BBC Online Catches On...

Scooter · January 7th, 2005

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4149647.stm

Its about time

**ming** · January 7th, 2005

Yeah, read this earlier this morning.

Seems to me that they're moving towards another eDonkey-like p2p app with the tracker thing on top.

**Electronic Punk** · January 7th, 2005

I like the way they have cropped suprnova.o
so no-one can guess the url.

Love the misinformation tho, osn't exeem developed by some other third party who have employed the webmaster to pimp it?

**Khayman** · January 7th, 2005

I come to realise the demise of suprnova was a good thing, cause loads of people have been reporting the death of BitTorrent, but its barely slowed down. People just moved to other very capable sites. Keeps the idiots away

**sean.ferguson** · January 7th, 2005

the registration on such sites is getting annoying tho.

**SPeedY_B** · January 7th, 2005

Originally Posted by Khayman

I come to realise the demise of suprnova was a good thing, cause loads of people have been reporting the death of BitTorrent, but its barely slowed down. People just moved to other very capable sites. Keeps the idiots away

Amen to that!

Originally Posted by thekore

the registration on such sites is getting annoying tho.

Yeah, 30-seconds of your time for gigs and gigs of free data is SUCH a pain in the arse. Man, damn those registration forms!

**Tabula Rasa** · January 7th, 2005

Originally Posted by SPeedY_B

Yeah, 30-seconds of your time for gigs and gigs of free data is SUCH a pain in the arse. Man, damn those registration forms!

Still, dosen't that go against all the "free sorce! free software! down with evil MS OMGBBG!" crap?

**SPeedY_B** · January 7th, 2005

Ehm, how?

**Tabula Rasa** · January 7th, 2005

Originally Posted by SPeedY_B

Ehm, how?

Because its done in order to make money.
The more "registered users" you have the more you can charge some enlarge your eyebrow company for an add.
As usual the thing that gets in the way of a Marxist utopia are greedy people

**SPeedY_B** · January 7th, 2005

everyone needs to make money, the server's which host these sites aren't free. More users may well mean more advertising based revenue, but it also means more bandwidth and possibly server resources, meaning more cost.

I've never seen a problem with registering for sites in which you can post content to (registering just to read seems a bit pointless) you had to register to post here. Registrations help site owners keep things in check. I see no problem with them.

**Tabula Rasa** · January 7th, 2005

Me nither, more exactly I coulden't care less.
I just find it amusing thats all. We both realize that although no one will admit it torrent, like any other file-sharing thingamabob, is (mostly) used to download pirate software/media.
And although its still cheaper (The internet connection+time+risk+14 help mobamto escape kenia ads) then actualy buying the software/media, you still are paying someone for it.

I rather pay the creator then the ilegal distributor, unless the creator charges to much (MS,Adobe,Symantec,Any other decent software company).
With time prices will balance, and people will stop using torrent, and then all the supernova sites will just die out and their owner will be out of a gold mine - and that makes me smile

**SPeedY_B** · January 7th, 2005

They're really not making that much, Sloncek (Apologies if the spelling is incorrect) was getting over 3.5-million hits per day to suprnova.org at one point, now to support that costs a lot, that's more hits than slashdot. The guy made just enough to support the site from the ads, and maybe enough left over to buy a sandwhich for lunch.

The guy is (or was?) actually in his teens and by no means set out to make cash from the venture. Some of the newcomers to the scene may have jumped onto the "underhand ads = money" bandwagon, but many of them will realise, with the type of sites they're running, it's actually really hard to make a profit.

**Khayman** · January 8th, 2005

None of the sites i use have registration

**vern** · January 8th, 2005

Which sites do you actually have to pay to register at? Lots of BT sites might use registration, trackers, and torrent-passcodes to keep their torrents private, but I have never seen one that required payment.

As for sloncek, he said himself in his interview that when it first started, he just wanted to make money off of websites. Obviously he soon realized suprnova, the site, wasn't going to make him rich. IMHO he's been trying to turn his suprnova success into some kind of profit ever since. Exeem seemed to be the answer to his problems both financial and legal. Bah to exeem! However, I do love all the attention given to it. Maybe it'll give the other sites some slack.

**Steevo** · January 8th, 2005

Yeah, that too.

**Brad** · January 8th, 2005

Originally Posted by vern

Which sites do you actually have to pay to register at? Lots of BT sites might use registration, trackers, and torrent-passcodes to keep their torrents private, but I have never seen one that required payment.

As for sloncek, he said himself in his interview that when it first started, he just wanted to make money off of websites. Obviously he soon realized suprnova, the site, wasn't going to make him rich. IMHO he's been trying to turn his suprnova success into some kind of profit ever since. Exeem seemed to be the answer to his problems both financial and legal. Bah to exeem! However, I do love all the attention given to it. Maybe it'll give the other sites some slack.

what is so wrong about making money off of something that you work hard at?

