Windows 8 Hell. I really need help.

**Mubbers** · January 10th, 2013

I bought a Sony Vaio laptop for my daughter, which btw is an excellent piece of kit except for the OS....

Windows 8. This was ordered in Nov 7 delivered for Xmas and to be honest I didn't really think to much about Windows 8 or 7 or whatver. I mean what could go wrong with just a newer version of windows..

Any it's crap, not just crap: it's f***ing crap. She's supposed to be using this for school work and it's nothing like the Vista & W7 PC's at school, she can't find anything on it etc. etc. (and neither can I!).

Not only that I bought some games with it and although I have the disks they must have Steam installed to run.

Steam won't install. And I mean WON'T I have surfed the entire Steam support library and tried everything.

So basically I've spent nearly £1,000 on something completely useless.

To further add to the woe Sony themselves seem completely indifferent to the problem:

Thank you for contacting Sony. We are sorry to learn that you do not like the Windows 8. We acknowledge that you would like to downgrade to widnows 7 and you would like Sony to supply you with the installation discs.

In an attempt to clarify our position toward this matter, we can advise you that Sony does not support downgrading from Windows 8 to Windows 7 on the latest fall 2012 models , therefore, the end-user customer is responsible for obtaining the installation media and corresponding product key for the downgrade-eligible OS. If you choose to install another OS, please note the following:

·Sony has not tested your Windows 8 PC for Windows 7 and does not provide Windows 7 drivers through its website.
· If you have a problem that requires Sony support, you may need to restore the original OS, to troubleshoot your problem.

So it seems like I'm goosed. Any ideas with a reformat and load up of Windows 7? What about drivers?

I am so so angry.

**American Zombie** · January 10th, 2013

I have Win 8 64 and steam installed/runs all games.

I also installed startisback so I have my start menu just like in Win 7.

**Mubbers** · January 10th, 2013

Originally Posted by American Zombie

I have Win 8 64 and steam installed/runs all games.

I also installed startisback so I have my start menu just like in Win 7.

I'll check out the app. I know many people can run steam on W864 but I can't

and I'm not the only one with this error mode.

**Johnny** · January 11th, 2013

You can put windows 7 on it without any conflict. I also feel your pain. I was a beta tester for Windows 8 and I repeatedly told Microsoft of my distain for it.

**Mubbers** · January 11th, 2013

I have an iMac. Yesterday I hated it.

Now I'm looking at in a new light!

**Johnny** · January 11th, 2013

Originally Posted by Mubbers

I have an iMac. Yesterday I hated it.

Now I'm looking at in a new light!

Nothing beats a Mac....

**Bman** · January 11th, 2013

Just do a clean install of either 8 or 7, I had no issues as well.

So maybe they messed up somehow when installing it.

**LeeJend** · January 19th, 2013

Response is a little late but:

Win 8 should not have install issues with anything since it is essentially Win 7 with a Tablet friendly interface".
1) Make sure you are running with elevated privileges when installing.
2) Get the crap off the laptop (Norton trials, Sony spyware, etc.) A clean install of Win 8 without the usual OEM added junk is always advisable. Some highly reputable software I just installed advised me to turn off AV before installing. Not gonna happen, but the point is that PC protection is getting so intrusive now that it can block functionality. My new build MB setup installed a bunch of invasive crap I had to pull out with tweezers and a magnifying glass...
3) Install for dual boot with Win 7. Give your daughter a break and try the Win 7 install. Drivers should be interchangeable with Win 8. She should see the same interface on her laptop as the school stuff. Learning is hard enough without having to work around a different OS and "school" is not going to upgrade to Win 8 (corporate roll outs are predicted to be nil for Win 8). Have the boot default to Win 7.

Ahlian · 4 Weeks Ago

Window 8 created many problem for me. When i install it on my laptop than first it tiered me to install the simple drivers and than it tiered me to install simple applications like Skype, so than i decided that i will remove it and install window 7 again.

TheAmazingTechGeek13 · 4 Weeks Ago

Originally Posted by Mubbers

I bought a Sony Vaio laptop for my daughter, which btw is an excellent piece of kit except for the OS....

