-Istence** · December 28th, 2005

Originally Posted by mlakrid

cost = the only reason I have never owned a MAC...

I believe this is the 1500000000000000000000000th time someone has had to tell you this:

MAC = Mandatory Access Control
Mac = Apple created Personal Computer

**Grandmaster** · December 28th, 2005

Originally Posted by X-Istence

I believe this is the 1500000000000000000000000th time someone has had to tell you this:

MAC = Mandatory Access Control
Mac = Apple created Personal Computer

Bleh. Just like all the people that still type X-box, X-Box, xBox. Damn annoying, but get over it

**mlakrid** · December 28th, 2005

Originally Posted by X-Istence

I believe this is the 1500000000000000000000000th time someone has had to tell you this:

MAC = Mandatory Access Control
Mac = Apple created Personal Computer

Not me...

EDIT: bolded for emphasis...

EDIT2: also, MAC is Media Access Control not Mandatory Access Control... unless specifically speaking of discretionary access control systems not a PCs parts/pieces...

**X-Istence** · December 28th, 2005

Re: EDIT2, MAC == Mandatory Access Control: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO...dbook/mac.html, as well as Media Access Control, but in that case it is still only a number, and thus not a PC part or piece, but rather software again.

So both our terms are true.

And I thought it was you, there must be multiple people then that make the same freaking mistake.

Grandmaster: I won't get over it. There is a big difference, they are two totally different things in Technology. Whereas X-Box is not any different from X-box.

**mlakrid** · December 28th, 2005

I will be devils advocate here...

MAC= abreviation
Mac = proper name
XBOX = proper name...
Omar = proper name
Michael = proper name
x-box.. NOT proper when reffering to an XBOX
same as MAC is not proper = Mac

or O-mar when reffering to Omar etc.... I think you get the idea....

I think thats what GM is reffering too... correct me if I am wrong Omar

**Grandmaster** · December 28th, 2005

Originally Posted by mlakrid

I will be devils advocate here...

MAC= abreviation
Mac = proper name
XBOX = proper name...
Omar = proper name
Michael = proper name
x-box.. NOT proper when reffering to an XBOX
same as MAC is not proper = Mac

or O-mar when reffering to Omar etc.... I think you get the idea....

I think thats what GM is reffering too... correct me if I am wrong Omar

You nailed it

Although it should be "Xbox"

Get back on topic everyone.

**Geffy** · December 29th, 2005

I agree that MAC and Mac are different. Mac is a shortening of mackintosh, and MAC is a TLA (Three Letter Acronym) for Mandatory/Media Access Control

However if you mouse over either and Ctrl+Apple+D you get the Oxford dictionary definition of 'a mackintosh.'

It makes sense getting Intel to develop the motherboard, hopefully means they can pack some cooler stuff onto it

jcim05 · December 29th, 2005

If the cost goes down I think I'll just have to buy a Mac.

**perris** · December 29th, 2005

back on topic;

Originally Posted by X-Istence

I am all for lower costs

I don't think the price of the chip to the company is going to lower price to the consumer

MAC, mac, MACs use a marketing concept of exclusion, whether true or not, they market their product as more refined and a price is to be paid for that refinement...price is part of that...maybe they'll go for a bigger market share and become competitive, but I doubt it

**mlakrid** · December 29th, 2005

Originally Posted by Grandmaster

You nailed it Although it should be "Xbox"

Get back on topic everyone.

Well I apologize for STILL using it incorrectly... but why the heck do they use the ALL CAPS version on the boxs and advertisements?

Sheesh...

**Xie** · December 29th, 2005

Originally Posted by mlakrid

Well I apologize for STILL using it incorrectly... but why the heck do they use the ALL CAPS version on the boxs and advertisements?

Sheesh...

All caps like this you mean? </sarcasim>

**NetRyder** · December 29th, 2005

Originally Posted by mlakrid

Well I apologize for STILL using it incorrectly... but why the heck do they use the ALL CAPS version on the boxs and advertisements?

Sheesh...

Originally Posted by Xie

All caps like this you mean? </sarcasim>

He was talking about the Xbox, not the Mac.
For example: http://www.keithalexander.com/toys/xbox.jpg

**Steevo** · December 29th, 2005

This gentelmen may be settled in a round of CS:S.

Or with mustard bottles at 10 paces.

**SPeedY_B** · December 29th, 2005

For f**ks sake!

XBOX, xBox, Xbox, it doesn't matter... the reason that Xbox can be written in multiple ways is because there isn't another device out there with the same name, where-as Mac is an abbreviation of Macintosh, and MAC is something completely different all together, which is why it needs to be written correctly so that people know what you are referring to.

Now, get back on topic, or have your posts deleted, and your pets stolen.

**NetRyder** · December 29th, 2005

And almost always, anyone with the IQ of a hippopotamus can tell whether a person is referring to MAC or a Macintosh simply based on the context in which the word appears.

