WTF, this an odd bit torrent claim

**Son Goku** · January 7th, 2006

When I went to grab the lattest SG1, right on the first page, I saw this little flame war start out. I'm not sure about providing a link here, as the page includes a link to the download, albeit that's not what I'm posting about.

Some people's gripe seems to be that Americans should download something that has aired on TV in the US. From there, they're proceeding to blame Americans for making their Internet slow

Through a myriad of complaints, is also critisism that people should downlad (a TV show here, mind you) as if that's bad (and yet what are they doing at a torrent site). However recording it on the VCR is good

Well I'm grabbing the torrent, but

/mouth drops

If someone is wondering the page, just go to torrent spy, and search for Stargate. It's the lattest SG1, aka season 9, episode 11. The link is at the top now.

Why do Americans have to download this immediately?
Jozxyqk on Friday, January 6 2006 7:34:56 PM

I just don't see the point. It doesn't make sense whatsoever.
YOU HAVE JUST SEEN IT! You don't have to download it RIGHT NOW! If you want to watch it again, you should've taped it yourself. It's much easier.
Now, why don't you stop being so selfish and let those of us who are NOT from America (Australia, UK, Germany etc) download it now so that we can watch it, huh?
Thank you.

RE: Why do Americans have to download this immediately?
chupacabra2 on Friday, January 6 2006 7:47:04 PM

Not everyone in America has seen it. I don't get the Sci Fi channel. Besides, does it really hurt you if there's another person downloading who will soon be another seeder? I thought that the way Bit Torrent works, it's best to have many people working a file.

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Amalthia on Friday, January 6 2006 7:47:13 PM

Hey I'm American and I don't have cable tv, so I have to download if I'm going to watch the show. Besides what you should be complaining about is the people who aren't sharing back. Not the location of the downloaders.

OK, end of story? Not quite...

No Subject
BRYAN_B28 on Friday, January 6 2006 8:21:53 PM

Yes me american , yes i did tape it onme vcr , and now im DL'ing it so I can archive it on vcd - then when i get 4 or 5 eps archived to vcd - then I'll transfer em onto a dvd !!

Yes this may be ignorant , but vcr tapes ware out in time - for instance I taped some season 1-2 eps back when they originally aired . Now i cant even watch the tapes cause theyve wore out so bad , the audio is **** etc.

an why u complain about us amercian ? the more people whom DL the faster speeds everyone around the world gets!

this is BIT TORRENT WORKS,
makes it better for everyone!!

Yes I may be a lil extreme , cause i'll even buy em when there released onto mainstream dvd,

hell I might even buy BSg on Itunes in the morning , who knows

BTW , why dont u guys just go to Itunes an buy em legal for 99 cents an episode>>

Nahh Im just bust'n balls

It continues, and gets more heated, with language (in some cases) I don't think I'll repeat. LOL, this is the first time I've seen, practically on the first page complaints begin about what country the downloader happens to reside in. Discussion latter turns into complaints about how his downloads are slower then the swarm's average, and complaints that Americans are at fault for making his Internet slow...

**perris** · January 7th, 2006

if it took up bandwidth I'd agree with the complaint, but it actually helps bandwidth so the complaint is a little obsurd

**Son Goku** · January 7th, 2006

Yeah, another complaint, which was supposedly also the fault of American downloaders was that there were only 200 seeders and many downloaders at a time before the site I pulled it from had not yet listed it. I guess he pulled it from mininova. Anyhow, the gist was "how dare you Americans download it, and not give it to me, faster and at this moment".

Now that the torrent is more well established (it was first uploaded last night), it's got like 2,207 seeders. Well I'm sorry, but it just takes time for some people to get it, so they could turn around and distribute it further, on a tracker that from the complaintant's own description was too new to have been picked up by all the torrent search sites as of then...

**Petros** · January 7th, 2006

Originally Posted by perris

if it took up bandwidth I'd agree with the complaint, but it actually helps bandwidth so the complaint is a little obsurd

Lol I was thinking the same thing. The whole fight is based on a false premise, which makes it really silly.

**Steevo** · January 7th, 2006

You know I don't even watch TV, so does this make me immune? Or as I COULD record it to my PC am I at fault for not recording it to share? Would me recording it make the internet slower as the cable we have that I don't watch is digital? EEEK!!

**Son Goku** · January 8th, 2006

Lol, this is about as absurd as when this one person was chastizing and totally berated someone for having a gig of RAM in their win2k box several years ago. The claim was the person was a nut, because the RAM would degrade from not being used, cause "who needs that much memory anyhow".

wtf?

I told a friend of mine who had recently graduated as a comp engineer, as well as showed him a copy of the rant, and he was like "yeah, the Internet is full of fools such as this. The memory will degrade and go bad, because who could ever use a gig of RAM LOL"

BTW, when I came home latter in the day and disconnected (with a share ratio of 2.61 mind you), the torrent had over 3,000 seeders by then. It wasn't lacking seeders because greedy and selfish Americans were downloading the file and were making a personal decision to refuse to share it with him. It had far fewer seeders, as, well when I grabbed the file it was about 6 or 7 hours after the show was first on TV. He obviously connected to it much closer to the time it actually aired, and so hadn't had much time for seeding to get underway by then...

