Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia

Nick · April 25th, 2005

Spent the last week installing and configuring Gentoo. Just been to see if I can get flash on Gentoo/Linux and found this message from Macromedia:

9. What if I use Gentoo?

emerge netscape-flash
If this fails, you must seek help from the Gentoo community.

Argh, emerge...failed..! Must... seek ...help!

Must just be me then!

**SPeedY_B** · April 25th, 2005

You're probably better off without it. Flash should be banished into an extremely deep well and not let out for sixty-five-thousand years... and a half.

Would be quite happy to rid my install (of any o/s) of it.

**Steevo** · April 25th, 2005

I don't mind it, except most distro's that I like aren't supported unless you want to spend hours......

**j79zlr** · April 26th, 2005

What was the error?

**Xie** · April 26th, 2005

Will be interesting to see what direction Adobe takes things like flash. Also how Open Source friendly they will make them.

Nick · April 26th, 2005

No error, just seemed an odd turn of phrase:

"If this fails, YOU MUST SEEK HELP!"

As far as Open Source goes, there's the GPL Flash Library, although I've not played with it yet. Has anyone had a go with this?

It'll be interesting to see what happens to all the Macormedia products. I know when Adobe took over Syntrillium, makers of Cool Edit, they changed the name to Adobe Audition, but as for the program itself it still has the same look and feel and does everything I want it to. Hope they only improve on the Macromedia products, as I make the occasional forray into dreamweaver.

@Speedy: What's the flash done to upset you?

**Xie** · April 26th, 2005

Originally Posted by Nick

@Speedy: What's the flash done to upset you?

I'm not SPeedY_B but flash is for the most part evil. It's way over used/abused. It can take a nice quick browser and bring your whole system to it's knees.

Ohzopants · April 26th, 2005

I agree with Xie.

Nick · April 26th, 2005

I agree there is over use of it on some sites, but if you're on a quick connection and reasonable computer then it's better to view sites as they were intended. I'm a website developer and the designer I work with does use flash, but sparingly and not for site critical components such as navigation.

I'm not sure I understand the sentiment "Flash is evil". IMHO, it's like anything else, overused or not implemented properly it becomes a problem, but used properly it can be useful.

From the strong comments I feel like I'm missing something though?

**SPeedY_B** · April 26th, 2005

Flash existed, that's what it did.

I see it's existence as being completely pointless and annoying.

RickyC · April 26th, 2005

Just like the Internet itself

**Xie** · April 26th, 2005

Flash can be used for some interesting things, though for the most part it has become like the <blink> tag or out of control flashing blinking images.

**SPeedY_B** · April 27th, 2005

If only it was headed the same route as the blink tag though (ie: indefinitely disabled in most browsers)

However I think it's unfortunately here to stay, I can only be thankful it's existence is plug-in based, and that most o/s's have a delete feature.

**Xie** · April 28th, 2005

Distrubing to see AOL putting it into their new IM client.

April 25th, 2005	Top \| #1
Nick OSNN Lurker Joined: February 2004 Location: North West, UK Posts: 150 Reputation: 90 Power: 76	Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia Spent the last week installing and configuring Gentoo. Just been to see if I can get flash on Gentoo/Linux and found this message from Macromedia: 9. What if I use Gentoo? emerge netscape-flash If this fails, you must seek help from the Gentoo community. Argh, emerge...failed..! Must... seek ...help! Must just be me then!

April 25th, 2005	Top \| #2
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 286	Re: Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia You're probably better off without it. Flash should be banished into an extremely deep well and not let out for sixty-five-thousand years... and a half. Would be quite happy to rid my install (of any o/s) of it.
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April 25th, 2005	Top \| #3
Steevo Spammer representing. Joined: September 2004 Posts: 2,623 Blog Entries: 2 Reputation: 1630 Power: 110	Re: Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia I don't mind it, except most distro's that I like aren't supported unless you want to spend hours......
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Xie - geek - Joined: September 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 5,426 Reputation: 1119 Power: 144	Re: Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia Will be interesting to see what direction Adobe takes things like flash. Also how Open Source friendly they will make them.
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April 26th, 2005	Top \| #6
Nick OSNN Lurker Joined: February 2004 Location: North West, UK Posts: 150 Reputation: 90 Power: 76	Re: Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia No error, just seemed an odd turn of phrase: "If this fails, YOU MUST SEEK HELP!" As far as Open Source goes, there's the GPL Flash Library, although I've not played with it yet. Has anyone had a go with this? It'll be interesting to see what happens to all the Macormedia products. I know when Adobe took over Syntrillium, makers of Cool Edit, they changed the name to Adobe Audition, but as for the program itself it still has the same look and feel and does everything I want it to. Hope they only improve on the Macromedia products, as I make the occasional forray into dreamweaver. @Speedy: What's the flash done to upset you?

April 26th, 2005	Top \| #7
Xie - geek - Joined: September 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 5,426 Reputation: 1119 Power: 144	Re: Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia Originally Posted by Nick @Speedy: What's the flash done to upset you? I'm not SPeedY_B but flash is for the most part evil. It's way over used/abused. It can take a nice quick browser and bring your whole system to it's knees.
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April 26th, 2005	Top \| #8
Ohzopants My mom thinks I'm cool Joined: January 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 166 Reputation: 40 Power: 77	Re: Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia I agree with Xie.
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April 26th, 2005	Top \| #9
Nick OSNN Lurker Joined: February 2004 Location: North West, UK Posts: 150 Reputation: 90 Power: 76	Re: Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia I agree there is over use of it on some sites, but if you're on a quick connection and reasonable computer then it's better to view sites as they were intended. I'm a website developer and the designer I work with does use flash, but sparingly and not for site critical components such as navigation. I'm not sure I understand the sentiment "Flash is evil". IMHO, it's like anything else, overused or not implemented properly it becomes a problem, but used properly it can be useful. From the strong comments I feel like I'm missing something though?

April 26th, 2005	Top \| #10
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 286	Re: Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia Flash existed, that's what it did. I see it's existence as being completely pointless and annoying.
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April 26th, 2005	Top \| #11
RickyC OSNN Addict Joined: September 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 201 Reputation: 110 Power: 71	Re: Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia Just like the Internet itself
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April 26th, 2005	Top \| #12
Xie - geek - Joined: September 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 5,426 Reputation: 1119 Power: 144	Re: Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia Flash can be used for some interesting things, though for the most part it has become like the <blink> tag or out of control flashing blinking images.
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April 27th, 2005	Top \| #13
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 286	Re: Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia If only it was headed the same route as the blink tag though (ie: indefinitely disabled in most browsers) However I think it's unfortunately here to stay, I can only be thankful it's existence is plug-in based, and that most o/s's have a delete feature.
	1. SPeedYB.co.uk 2. CamPortal.co.uk 3. MacIRC.co.uk

April 28th, 2005	Top \| #14
Xie - geek - Joined: September 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 5,426 Reputation: 1119 Power: 144	Re: Message to Gentoo users from Macromedia Distrubing to see AOL putting it into their new IM client.
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