Linux Installation Problems, Assistance Needed

**Nick M** · October 20th, 2002

Allright, so what's the deal!?

I put in my Mandrake 9.0 CD, select boot from CD, then the Mandrake Screen comes up, asking to install, or other options. I prett enter to install, and the screen goes blank, and the caps + scroll lock buttons on my keyboard flash...and that's about it.
Mandrake 8.0 does the same thing; which is funny because both CDs booted my my 333mhz pentium 2 system. Red Hat goes to install screen fine and everything; but I want Mandrake, not Red Hat.

Any idea's why this is going on?

PS. My specs

AMD XP 1900
Gigabyte Ga-7VRXP
1024 MB PC 2700 DDR RAM
IBM 120 GXP
Sound Blaster Live 5.1
Geforce 4 TI4400
DVD- CDRW drive.

scsa20 · October 21st, 2002

funny, never happend to me... try reburning the first ISO and try again o.O

**Nick M** · October 21st, 2002

And If I put in the CD during when Windows runs, a nice menu comes up, with a lot of options. The ISO is fine...

**SPeedY_B** · October 21st, 2002

Try reading through the readme for variables that can be passed on boot, some machines/setup's require special parameters instead of simply pressing enter at the "Boot: " screen

At a guess i'd say its the graphical install, try installing in text mode.

**Nick M** · October 21st, 2002

Text mode goes ok; but I'm having trouble making another partition.

**SPeedY_B** · October 21st, 2002

try pre-creating a partition from within windows with partition magic (the trial/demo should sort you for that) then you can simply select to install within the existing partition, creating partitions is a lot harder without the GUI i agree.

**Nick M** · October 21st, 2002

Ok, thanks for the advice, let me attempt at that, then see how it goes.

**SPeedY_B** · October 21st, 2002

once you've created the empty space in Partition Magic, once your at the point of partitioning in Mandrake you should be able to basically tell it "Dump the o/s in this space", just in more technical terms

**Nick M** · October 21st, 2002

I figured that much; I tried it, but it didn't quite work this time ( THX for all your help Speedy ) I'll try again tommorow. What really bugs me though, is to exactly why the os set up wont run in graphics mode...

**SPeedY_B** · October 21st, 2002

What GFX card you using?
Sometimes this can be the problem, altho you did say RedHat managed to boot a gui install. Linux is very picky when it comes to hardware.
My first linux experience was RedHat 7.0 which didn't support GeForce 2's (they later implemented support into 7.1 about a week later ... gits) so I literally spent ALL day fiddling about with it to only to amount to a 320x240 black and white display, but of course, I was happy with this

The problem here tho is I'm not entirely sure what the Mandrake installer GUI is based on, so I'm not sure how to pin point your problem, as its not like you can install a driver preceding the install, but if you manage to get through the text install ok, everything should be fine.

It's just getting there thats the problem, gotta love linux

**Nick M** · October 21st, 2002

nVidia Geforce Ti 4400.

Red hat does graphical install, but mandrake doenst

I'll partition tommorow, try to install mandrake, and post back here if it works ( or doenst )

**SPeedY_B** · October 21st, 2002

well, the Ti 4400 Doesn't appear to be in Mandrakes supported hardware list, they don't even mention it in the "known hardware" list (listing of hardware that mite work or they KNOW doesn't)

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/hardware.php3
Video card
Manufacturer Model Status Distribution
NVIDIA GeForce 2 Pro Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA GeForce 256 Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA GeForce 3 Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA GeForce2 Go Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA GeForce2 Go 100 Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA GeForce2 Go 200 Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA GeForce2 MX Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200 Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 400 Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA GeForce2 Ti Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA GeForce2 Ultra Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500 Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA Quadro Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA Quadro2 MXR Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA Quadro2 Pro Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA Riva 128ZX 8MB AGP Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA TNT Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA TNT2 Mandrake 9.0
NVIDIA TNT2 Pro Mandrake 9.0

But having said that, I've just checked RedHat.com too, and they don't mention it either.

Obviously this doesn't mean it theres a 100% chance it won't work, like my GeForce 2 and RedHat 7.0, anythings possible.
It just seems odd that neither mention the card, yet it only works on the one o/s.

**Nick M** · October 21st, 2002

Ah. Not supported. I assume that hopefully this is just for the setup, or will my installed Linux appear in text mode too

?

**SPeedY_B** · October 21st, 2002

Possibly, I really couldn't say.
Chances are if it's not supported by the installer it won't boot into gui post-installation.
Having said that, there's always a chance it will ^_^

The nVidia site only seems to provide linux drivers for Mandrake 8.0, so either they seem to think it'll work with Mandrake 9.0 or they're just inept

I think your best bet for the moment is to go through with the
text install and see what comes of it in the end.