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muzikool Act your wage. Joined: December 2001 Location: Texas, USA Reputation: Yes, please. Posts: 7,626 Reputation: 2900 Power: 232	Intel developing next-generation Power Mac The following was posted by AppleInsider: In a move that may surprise some Apple watchers, reliable sources tell AppleInsider the Mac maker has contracted the design duties for its next-generation Power Mac motherboard over to industry heavyweight Intel Corp. Specifically, sources said Intel's facilities in Oregon picked up the project in late-October after Apple sought the chip maker's help in meeting deadlines associated with its accelerated transition from PowerPC processors to Intel chips. Around the same time, Intel quietly formed an "Apple Group" comprised of both engineers and sales staff, several of which are rumored to have been assigned to the Power Mac project. With Apple moving aggressively to introduce four Intel-based Mac models in the first four months of 2006 -- iMacs, 15-inch PowerBooks, 13-inch widescreen iBooks and Mac minis -- resources at the company's Cupertino, Calif.- based engineering labs have worn thin, sources said. By enlisting the help of Intel to design (and possibly manufacture) the Power Mac motherboard, Apple hopes to remain on track to begin shipping the first Intel Power Mac models during the third quarter of 2006, sources added. It's likely, but not confirmed, that the new Power Macs will adopt Intel's next-generation desktop processor, code-named Conroe, also expected to ship around the same time. Unlike Intel's Pentium 4 processors and derivatives, Conroe will not use the company's NetBurst architecture and instead will be based on a completely new architecture, sources say. Apple's decision to work with Intel Oregon on the Power Mac design may also have its costs benefits. Mark Margevicius, an analyst for Gartner Research, said any effort by Apple to pass-off its motherboard designs to Intel would help reduce the costs to manufacturer Macs and result in lower prices for the consumer. Full Story

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X-Istence * Joined: December 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,496 Reputation: 2808 Power: 220	Re: Intel developing next-generation Power Mac I am all for lower costs An engineers technical notebook

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muzikool Act your wage. Joined: December 2001 Location: Texas, USA Reputation: Yes, please. Posts: 7,626 Reputation: 2900 Power: 232	Re: Intel developing next-generation Power Mac I imagine that will bring costs down. I hope it does.

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muzikool Act your wage. Joined: December 2001 Location: Texas, USA Reputation: Yes, please. Posts: 7,626 Reputation: 2900 Power: 232	Re: Intel developing next-generation Power Mac Originally Posted by mlakrid cost = the only reason I have never owned a MAC... Totally understandable. I'm hoping that one of the results of the Intel switch will be more affordable machines that will give more people a real choice of what kind of computer to purchase.

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X-Istence * Joined: December 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,496 Reputation: 2808 Power: 220	Re: Intel developing next-generation Power Mac Originally Posted by mlakrid cost = the only reason I have never owned a MAC... I believe this is the 1500000000000000000000000th time someone has had to tell you this: MAC = Mandatory Access Control Mac = Apple created Personal Computer An engineers technical notebook

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Grandmaster Electronica Addict Joined: February 2002 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 10,574 Reputation: 2960 Power: 260	Re: Intel developing next-generation Power Mac Originally Posted by X-Istence I believe this is the 1500000000000000000000000th time someone has had to tell you this: MAC = Mandatory Access Control Mac = Apple created Personal Computer Bleh. Just like all the people that still type X-box, X-Box, xBox. Damn annoying, but get over it

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mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,338 Reputation: 1410 Power: 126	Re: Intel developing next-generation Power Mac Originally Posted by X-Istence I believe this is the 1500000000000000000000000th time someone has had to tell you this: MAC = Mandatory Access Control Mac = Apple created Personal Computer Not me... EDIT: bolded for emphasis... EDIT2: also, MAC is Media Access Control not Mandatory Access Control... unless specifically speaking of discretionary access control systems not a PCs parts/pieces... Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.

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X-Istence * Joined: December 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,496 Reputation: 2808 Power: 220	Re: Intel developing next-generation Power Mac Re: EDIT2, MAC == Mandatory Access Control: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO...dbook/mac.html, as well as Media Access Control, but in that case it is still only a number, and thus not a PC part or piece, but rather software again. So both our terms are true. And I thought it was you, there must be multiple people then that make the same freaking mistake. Grandmaster: I won't get over it. There is a big difference, they are two totally different things in Technology. Whereas X-Box is not any different from X-box. An engineers technical notebook

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mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,338 Reputation: 1410 Power: 126	Re: Intel developing next-generation Power Mac I will be devils advocate here... MAC= abreviation Mac = proper name XBOX = proper name... Omar = proper name Michael = proper name x-box.. NOT proper when reffering to an XBOX same as MAC is not proper = Mac or O-mar when reffering to Omar etc.... I think you get the idea.... I think thats what GM is reffering too... correct me if I am wrong Omar Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.

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Grandmaster Electronica Addict Joined: February 2002 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 10,574 Reputation: 2960 Power: 260	Re: Intel developing next-generation Power Mac Originally Posted by mlakrid I will be devils advocate here... MAC= abreviation Mac = proper name XBOX = proper name... Omar = proper name Michael = proper name x-box.. NOT proper when reffering to an XBOX same as MAC is not proper = Mac or O-mar when reffering to Omar etc.... I think you get the idea.... I think thats what GM is reffering too... correct me if I am wrong Omar You nailed it Although it should be "Xbox" Get back on topic everyone.

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,258 Reputation: 4333 Power: 291	Re: Intel developing next-generation Power Mac back on topic; Originally Posted by X-Istence I am all for lower costs I don't think the price of the chip to the company is going to lower price to the consumer MAC, mac, MACs use a marketing concept of exclusion, whether true or not, they market their product as more refined and a price is to be paid for that refinement...price is part of that...maybe they'll go for a bigger market share and become competitive, but I doubt it IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

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mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,338 Reputation: 1410 Power: 126	Re: Intel developing next-generation Power Mac Originally Posted by Grandmaster You nailed it Although it should be "Xbox" Get back on topic everyone. Well I apologize for STILL using it incorrectly... but why the heck do they use the ALL CAPS version on the boxs and advertisements? Sheesh... Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Intel developing next-generation Power Mac And almost always, anyone with the IQ of a hippopotamus can tell whether a person is referring to MAC or a Macintosh simply based on the context in which the word appears. http://kunal.kundaje.net