**vern** · January 8th, 2005

Where did I say it was wrong?

I'm in no position to tell anyone what to do with their work. I am merely stating the obvious. As for exeem, I don't care how much money he makes. May he make millions, but the fact remains that as far as we know, he has had nothing to do with development aside from being it's frontman and using the closure and popularity of Suprnova to market it.

**sean.ferguson** · January 8th, 2005

Originally Posted by SPeedy_B

Yeah, 30-seconds of your time...

sorry i was refering to the more closed form of registration such as invite only

**SPeedY_B** · January 8th, 2005

I've had no problem with those either, spose it's just knowing the right people in most cases, other than that though I've usually just had to ask and I've been invited.

**sean.ferguson** · January 8th, 2005

yeah i know... rub it in

January 7th, 2005	Top \| #1
Scooter Random Apple Dude Joined: July 2004 Location: Northeast England Posts: 244 Reputation: 40 Power: 95	BBC Online Catches On... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4149647.stm Its about time

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ming OSNN Advanced Joined: June 2003 Location: UK Posts: 4,252 Reputation: 1160 Power: 159	Yeah, read this earlier this morning. Seems to me that they're moving towards another eDonkey-like p2p app with the tracker thing on top. Curent system: Intel Quad Core 9450 \| 4GB RAM \| WD Raptor 36GB \| nVidia 8800GT 512mb

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Khayman I'm sorry Hal... Joined: January 2002 Location: England Posts: 5,514 Reputation: 1210 Power: 191	I come to realise the demise of suprnova was a good thing, cause loads of people have been reporting the death of BitTorrent, but its barely slowed down. People just moved to other very capable sites. Keeps the idiots away "I'm on the server side. I don't know what side you're on"

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sean.ferguson OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2003 Location: Fife; Scotland Posts: 1,693 Reputation: 550 Power: 126	the registration on such sites is getting annoying tho. Mac - 13-inch Macbook Core Duo 1.83GHz\| 1GB Ram \| 120GB Internal \| BT & AE \| OS 10.5 PC- Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8GHz \| 2GB Dual Channel Ram \| 360GB Internal \| Lite-On DVDRW \| Radeon X1300XT \| Vista Home Premium 64-bit

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SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 15,800 Reputation: 2877 Power: 307	Originally Posted by Khayman I come to realise the demise of suprnova was a good thing, cause loads of people have been reporting the death of BitTorrent, but its barely slowed down. People just moved to other very capable sites. Keeps the idiots away Amen to that! Originally Posted by thekore the registration on such sites is getting annoying tho. Yeah, 30-seconds of your time for gigs and gigs of free data is SUCH a pain in the arse. Man, damn those registration forms! 1. SPeedYB.co.uk 2. CamPortal.co.uk 3. MacIRC.co.uk

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January 7th, 2005	Top \| #3
Electronic Punk The Last High Joined: December 2001 Location: London Posts: 18,506 Blog Entries: 51 Reputation: 3652 Power: 346	I like the way they have cropped suprnova.o so no-one can guess the url. Love the misinformation tho, osn't exeem developed by some other third party who have employed the webmaster to pimp it?

January 7th, 2005	Top \| #7
Tabula Rasa Stranger Than Kindness Joined: July 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 3,233 Reputation: 450 Power: 154	Originally Posted by SPeedY_B Yeah, 30-seconds of your time for gigs and gigs of free data is SUCH a pain in the arse. Man, damn those registration forms! Still, dosen't that go against all the "free sorce! free software! down with evil MS OMGBBG!" crap?

January 7th, 2005	Top \| #8
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 15,800 Reputation: 2877 Power: 307	Ehm, how? 1. SPeedYB.co.uk 2. CamPortal.co.uk 3. MacIRC.co.uk

January 7th, 2005	Top \| #9
Tabula Rasa Stranger Than Kindness Joined: July 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 3,233 Reputation: 450 Power: 154	Originally Posted by SPeedY_B Ehm, how? Because its done in order to make money. The more "registered users" you have the more you can charge some enlarge your eyebrow company for an add. As usual the thing that gets in the way of a Marxist utopia are greedy people

January 7th, 2005	Top \| #10
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 15,800 Reputation: 2877 Power: 307	everyone needs to make money, the server's which host these sites aren't free. More users may well mean more advertising based revenue, but it also means more bandwidth and possibly server resources, meaning more cost. I've never seen a problem with registering for sites in which you can post content to (registering just to read seems a bit pointless) you had to register to post here. Registrations help site owners keep things in check. I see no problem with them. 1. SPeedYB.co.uk 2. CamPortal.co.uk 3. MacIRC.co.uk