**Nick M** · October 21st, 2002

Allright. Speedy, again, thank's bundles. Will try out when I come home, gotta go off to school now.

**SPeedY_B** · October 21st, 2002

no problem.
Just be sure to let me know how you get on, I always like to hear of people trying alternative operating systems.

**Nick M** · October 23rd, 2002

Wah. hahahaha. ha.haha
:

lams desk:::

AHHHH!
Ok, so I do a partition with Partition Magic, it's ok, then then I try to install Mandrake in text mode...and it just freezes at a certain point, then, I turn my pc off, and the system is unbootable. Woo!

So I erase everything, install windows Xp again, leaving about 10 gig uppartitioned space...oh my. Now what

? I'm gonna try to install linux....again

shiatsu · October 28th, 2002

Try checking your BIOS and turn off "plug and play" recognition for the OS. This allows the BIOS to allocate hardware interrupts. Also turn off any shadowing of the Video Bios. Apparently having these two options enabled can cause problems when installing Mandrake.

Alan

October 30th, 2002

Ah. Not supported. I assume that hopefully this is just for the setup, or will my installed Linux appear in text mode too

nvidia cards are setup the same. just install the latest one & once nvidia writes a new kernel & driver for the ti 4400 on mandrake then you can install and reconfigure the (what is it ?) XF86Config4 file, till then your vidcard wont have all of the accelleration thats packed into that card

but it should work

October 30th, 2002

Ok, so I do a partition with Partition Magic, it's ok, then then I try to install Mandrake in text mode...and it just freezes at a certain point

yea dont try to use part7 to partition the space, as they dont have all of the linux fat types implemented in their system. they dont even have the ext3 fat under rh7.2. ext2 is the latest they have

my suggestion is to use the fdisk provided in the installer to set up the disk partition & all.

October 20th, 2002	Top \| #1
Nick M OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2002 Posts: 3,912 Reputation: 370 Power: 135	Linux Installation Problems, Assistance Needed Allright, so what's the deal!? I put in my Mandrake 9.0 CD, select boot from CD, then the Mandrake Screen comes up, asking to install, or other options. I prett enter to install, and the screen goes blank, and the caps + scroll lock buttons on my keyboard flash...and that's about it. Mandrake 8.0 does the same thing; which is funny because both CDs booted my my 333mhz pentium 2 system. Red Hat goes to install screen fine and everything; but I want Mandrake, not Red Hat. Any idea's why this is going on? PS. My specs AMD XP 1900 Gigabyte Ga-7VRXP 1024 MB PC 2700 DDR RAM IBM 120 GXP Sound Blaster Live 5.1 Geforce 4 TI4400 DVD- CDRW drive.

October 21st, 2002	Top \| #4
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 286	Try reading through the readme for variables that can be passed on boot, some machines/setup's require special parameters instead of simply pressing enter at the "Boot: " screen At a guess i'd say its the graphical install, try installing in text mode.
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October 21st, 2002	Top \| #6
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 286	try pre-creating a partition from within windows with partition magic (the trial/demo should sort you for that) then you can simply select to install within the existing partition, creating partitions is a lot harder without the GUI i agree.
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October 21st, 2002	Top \| #8
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 286	once you've created the empty space in Partition Magic, once your at the point of partitioning in Mandrake you should be able to basically tell it "Dump the o/s in this space", just in more technical terms
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October 21st, 2002	Top \| #10
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 286	What GFX card you using? Sometimes this can be the problem, altho you did say RedHat managed to boot a gui install. Linux is very picky when it comes to hardware. My first linux experience was RedHat 7.0 which didn't support GeForce 2's (they later implemented support into 7.1 about a week later ... gits) so I literally spent ALL day fiddling about with it to only to amount to a 320x240 black and white display, but of course, I was happy with this The problem here tho is I'm not entirely sure what the Mandrake installer GUI is based on, so I'm not sure how to pin point your problem, as its not like you can install a driver preceding the install, but if you manage to get through the text install ok, everything should be fine. It's just getting there thats the problem, gotta love linux
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October 21st, 2002	Top \| #2
scsa20 Simonsoft Network Joined: May 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 236 Reputation: 0 Power: 73	funny, never happend to me... try reburning the first ISO and try again o.O

October 21st, 2002	Top \| #3
Nick M OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2002 Posts: 3,912 Reputation: 370 Power: 135	And If I put in the CD during when Windows runs, a nice menu comes up, with a lot of options. The ISO is fine...

October 21st, 2002	Top \| #5
Nick M OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2002 Posts: 3,912 Reputation: 370 Power: 135	Text mode goes ok; but I'm having trouble making another partition.

