mozilla (firefox) ?

mooo · April 5th, 2005

i remember hearing that mozilla was owned by netscape is that true?

melon · April 5th, 2005

No.

Alright, to be a bit more descriptive, the code base that Mozilla uses was Netscape's code that they made open-source and the Mozilla Foundation was founded. I don't think Netscape ever "owned" the Mozilla Foundation, though, as that would mean that AOL would own it now, as AOL now owns Netscape. However, as we know, AOL does not own Mozilla.

Melon

xtweaker · April 5th, 2005

Here's your answer: http://www.mozilla.org/about/

More specifically the following Quote:

About the Mozilla Foundation

Established in July, 2003, with start-up support from America Online's Netscape division, the Mozilla Foundation exists to provide organizational, legal, and financial support for the Mozilla open-source software project. The Foundation has been incorporated as a California not-for-profit corporation to ensure that the Mozilla project continues to exist beyond the participation of individual volunteers, to enable contributions of intellectual property and funds and to provide a vehicle for limiting legal exposure while participating in open-source software projects. Please consider supporting the Mozilla Foundation by making a contribution.

We thank the more than 500 individuals and organizations who have already made a donation.

Read the July 15 announcement about the creation of the Mozilla Foundation.

Mozilla Foundation Board of Directors:

Mitch Kapor, Chair

Mitchell Baker, President

Brian Behlendorf

Brendan Eich

Chris Blizzard

The Mozilla Foundation is a California non-profit corporation exempt from federal income taxation under IRC 501(c)3. Donations are tax deductible.

**Xie** · April 5th, 2005

And for more useless facts "Mozilla" was the code name under Netscape what is now known as "Gecko" under MoFo.

**zeke_mo** · April 5th, 2005

non-profit corporation

I think that line is a huge deception. I love firefox and have donated before, but people dont realize that non-profit companies still make money, its just not profit. I don't think mozilla is like that but its just a misleading term. You have been warned!!

xtweaker · April 5th, 2005

Originally Posted by zeke_mo

I think that line is a huge deception. I love firefox and have donated before, but people dont realize that non-profit companies still make money, its just not profit. I don't think mozilla is like that but its just a misleading term. You have been warned!!

So what if they make money? As long as I'm not paying for it I still love it!

**Xie** · April 5th, 2005

Originally Posted by zeke_mo

I think that line is a huge deception. I love firefox and have donated before, but people dont realize that non-profit companies still make money, its just not profit. I don't think mozilla is like that but its just a misleading term. You have been warned!!

Yep. They can make $ but are not in the business to make $.

Charitys and most big organizations are like that. I'm not sure about MoFo but alot organizations pay the head folks HUGE amounts $ and still are "non-profit". Kind of ironic when only 1/4(+/-) of $ in actually goes to what it's suppose to.

sweetlu · April 5th, 2005

Is it wrong to steal some bread to feed your family? And say you have a big family, is it wrong to steal a whole truck load of bread? And say your family doesn't like bread, say they like cigarettes. And say instead of keeping those cigarettes say they sell them at a tidy profit. Is that wrong?

**gonaads** · April 5th, 2005

Originally Posted by sweetlu

Is it wrong to steal some bread to feed your family? And say you have a big family, is it wrong to steal a whole truck load of bread? And say your family doesn't like bread, say they like cigarettes. And say instead of keeping those cigarettes say they sell them at a tidy profit. Is that wrong?

That said, they are no longer a non-profit company.

They would need to reinvest into the company, donations go to pay whoever works for them, their expenses, and for product development, advertising and such.

What is a nonprofit corporation?

A nonprofit corporation is an organization formed as a corporation for purposes other than generating a profit, and in which no part of the organization's income is distributed to its directors or officers. Nonprofits are formed pursuant to state law, often under the Revised Model Non-Profit Corporation Act (1986). A nonprofit can be a church or church association, school, charity, medical provider, legal aid society, volunteer service organization, professional association, research institute, museum, or in some cases a sports association. Being formed with the state as a nonprofit corporation does not automatically provide an organization with tax-exempt status. Nonprofits must apply for tax-exempt status at the federal and sometimes at the state level.

