AGP 4X Cards

ste_w · December 27th, 2004

Hey All

My Geforce FX 5800 Ultra has failed on me, n so im using my dads Geforce 3, which he aint happy about lol, anyway i need to get a really good AGP 4x Graphics Card (Strictly 4x, not 8x/4x) so i can Give him his Geforce 3 back and so i can get a farily ok card being AGP 4x untill PNY Replace My Broken Card, and when i get my replacement my dad can have the new AGP 4x card, as 8x Cards dont work on his Mobo, well they do abit but Bottleneck is huge, like we tried my Fx5800 ultra in it ages ago n it cudnt even run the wolfman demo at over 10 FPS. Anyway please List the Best AGP 4x Cards, They can b Nvidia or ATI. If u live in uk can u provide rough prices or Websites. Please Help.

Thanx

Ste_W

**lancer** · December 27th, 2004

you'll have to go with an old fx card, the best solution would be to buy a new mobo, as it seems kinda dumb to buy a NEW 4x agp card now, as the card wont be able to play many new games or even recent games well, and you'll only be spending the money again as you'll have to upgrade.

ste_w · December 27th, 2004

My Dad hardly uses his pc he plays the old MOH Games on it, which is bout it so he dont really need a new mobo, plus he'd prob have to get new Processor and Memory as his pc is bout 4 or so yrs old i think.

**Moonwraith** · December 27th, 2004

[edit]Nevermind I've read it through again; Ahem, how about an old Ti4200 or the old FX5200s and the likes?[/edit]

ste_w · December 27th, 2004

Erm i kinda thought the problem had gone away, which it obv didnt as like a month or so later the Card has completly failed on me. n i dont need a new mobo 4 the 6 Series as my pc is 8x Agp etc, its my dads pc which is 4x n so if i get a cheap 4x card to last me till i get my replacement he can have it if its better than his geforce 3.

**Moonwraith** · December 27th, 2004

Whatever you do, don't buy a 420mx

heh, your geforce 3 would be better than that. If you could find a Ti that'd probably do you.

ste_w · December 27th, 2004

Yea ive heard the Geforce Beats all the Mx's and cant seem to find many AGP 4x Ti's now i can only find the Ti SE ones which r 8X, a Good 4x Ti 64 - 128 mb (128 preferably) wud b ok, i dont know anything bout ATI Cards really b4 the 9600 so dunno what r 4x or what

**Moonwraith** · December 27th, 2004

Ti4200 64mb is about the only 4x i can find - the 128 is 8x..
What sort of time scale you thinking here?

ste_w · December 27th, 2004

Just been on the Nvidia site and it says there ti4600 is 4x with 128mb, but i cant find a website selling them. and as we r stillin in the holiday season im not gona send my Fx Card to pny till after new yrs most likely but i need the card by end of the week really, n i dont really trust ebay but ebay will b my last option probably.

**Moonwraith** · December 27th, 2004

ATI Radeon 7000 appears to be 4x too, Don't do radeons though; haven't got a clue if it's any good

**Moonwraith** · December 27th, 2004

Well found a Creative Labs Ti4600 128mb one on amazon,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...6link_code=xm2
Doesn't look too bad

85 quid mind you

ste_w · December 27th, 2004

£85? Thats a rip

**Moonwraith** · December 27th, 2004

2nd hand as well, Best bet is looking into the Radeon 7000?

**Sazar** · December 27th, 2004

agp 4x - 8x should not bottleneck your setup per se... speed difference is negligible though the theoretical throughput is high

ste_w · December 27th, 2004

nothin played proprly wen my 8x Card was on the otha pc's 4X mobo

**Sazar** · December 27th, 2004

some mobo's don't support the newer 4x/8x agp cards... that may well have been the problem...