Windows 8. This was ordered in Nov 7 delivered for Xmas and to be honest I didn't really think to much about Windows 8 or 7 or whatver. I mean what could go wrong with just a newer version of windows..

Any it's crap, not just crap: it's f***ing crap. She's supposed to be using this for school work and it's nothing like the Vista & W7 PC's at school, she can't find anything on it etc. etc. (and neither can I!).

Not only that I bought some games with it and although I have the disks they must have Steam installed to run.

Steam won't install. And I mean WON'T I have surfed the entire Steam support library and tried everything.

So basically I've spent nearly £1,000 on something completely useless.

To further add to the woe Sony themselves seem completely indifferent to the problem:

So it seems like I'm goosed. Any ideas with a reformat and load up of Windows 7? What about drivers?

I am so so angry.

Hi first i will say i got A Star in ICT at school and College. I am qualified to teach people about Information Communications Technology, I am going to help you out.

First windows 8 can only be used in certain areas around the world, secondly it depends on your computers performance, Windows 8 works perfectly on a Intel Core Duo 2.4Ghz and you may need a 257mb video card. Computer software these days are all down to connection and memory avalible on your hard drive. The other thing that may be a problem is the make of your computer/Laptop. e.g. I recommend apple mac computers more than original computers, but as you have windows 8 a apple mac computer will make windows 8 not compatible with the computer. Also make sure you have:
1. Windows XP service pack 3
2.Windows 7
3. Windows Vista service pack 2 or 3

Also games do not work for steam on windows 8, im very sorry. But i might be able to find a way for you to get your games working on windows 8.

The customer reviews for windows 8 is high, but only the graphic and personal content is the only reason why its rated as a good kit. In addition the gaming part of it is very low, the only games you can play on windows 8 are the ones in the windows live store. You may be able to get them on steam from the windows live store, but they wont be free

Hope this works for you mate, if not tell me everything it says when you try to start up windows 8 on a private email @ customersupport.modderexpress@outlook.com and i will do a tutorital with you to make sure 100% you get your computer/Windows 8 working.

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Mubbers Shoot! Joined: December 2001 Posts: 1,087 Reputation: 60 Power: 149	Windows 8 Hell. I really need help. I bought a Sony Vaio laptop for my daughter, which btw is an excellent piece of kit except for the OS.... Windows 8. This was ordered in Nov 7 delivered for Xmas and to be honest I didn't really think to much about Windows 8 or 7 or whatver. I mean what could go wrong with just a newer version of windows.. Any it's crap, not just crap: it's f***ing crap. She's supposed to be using this for school work and it's nothing like the Vista & W7 PC's at school, she can't find anything on it etc. etc. (and neither can I!). Not only that I bought some games with it and although I have the disks they must have Steam installed to run. Steam won't install. And I mean WON'T I have surfed the entire Steam support library and tried everything. So basically I've spent nearly £1,000 on something completely useless. To further add to the woe Sony themselves seem completely indifferent to the problem: Thank you for contacting Sony. We are sorry to learn that you do not like the Windows 8. We acknowledge that you would like to downgrade to widnows 7 and you would like Sony to supply you with the installation discs. In an attempt to clarify our position toward this matter, we can advise you that Sony does not support downgrading from Windows 8 to Windows 7 on the latest fall 2012 models , therefore, the end-user customer is responsible for obtaining the installation media and corresponding product key for the downgrade-eligible OS. If you choose to install another OS, please note the following: ·Sony has not tested your Windows 8 PC for Windows 7 and does not provide Windows 7 drivers through its website. · If you have a problem that requires Sony support, you may need to restore the original OS, to troubleshoot your problem. So it seems like I'm goosed. Any ideas with a reformat and load up of Windows 7? What about drivers? I am so so angry.

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American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,899 Reputation: 2689 Power: 163	Re: Windows 8 Hell. I really need help. I have Win 8 64 and steam installed/runs all games. I also installed startisback so I have my start menu just like in Win 7.

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Mubbers Shoot! Joined: December 2001 Posts: 1,087 Reputation: 60 Power: 149	Re: Windows 8 Hell. I really need help. Originally Posted by American Zombie I have Win 8 64 and steam installed/runs all games. I also installed startisback so I have my start menu just like in Win 7. I'll check out the app. I know many people can run steam on W864 but I can't and I'm not the only one with this error mode.