**zeke_mo** · April 5th, 2005

Maybe I shouldn't have said anything

**Xie** · April 5th, 2005

If your evil you can become a "non-profit" and keep 99% of all funds that come in (making like 100K+ a year) and pay no taxes at all.

**gonaads** · April 5th, 2005

Hmmmmmm... Why make millions when you can make

Billions!

*Dr. Evil laugh* Muahahahahahaaha!

xtweaker · April 5th, 2005

Originally Posted by gonaads

Hmmmmmm... Why make millions when you can make

Billions!

*Dr. Evil laugh* Muahahahahahaaha!

Meh... Why make billions when you can have MINIONS to do it for you! *even louder evil laugh*

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mooo thecyberninja Joined: January 2004 Location: earth Posts: 886 Reputation: 310 Power: 114	mozilla (firefox) ? i remember hearing that mozilla was owned by netscape is that true?

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melon MS-DOS 2.0 Joined: February 2002 Location: Ásgarðr Posts: 854 Reputation: 420 Power: 138	Re: mozilla (firefox) ? No. Alright, to be a bit more descriptive, the code base that Mozilla uses was Netscape's code that they made open-source and the Mozilla Foundation was founded. I don't think Netscape ever "owned" the Mozilla Foundation, though, as that would mean that AOL would own it now, as AOL now owns Netscape. However, as we know, AOL does not own Mozilla. Melon http://www.xeidon.com / .org / .net

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xtweaker Tweaking Monkey Joined: December 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 129 Reputation: 140 Power: 94	Re: mozilla (firefox) ? Here's your answer: http://www.mozilla.org/about/ More specifically the following Quote: About the Mozilla Foundation Established in July, 2003, with start-up support from America Online's Netscape division, the Mozilla Foundation exists to provide organizational, legal, and financial support for the Mozilla open-source software project. The Foundation has been incorporated as a California not-for-profit corporation to ensure that the Mozilla project continues to exist beyond the participation of individual volunteers, to enable contributions of intellectual property and funds and to provide a vehicle for limiting legal exposure while participating in open-source software projects. Please consider supporting the Mozilla Foundation by making a contribution. We thank the more than 500 individuals and organizations who have already made a donation. Read the July 15 announcement about the creation of the Mozilla Foundation. Mozilla Foundation Board of Directors: Mitch Kapor, Chair Mitchell Baker, President Brian Behlendorf Brendan Eich Chris Blizzard The Mozilla Foundation is a California non-profit corporation exempt from federal income taxation under IRC 501(c)3. Donations are tax deductible. xTweaker The Tweaking Monkey... Please reward good posters by using the reputation system! If you like someone's answer, click the icon under their avatar and let them know about it!

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zeke_mo (value not set) Joined: August 2004 Location: Placerville, CA Posts: 1,965 Reputation: 1290 Power: 126	Re: mozilla (firefox) ? non-profit corporation I think that line is a huge deception. I love firefox and have donated before, but people dont realize that non-profit companies still make money, its just not profit. I don't think mozilla is like that but its just a misleading term. You have been warned!! "My Mind is a swirling miasma of scintillating thoughts and turgid ideas" ~Sam Zeitgeist Money as Debt, educate yourself.

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xtweaker Tweaking Monkey Joined: December 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 129 Reputation: 140 Power: 94	Re: mozilla (firefox) ? Originally Posted by zeke_mo I think that line is a huge deception. I love firefox and have donated before, but people dont realize that non-profit companies still make money, its just not profit. I don't think mozilla is like that but its just a misleading term. You have been warned!! So what if they make money? As long as I'm not paying for it I still love it! xTweaker The Tweaking Monkey... Please reward good posters by using the reputation system! If you like someone's answer, click the icon under their avatar and let them know about it!