October 21st, 2002	Top \| #7
Nick M OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2002 Posts: 3,912 Reputation: 370 Power: 135	Ok, thanks for the advice, let me attempt at that, then see how it goes.

October 21st, 2002	Top \| #9
Nick M OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2002 Posts: 3,912 Reputation: 370 Power: 135	I figured that much; I tried it, but it didn't quite work this time ( THX for all your help Speedy ) I'll try again tommorow. What really bugs me though, is to exactly why the os set up wont run in graphics mode...

October 21st, 2002	Top \| #11
Nick M OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2002 Posts: 3,912 Reputation: 370 Power: 135	nVidia Geforce Ti 4400. Red hat does graphical install, but mandrake doenst I'll partition tommorow, try to install mandrake, and post back here if it works ( or doenst )

October 21st, 2002	Top \| #12
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 286	well, the Ti 4400 Doesn't appear to be in Mandrakes supported hardware list, they don't even mention it in the "known hardware" list (listing of hardware that mite work or they KNOW doesn't) http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/hardware.php3 Video card Manufacturer Model Status Distribution NVIDIA GeForce 2 Pro Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA GeForce 256 Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA GeForce 3 Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA GeForce2 Go Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA GeForce2 Go 100 Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA GeForce2 Go 200 Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA GeForce2 MX Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200 Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 400 Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA GeForce2 Ti Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA GeForce2 Ultra Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500 Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA Quadro Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA Quadro2 MXR Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA Quadro2 Pro Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA Riva 128ZX 8MB AGP Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA TNT Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA TNT2 Mandrake 9.0 NVIDIA TNT2 Pro Mandrake 9.0 But having said that, I've just checked RedHat.com too, and they don't mention it either. Obviously this doesn't mean it theres a 100% chance it won't work, like my GeForce 2 and RedHat 7.0, anythings possible. It just seems odd that neither mention the card, yet it only works on the one o/s.
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October 21st, 2002	Top \| #13
Nick M OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2002 Posts: 3,912 Reputation: 370 Power: 135	Ah. Not supported. I assume that hopefully this is just for the setup, or will my installed Linux appear in text mode too ?

October 21st, 2002	Top \| #14
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 286	Possibly, I really couldn't say. Chances are if it's not supported by the installer it won't boot into gui post-installation. Having said that, there's always a chance it will ^_^ The nVidia site only seems to provide linux drivers for Mandrake 8.0, so either they seem to think it'll work with Mandrake 9.0 or they're just inept I think your best bet for the moment is to go through with the text install and see what comes of it in the end.
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October 21st, 2002	Top \| #15
Nick M OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2002 Posts: 3,912 Reputation: 370 Power: 135	Allright. Speedy, again, thank's bundles. Will try out when I come home, gotta go off to school now.

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SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 286	no problem. Just be sure to let me know how you get on, I always like to hear of people trying alternative operating systems.
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Nick M OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2002 Posts: 3,912 Reputation: 370 Power: 135	Wah. hahahaha. ha.haha :lams desk::: AHHHH! Ok, so I do a partition with Partition Magic, it's ok, then then I try to install Mandrake in text mode...and it just freezes at a certain point, then, I turn my pc off, and the system is unbootable. Woo! So I erase everything, install windows Xp again, leaving about 10 gig uppartitioned space...oh my. Now what ? I'm gonna try to install linux....again

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shiatsu OSNN Addict Joined: May 2002 Location: England Posts: 68 Reputation: 0 Power: 96	Try checking your BIOS and turn off "plug and play" recognition for the OS. This allows the BIOS to allocate hardware interrupts. Also turn off any shadowing of the Video Bios. Apparently having these two options enabled can cause problems when installing Mandrake. Alan

October 30th, 2002	Top \| #19
MadHaXX()\|2 Unregistered Posts: n/a	Ah. Not supported. I assume that hopefully this is just for the setup, or will my installed Linux appear in text mode too nvidia cards are setup the same. just install the latest one & once nvidia writes a new kernel & driver for the ti 4400 on mandrake then you can install and reconfigure the (what is it ?) XF86Config4 file, till then your vidcard wont have all of the accelleration thats packed into that card but it should work
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October 30th, 2002	Top \| #20
MadHaXX()\|2 Unregistered Posts: n/a	Ok, so I do a partition with Partition Magic, it's ok, then then I try to install Mandrake in text mode...and it just freezes at a certain point yea dont try to use part7 to partition the space, as they dont have all of the linux fat types implemented in their system. they dont even have the ext3 fat under rh7.2. ext2 is the latest they have my suggestion is to use the fdisk provided in the installer to set up the disk partition & all.
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