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #1
ste_w OSNN Senior Addict Joined: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 756 Reputation: 40 Power: 130	AGP 4X Cards Hey All My Geforce FX 5800 Ultra has failed on me, n so im using my dads Geforce 3, which he aint happy about lol, anyway i need to get a really good AGP 4x Graphics Card (Strictly 4x, not 8x/4x) so i can Give him his Geforce 3 back and so i can get a farily ok card being AGP 4x untill PNY Replace My Broken Card, and when i get my replacement my dad can have the new AGP 4x card, as 8x Cards dont work on his Mobo, well they do abit but Bottleneck is huge, like we tried my Fx5800 ultra in it ages ago n it cudnt even run the wolfman demo at over 10 FPS. Anyway please List the Best AGP 4x Cards, They can b Nvidia or ATI. If u live in uk can u provide rough prices or Websites. Please Help. Thanx Ste_W OS: Windows Vista Home Premium CPU: 4x Intel Core2 QC @ 2.4Ghz GPU: NVidia GeForce 8800 Ultra 768MB RAM: 4 GB Storage: 1.5 TB Sound: Creative: Xi-fi Xtreme Music 5.1 Speakers: Creative 5.1 Monitor 1: Hannspree 22" widescreen HDMI Monitor Monitor 2: 19" AMW Dvi Monitor

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #2
lancer There is no answer! Joined: October 2004 Location: FL, USA Posts: 3,087 Blog Entries: 3 Reputation: 1430 Power: 137	you'll have to go with an old fx card, the best solution would be to buy a new mobo, as it seems kinda dumb to buy a NEW 4x agp card now, as the card wont be able to play many new games or even recent games well, and you'll only be spending the money again as you'll have to upgrade. "The world has just got smaller now, but people have got further away."

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #3
ste_w OSNN Senior Addict Joined: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 756 Reputation: 40 Power: 130	My Dad hardly uses his pc he plays the old MOH Games on it, which is bout it so he dont really need a new mobo, plus he'd prob have to get new Processor and Memory as his pc is bout 4 or so yrs old i think. OS: Windows Vista Home Premium CPU: 4x Intel Core2 QC @ 2.4Ghz GPU: NVidia GeForce 8800 Ultra 768MB RAM: 4 GB Storage: 1.5 TB Sound: Creative: Xi-fi Xtreme Music 5.1 Speakers: Creative 5.1 Monitor 1: Hannspree 22" widescreen HDMI Monitor Monitor 2: 19" AMW Dvi Monitor

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #4
Moonwraith OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: October 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,131 Reputation: 320 Power: 107	[edit]Nevermind I've read it through again; Ahem, how about an old Ti4200 or the old FX5200s and the likes?[/edit] Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 -- Asus Rampage Formula BFG GeForce 280 GTX OCX -- 4GB Corsair XMS2 Dominator

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #5
ste_w OSNN Senior Addict Joined: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 756 Reputation: 40 Power: 130	Erm i kinda thought the problem had gone away, which it obv didnt as like a month or so later the Card has completly failed on me. n i dont need a new mobo 4 the 6 Series as my pc is 8x Agp etc, its my dads pc which is 4x n so if i get a cheap 4x card to last me till i get my replacement he can have it if its better than his geforce 3. OS: Windows Vista Home Premium CPU: 4x Intel Core2 QC @ 2.4Ghz GPU: NVidia GeForce 8800 Ultra 768MB RAM: 4 GB Storage: 1.5 TB Sound: Creative: Xi-fi Xtreme Music 5.1 Speakers: Creative 5.1 Monitor 1: Hannspree 22" widescreen HDMI Monitor Monitor 2: 19" AMW Dvi Monitor

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December 27th, 2004	Top \| #6
Moonwraith OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: October 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,131 Reputation: 320 Power: 107	Whatever you do, don't buy a 420mx heh, your geforce 3 would be better than that. If you could find a Ti that'd probably do you. Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 -- Asus Rampage Formula BFG GeForce 280 GTX OCX -- 4GB Corsair XMS2 Dominator