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Xie - geek - Joined: September 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 5,224 Reputation: 1730 Power: 175	Re: mozilla (firefox) ? Originally Posted by zeke_mo I think that line is a huge deception. I love firefox and have donated before, but people dont realize that non-profit companies still make money, its just not profit. I don't think mozilla is like that but its just a misleading term. You have been warned!! Yep. They can make $ but are not in the business to make $. Charitys and most big organizations are like that. I'm not sure about MoFo but alot organizations pay the head folks HUGE amounts $ and still are "non-profit". Kind of ironic when only 1/4(+/-) of $ in actually goes to what it's suppose to. tehgeek \| tehgeek \| geeking out to tech \| IRC \| Parted Magic \| A+ Certified Professional

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sweetlu Gasoline Rainbow Joined: February 2005 Location: Canada/USA Posts: 142 Reputation: 100 Power: 91	Re: mozilla (firefox) ? Is it wrong to steal some bread to feed your family? And say you have a big family, is it wrong to steal a whole truck load of bread? And say your family doesn't like bread, say they like cigarettes. And say instead of keeping those cigarettes say they sell them at a tidy profit. Is that wrong?

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gonaads Beware the G-Man Joined: March 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, Bay Area, California Posts: 18,474 Reputation: 4070 Power: 348	Re: mozilla (firefox) ? Originally Posted by sweetlu Is it wrong to steal some bread to feed your family? And say you have a big family, is it wrong to steal a whole truck load of bread? And say your family doesn't like bread, say they like cigarettes. And say instead of keeping those cigarettes say they sell them at a tidy profit. Is that wrong? That said, they are no longer a non-profit company. They would need to reinvest into the company, donations go to pay whoever works for them, their expenses, and for product development, advertising and such. What is a nonprofit corporation? A nonprofit corporation is an organization formed as a corporation for purposes other than generating a profit, and in which no part of the organization's income is distributed to its directors or officers. Nonprofits are formed pursuant to state law, often under the Revised Model Non-Profit Corporation Act (1986). A nonprofit can be a church or church association, school, charity, medical provider, legal aid society, volunteer service organization, professional association, research institute, museum, or in some cases a sports association. Being formed with the state as a nonprofit corporation does not automatically provide an organization with tax-exempt status. Nonprofits must apply for tax-exempt status at the federal and sometimes at the state level. *"I play violent video games, I could snap at any second."*

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zeke_mo (value not set) Joined: August 2004 Location: Placerville, CA Posts: 1,965 Reputation: 1290 Power: 126	Re: mozilla (firefox) ? Maybe I shouldn't have said anything "My Mind is a swirling miasma of scintillating thoughts and turgid ideas" ~Sam Zeitgeist Money as Debt, educate yourself.

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Xie - geek - Joined: September 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 5,224 Reputation: 1730 Power: 175	Re: mozilla (firefox) ? If your evil you can become a "non-profit" and keep 99% of all funds that come in (making like 100K+ a year) and pay no taxes at all. tehgeek \| tehgeek \| geeking out to tech \| IRC \| Parted Magic \| A+ Certified Professional

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gonaads Beware the G-Man Joined: March 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, Bay Area, California Posts: 18,474 Reputation: 4070 Power: 348	Re: mozilla (firefox) ? Hmmmmmm... Why make millions when you can make Billions! Dr. Evil laugh Muahahahahahaaha! *"I play violent video games, I could snap at any second."*

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xtweaker Tweaking Monkey Joined: December 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 129 Reputation: 140 Power: 94	Re: mozilla (firefox) ? Originally Posted by gonaads Hmmmmmm... Why make millions when you can make Billions! Dr. Evil laugh Muahahahahahaaha! Meh... Why make billions when you can have MINIONS to do it for you! even louder evil laugh xTweaker The Tweaking Monkey... Please reward good posters by using the reputation system! If you like someone's answer, click the icon under their avatar and let them know about it!

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