January 7th, 2005	Top \| #11
Tabula Rasa Stranger Than Kindness Joined: July 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 3,233 Reputation: 450 Power: 154	Me nither, more exactly I coulden't care less. I just find it amusing thats all. We both realize that although no one will admit it torrent, like any other file-sharing thingamabob, is (mostly) used to download pirate software/media. And although its still cheaper (The internet connection+time+risk+14 help mobamto escape kenia ads) then actualy buying the software/media, you still are paying someone for it. I rather pay the creator then the ilegal distributor, unless the creator charges to much (MS,Adobe,Symantec,Any other decent software company). With time prices will balance, and people will stop using torrent, and then all the supernova sites will just die out and their owner will be out of a gold mine - and that makes me smile

January 7th, 2005	Top \| #12
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 15,800 Reputation: 2877 Power: 307	They're really not making that much, Sloncek (Apologies if the spelling is incorrect) was getting over 3.5-million hits per day to suprnova.org at one point, now to support that costs a lot, that's more hits than slashdot. The guy made just enough to support the site from the ads, and maybe enough left over to buy a sandwhich for lunch. The guy is (or was?) actually in his teens and by no means set out to make cash from the venture. Some of the newcomers to the scene may have jumped onto the "underhand ads = money" bandwagon, but many of them will realise, with the type of sites they're running, it's actually really hard to make a profit. 1. SPeedYB.co.uk 2. CamPortal.co.uk 3. MacIRC.co.uk

January 8th, 2005	Top \| #13
Khayman I'm sorry Hal... Joined: January 2002 Location: England Posts: 5,514 Reputation: 1210 Power: 191	None of the sites i use have registration "I'm on the server side. I don't know what side you're on"

January 8th, 2005	Top \| #14
vern Dominus Joined: March 2002 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 1,570 Reputation: 660 Power: 143	Which sites do you actually have to pay to register at? Lots of BT sites might use registration, trackers, and torrent-passcodes to keep their torrents private, but I have never seen one that required payment. As for sloncek, he said himself in his interview that when it first started, he just wanted to make money off of websites. Obviously he soon realized suprnova, the site, wasn't going to make him rich. IMHO he's been trying to turn his suprnova success into some kind of profit ever since. Exeem seemed to be the answer to his problems both financial and legal. Bah to exeem! However, I do love all the attention given to it. Maybe it'll give the other sites some slack. free illegal pr0n @ ribbed.us

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January 8th, 2005	Top \| #16
Brad OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: March 2002 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1552 Power: 158	Originally Posted by vern Which sites do you actually have to pay to register at? Lots of BT sites might use registration, trackers, and torrent-passcodes to keep their torrents private, but I have never seen one that required payment. As for sloncek, he said himself in his interview that when it first started, he just wanted to make money off of websites. Obviously he soon realized suprnova, the site, wasn't going to make him rich. IMHO he's been trying to turn his suprnova success into some kind of profit ever since. Exeem seemed to be the answer to his problems both financial and legal. Bah to exeem! However, I do love all the attention given to it. Maybe it'll give the other sites some slack. what is so wrong about making money off of something that you work hard at?

January 8th, 2005	Top \| #17
vern Dominus Joined: March 2002 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 1,570 Reputation: 660 Power: 143	Where did I say it was wrong? I'm in no position to tell anyone what to do with their work. I am merely stating the obvious. As for exeem, I don't care how much money he makes. May he make millions, but the fact remains that as far as we know, he has had nothing to do with development aside from being it's frontman and using the closure and popularity of Suprnova to market it. free illegal pr0n @ ribbed.us

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sean.ferguson OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2003 Location: Fife; Scotland Posts: 1,693 Reputation: 550 Power: 126	Originally Posted by SPeedy_B Yeah, 30-seconds of your time... sorry i was refering to the more closed form of registration such as invite only Mac - 13-inch Macbook Core Duo 1.83GHz\| 1GB Ram \| 120GB Internal \| BT & AE \| OS 10.5 PC- Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8GHz \| 2GB Dual Channel Ram \| 360GB Internal \| Lite-On DVDRW \| Radeon X1300XT \| Vista Home Premium 64-bit

January 8th, 2005	Top \| #19
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 15,800 Reputation: 2877 Power: 307	I've had no problem with those either, spose it's just knowing the right people in most cases, other than that though I've usually just had to ask and I've been invited. 1. SPeedYB.co.uk 2. CamPortal.co.uk 3. MacIRC.co.uk

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sean.ferguson OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2003 Location: Fife; Scotland Posts: 1,693 Reputation: 550 Power: 126	yeah i know... rub it in Mac - 13-inch Macbook Core Duo 1.83GHz\| 1GB Ram \| 120GB Internal \| BT & AE \| OS 10.5 PC- Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8GHz \| 2GB Dual Channel Ram \| 360GB Internal \| Lite-On DVDRW \| Radeon X1300XT \| Vista Home Premium 64-bit