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #7
ste_w OSNN Senior Addict Joined: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 756 Reputation: 40 Power: 130	Yea ive heard the Geforce Beats all the Mx's and cant seem to find many AGP 4x Ti's now i can only find the Ti SE ones which r 8X, a Good 4x Ti 64 - 128 mb (128 preferably) wud b ok, i dont know anything bout ATI Cards really b4 the 9600 so dunno what r 4x or what OS: Windows Vista Home Premium CPU: 4x Intel Core2 QC @ 2.4Ghz GPU: NVidia GeForce 8800 Ultra 768MB RAM: 4 GB Storage: 1.5 TB Sound: Creative: Xi-fi Xtreme Music 5.1 Speakers: Creative 5.1 Monitor 1: Hannspree 22" widescreen HDMI Monitor Monitor 2: 19" AMW Dvi Monitor

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #8
Moonwraith OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: October 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,131 Reputation: 320 Power: 107	Ti4200 64mb is about the only 4x i can find - the 128 is 8x.. What sort of time scale you thinking here? Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 -- Asus Rampage Formula BFG GeForce 280 GTX OCX -- 4GB Corsair XMS2 Dominator

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #9
ste_w OSNN Senior Addict Joined: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 756 Reputation: 40 Power: 130	Just been on the Nvidia site and it says there ti4600 is 4x with 128mb, but i cant find a website selling them. and as we r stillin in the holiday season im not gona send my Fx Card to pny till after new yrs most likely but i need the card by end of the week really, n i dont really trust ebay but ebay will b my last option probably. OS: Windows Vista Home Premium CPU: 4x Intel Core2 QC @ 2.4Ghz GPU: NVidia GeForce 8800 Ultra 768MB RAM: 4 GB Storage: 1.5 TB Sound: Creative: Xi-fi Xtreme Music 5.1 Speakers: Creative 5.1 Monitor 1: Hannspree 22" widescreen HDMI Monitor Monitor 2: 19" AMW Dvi Monitor

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #10
Moonwraith OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: October 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,131 Reputation: 320 Power: 107	ATI Radeon 7000 appears to be 4x too, Don't do radeons though; haven't got a clue if it's any good Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 -- Asus Rampage Formula BFG GeForce 280 GTX OCX -- 4GB Corsair XMS2 Dominator

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #11
Moonwraith OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: October 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,131 Reputation: 320 Power: 107	Well found a Creative Labs Ti4600 128mb one on amazon, http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...6link_code=xm2 Doesn't look too bad 85 quid mind you Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 -- Asus Rampage Formula BFG GeForce 280 GTX OCX -- 4GB Corsair XMS2 Dominator

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #12
ste_w OSNN Senior Addict Joined: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 756 Reputation: 40 Power: 130	£85? Thats a rip OS: Windows Vista Home Premium CPU: 4x Intel Core2 QC @ 2.4Ghz GPU: NVidia GeForce 8800 Ultra 768MB RAM: 4 GB Storage: 1.5 TB Sound: Creative: Xi-fi Xtreme Music 5.1 Speakers: Creative 5.1 Monitor 1: Hannspree 22" widescreen HDMI Monitor Monitor 2: 19" AMW Dvi Monitor

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #13
Moonwraith OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: October 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,131 Reputation: 320 Power: 107	2nd hand as well, Best bet is looking into the Radeon 7000? Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 -- Asus Rampage Formula BFG GeForce 280 GTX OCX -- 4GB Corsair XMS2 Dominator

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #14
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	agp 4x - 8x should not bottleneck your setup per se... speed difference is negligible though the theoretical throughput is high Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

December 27th, 2004	Top \| #15
ste_w OSNN Senior Addict Joined: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 756 Reputation: 40 Power: 130	nothin played proprly wen my 8x Card was on the otha pc's 4X mobo OS: Windows Vista Home Premium CPU: 4x Intel Core2 QC @ 2.4Ghz GPU: NVidia GeForce 8800 Ultra 768MB RAM: 4 GB Storage: 1.5 TB Sound: Creative: Xi-fi Xtreme Music 5.1 Speakers: Creative 5.1 Monitor 1: Hannspree 22" widescreen HDMI Monitor Monitor 2: 19" AMW Dvi Monitor

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