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Bman ** Reviewer Joined: July 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8,783 Reputation: 1386 Power: 233**	Re: Windows 8 Hell. I really need help. Just do a clean install of either 8 or 7, I had no issues as well. So maybe they messed up somehow when installing it.

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LeeJend OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 5,289 Reputation: 3386 Power: 211	Re: Windows 8 Hell. I really need help. Response is a little late but: Win 8 should not have install issues with anything since it is essentially Win 7 with a Tablet friendly interface". 1) Make sure you are running with elevated privileges when installing. 2) Get the crap off the laptop (Norton trials, Sony spyware, etc.) A clean install of Win 8 without the usual OEM added junk is always advisable. Some highly reputable software I just installed advised me to turn off AV before installing. Not gonna happen, but the point is that PC protection is getting so intrusive now that it can block functionality. My new build MB setup installed a bunch of invasive crap I had to pull out with tweezers and a magnifying glass... 3) Install for dual boot with Win 7. Give your daughter a break and try the Win 7 install. Drivers should be interchangeable with Win 8. She should see the same interface on her laptop as the school stuff. Learning is hard enough without having to work around a different OS and "school" is not going to upgrade to Win 8 (corporate roll outs are predicted to be nil for Win 8). Have the boot default to Win 7. Thought for the new millenium: In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Open Office - Firefox - Thunderbird - Gimp -Ubuntu - Red Hat -

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Ahlian OSNN Junior Addict Joined: April 2013 Posts: 6 Reputation: 0 Power: 2	Re: Windows 8 Hell. I really need help. Window 8 created many problem for me. When i install it on my laptop than first it tiered me to install the simple drivers and than it tiered me to install simple applications like Skype, so than i decided that i will remove it and install window 7 again.

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TheAmazingTechGeek13 OSNN Junior Addict Joined: April 2013 Location: Need help? Private Inbox me your problem... Posts: 3 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	Re: Windows 8 Hell. I really need help. Originally Posted by Mubbers I bought a Sony Vaio laptop for my daughter, which btw is an excellent piece of kit except for the OS.... Windows 8. This was ordered in Nov 7 delivered for Xmas and to be honest I didn't really think to much about Windows 8 or 7 or whatver. I mean what could go wrong with just a newer version of windows.. Any it's crap, not just crap: it's f***ing crap. She's supposed to be using this for school work and it's nothing like the Vista & W7 PC's at school, she can't find anything on it etc. etc. (and neither can I!). Not only that I bought some games with it and although I have the disks they must have Steam installed to run. Steam won't install. And I mean WON'T I have surfed the entire Steam support library and tried everything. So basically I've spent nearly £1,000 on something completely useless. To further add to the woe Sony themselves seem completely indifferent to the problem: So it seems like I'm goosed. Any ideas with a reformat and load up of Windows 7? What about drivers? I am so so angry. Hi first i will say i got A Star in ICT at school and College. I am qualified to teach people about Information Communications Technology, I am going to help you out. First windows 8 can only be used in certain areas around the world, secondly it depends on your computers performance, Windows 8 works perfectly on a Intel Core Duo 2.4Ghz and you may need a 257mb video card. Computer software these days are all down to connection and memory avalible on your hard drive. The other thing that may be a problem is the make of your computer/Laptop. e.g. I recommend apple mac computers more than original computers, but as you have windows 8 a apple mac computer will make windows 8 not compatible with the computer. Also make sure you have: 1. Windows XP service pack 3 2.Windows 7 3. Windows Vista service pack 2 or 3 Also games do not work for steam on windows 8, im very sorry. But i might be able to find a way for you to get your games working on windows 8. The customer reviews for windows 8 is high, but only the graphic and personal content is the only reason why its rated as a good kit. In addition the gaming part of it is very low, the only games you can play on windows 8 are the ones in the windows live store. You may be able to get them on steam from the windows live store, but they wont be free Hope this works for you mate, if not tell me everything it says when you try to start up windows 8 on a private email @ customersupport.modderexpress@outlook.com and i will do a tutorital with you to make sure 100% you get your computer/Windows 8 working.

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