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Son Goku No lover of dogma Joined: June 2004 Location: 439 East District, Mount Paozu Posts: 1,980 Reputation: 700 Power: 123	WTF, this an odd bit torrent claim When I went to grab the lattest SG1, right on the first page, I saw this little flame war start out. I'm not sure about providing a link here, as the page includes a link to the download, albeit that's not what I'm posting about. Some people's gripe seems to be that Americans should download something that has aired on TV in the US. From there, they're proceeding to blame Americans for making their Internet slow Through a myriad of complaints, is also critisism that people should downlad (a TV show here, mind you) as if that's bad (and yet what are they doing at a torrent site). However recording it on the VCR is good Well I'm grabbing the torrent, but /mouth drops If someone is wondering the page, just go to torrent spy, and search for Stargate. It's the lattest SG1, aka season 9, episode 11. The link is at the top now. Why do Americans have to download this immediately? Jozxyqk on Friday, January 6 2006 7:34:56 PM I just don't see the point. It doesn't make sense whatsoever. YOU HAVE JUST SEEN IT! You don't have to download it RIGHT NOW! If you want to watch it again, you should've taped it yourself. It's much easier. Now, why don't you stop being so selfish and let those of us who are NOT from America (Australia, UK, Germany etc) download it now so that we can watch it, huh? Thank you. RE: Why do Americans have to download this immediately? chupacabra2 on Friday, January 6 2006 7:47:04 PM Not everyone in America has seen it. I don't get the Sci Fi channel. Besides, does it really hurt you if there's another person downloading who will soon be another seeder? I thought that the way Bit Torrent works, it's best to have many people working a file. No Subject Amalthia on Friday, January 6 2006 7:47:13 PM Hey I'm American and I don't have cable tv, so I have to download if I'm going to watch the show. Besides what you should be complaining about is the people who aren't sharing back. Not the location of the downloaders. OK, end of story? Not quite... No Subject BRYAN_B28 on Friday, January 6 2006 8:21:53 PM Yes me american , yes i did tape it onme vcr , and now im DL'ing it so I can archive it on vcd - then when i get 4 or 5 eps archived to vcd - then I'll transfer em onto a dvd !! Yes this may be ignorant , but vcr tapes ware out in time - for instance I taped some season 1-2 eps back when they originally aired . Now i cant even watch the tapes cause theyve wore out so bad , the audio is ** etc. an why u complain about us amercian ? the more people whom DL the faster speeds everyone around the world gets! this is BIT TORRENT WORKS, makes it better for everyone!! Yes I may be a lil extreme , cause i'll even buy em when there released onto mainstream dvd, hell I might even buy BSg on Itunes in the morning , who knows BTW , why dont u guys just go to Itunes an buy em legal for 99 cents an episode>> Nahh Im just bust'n balls It continues, and gets more heated, with language (in some cases) I don't think I'll repeat. LOL, this is the first time I've seen, practically on the first page complaints begin about what country** the downloader happens to reside in. Discussion latter turns into complaints about how his downloads are slower then the swarm's average, and complaints that Americans are at fault for making his Internet slow...

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,258 Reputation: 4333 Power: 291	Re: WTF, this an odd bit torrent claim if it took up bandwidth I'd agree with the complaint, but it actually helps bandwidth so the complaint is a little obsurd IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

January 7th, 2006	Top \| #3
Son Goku No lover of dogma Joined: June 2004 Location: 439 East District, Mount Paozu Posts: 1,980 Reputation: 700 Power: 123	Re: WTF, this an odd bit torrent claim Yeah, another complaint, which was supposedly also the fault of American downloaders was that there were only 200 seeders and many downloaders at a time before the site I pulled it from had not yet listed it. I guess he pulled it from mininova. Anyhow, the gist was "how dare you Americans download it, and not give it to me, faster and at this moment". Now that the torrent is more well established (it was first uploaded last night), it's got like 2,207 seeders. Well I'm sorry, but it just takes time for some people to get it, so they could turn around and distribute it further, on a tracker that from the complaintant's own description was too new to have been picked up by all the torrent search sites as of then...

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Petros Thief IV Joined: May 2003 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,038 Reputation: 1647 Power: 156	Re: WTF, this an odd bit torrent claim Originally Posted by perris if it took up bandwidth I'd agree with the complaint, but it actually helps bandwidth so the complaint is a little obsurd Lol I was thinking the same thing. The whole fight is based on a false premise, which makes it really silly.

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Steevo Spammer representing. Joined: September 2004 Posts: 2,566 Blog Entries: 2 Reputation: 1630 Power: 136	Re: WTF, this an odd bit torrent claim You know I don't even watch TV, so does this make me immune? Or as I COULD record it to my PC am I at fault for not recording it to share? Would me recording it make the internet slower as the cable we have that I don't watch is digital? EEEK!! Meow. Equal oppertunity hater.

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January 8th, 2006	Top \| #6
Son Goku No lover of dogma Joined: June 2004 Location: 439 East District, Mount Paozu Posts: 1,980 Reputation: 700 Power: 123	Re: WTF, this an odd bit torrent claim Lol, this is about as absurd as when this one person was chastizing and totally berated someone for having a gig of RAM in their win2k box several years ago. The claim was the person was a nut, because the RAM would degrade from not being used, cause "who needs that much memory anyhow". wtf? I told a friend of mine who had recently graduated as a comp engineer, as well as showed him a copy of the rant, and he was like "yeah, the Internet is full of fools such as this. The memory will degrade and go bad, because who could ever use a gig of RAM LOL" BTW, when I came home latter in the day and disconnected (with a share ratio of 2.61 mind you), the torrent had over 3,000 seeders by then. It wasn't lacking seeders because greedy and selfish Americans were downloading the file and were making a personal decision to refuse to share it with him. It had far fewer seeders, as, well when I grabbed the file it was about 6 or 7 hours after the show was first on TV. He obviously connected to it much closer to the time it actually aired, and so hadn't had much time for seeding to get underway by then...

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