JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog

JL Renegade · June 17th, 2005

Well, I just got around to almost finishing my site. I have had it in the makings for over 4 months now and have fallen in love with how easily it has come together. The drop down menus are nice, and took the most time. I found freeware code and trippled it's size to get it to work with inline frames, and I will post the code for download when I finish everything else.

The Design :: I have always liked blue, that and how blue works with grey. My first site (Portfolio > Clouds) was all origional, plus it was blue and silver. I was going for something new while doinf some photoshop buttons when I nailed my next idea on the head. So I now have the black and blue (green or red or white or purple or yellow, whatever) design.

The Code :: I have not yet cleaned up the site's code to make is RSS approved, and there are areas where I have no intention to clean. I quote my own source...

Code:

<!-- Start ****ing ugly header script -->
<table id="m1mainSXMenu2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" class="x1" border="0" height="30" style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111" background="images/headerback.gif" width="432">
<tr align="left">
<td width="138" height="30" background="images/name.gif"></td>
<td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm1',3);exM(m1,'m1mn1','m1tlm1',event)"
onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm1',0);coM(m1,'m1mn1')" id="m1tlm1" class="m1mit" width="80" height="30" background="images/buttons/blog.gif">
<td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm2',3);exM(m1,'m1mn2','m1tlm2',event)"
onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm2',0);coM(m1,'m1mn2')" id="m1tlm2" class="m1mit" width="80" height="30" background="images/buttons/portfolio.gif">
<td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm3',3);exM(m1,'m1mn3','m1tlm3',event)"
onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm3',0);coM(m1,'m1mn3')" id="m1tlm3" class="m1mit" width="80" height="30" background="images/buttons/music.gif">
<td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm4',3);exM(m1,'m1mn4','m1tlm4',event)"
onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm4',0);coM(m1,'m1mn4')" id="m1tlm4" class="m1mit" width="80" height="30" background="images/buttons/contact.gif">
</td></tr></table>
<!-- End ****ing ugly header script -->

Your Input :: To make this site as good as it can get, I would like to hear what you have to say. It is not done in CSS nor will I convert it, so that is the only thing I ask you leave out of this.

So please, comments... questions...

Note :: The header is a php image, so one of 5 images will randomly be loaded. The Image is form DeviantArt, with the author's permission. Everything else, all done by me, with the menu code core found on dynamicdrive.com

Thank you.

Edit :: It seems of all things to forget, I missed the link... http://jlrenegade.com

**~bk** · June 17th, 2005

Looks not too bad so far.

JL Renegade · June 17th, 2005

It has come to my attention that the inline frame does not show up correctly in firefox. go IE for doing what it is best at! Correctly displaying what was improperly done! Heh. Ima fix the code right now.

JL Renegade · June 22nd, 2005

[cough]please?[/cough]

mfarley · June 22nd, 2005

Love the favicon. =)

That seems to be the only image on the site though (loaded and refreshed 5 times in FF and no image generated for that blue header area).

I like the colors(nothing flashy) but I'd consider some sort of seamless background image to make it jump out a bit more and make the site stand out from the background. Right now it looks a bit flat to me.

**Grandmaster** · June 22nd, 2005

It's looking good so far.

I have to agree mfarley though, the background is a tad too plain and makes the site seem a bit bland.

The menu is snazzy. The header isn't loading any of the random images.

But overall, good stuff

4 months is quite a bit of effort

JL Renegade · June 23rd, 2005

Just realized I left the link out of the first post. Man, I worked so hard to get everything right, and the most important thing was left out

mfarley · June 23rd, 2005

No worries mate, we were bright enough to figure it out.

Let us know if you make any changes.

**Geffy** · June 24th, 2005

Originally Posted by JL Renegade

Your Input :: To make this site as good as it can get, I would like to hear what you have to say. It is not done in CSS nor will I convert it, so that is the only thing I ask you leave out of this.

So please, comments... questions...

Open your mind to using XHTML and CSS, you have said you wont, so I wont bother looking.

also if you are going to have horrible javascript make sure it works in as many browsers as you can, as every javascript implementation is different, sometimes it varies from computer to computer when the browser remains the same.

**X-Istence** · June 24th, 2005

Originally Posted by Geffy

Open your mind to using XHTML and CSS, you have said you wont, so I wont bother looking.

also if you are going to have horrible javascript make sure it works in as many browsers as you can, as every javascript implementation is different, sometimes it varies from computer to computer when the browser remains the same.

seconded.

**Grandmaster** · June 27th, 2005

The above two are snobs

Although I agree, XHTML and CSS aren't that hard to learn.

JL Renegade · July 1st, 2005

Just learned a few things about CSS while reading through tutorials. Apparently, my site is a basic CSS site, as it uses only styles on a table. The table is the only thing that makes it a more HTML based site. hah, but table > div.

Resilient · July 7th, 2005

Originally Posted by Geffy

Open your mind to using XHTML and CSS, you have said you wont, so I wont bother looking.

also if you are going to have horrible javascript make sure it works in as many browsers as you can, as every javascript implementation is different, sometimes it varies from computer to computer when the browser remains the same.

Thirded. He made me too, and my site now rawk'eth. o_O

JL Renegade · July 7th, 2005

Originally Posted by JL Renegade

Just learned a few things about CSS while reading through tutorials. Apparently, my site is a basic CSS site, as it uses only styles on a table. The table is the only thing that makes it a more HTML based site. hah, but table > div.

*cough*

It is css... just none of those ****ty div tags

The only thing there is to complain about, with given that the RSS cvalidator sucks, is the table. The validator picked up a few things that I have yet to change, and I think the iframe (That I could see making a div somehow) needs a pixel value for the heigth.

June 17th, 2005	Top \| #1
JL Renegade OSNN Addict Joined: September 2004 Posts: 73 Reputation: 60 Power: 91	JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog Well, I just got around to almost finishing my site. I have had it in the makings for over 4 months now and have fallen in love with how easily it has come together. The drop down menus are nice, and took the most time. I found freeware code and trippled it's size to get it to work with inline frames, and I will post the code for download when I finish everything else. The Design :: I have always liked blue, that and how blue works with grey. My first site (Portfolio > Clouds) was all origional, plus it was blue and silver. I was going for something new while doinf some photoshop buttons when I nailed my next idea on the head. So I now have the black and blue (green or red or white or purple or yellow, whatever) design. The Code :: I have not yet cleaned up the site's code to make is RSS approved, and there are areas where I have no intention to clean. I quote my own source... Code: <!-- Start **ing ugly header script --> <table id="m1mainSXMenu2" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" class="x1" border="0" height="30" style="border-collapse: collapse" bordercolor="#111111" background="images/headerback.gif" width="432"> <tr align="left"> <td width="138" height="30" background="images/name.gif"></td> <td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm1',3);exM(m1,'m1mn1','m1tlm1',event)" onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm1',0);coM(m1,'m1mn1')" id="m1tlm1" class="m1mit" width="80" height="30" background="images/buttons/blog.gif"> <td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm2',3);exM(m1,'m1mn2','m1tlm2',event)" onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm2',0);coM(m1,'m1mn2')" id="m1tlm2" class="m1mit" width="80" height="30" background="images/buttons/portfolio.gif"> <td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm3',3);exM(m1,'m1mn3','m1tlm3',event)" onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm3',0);coM(m1,'m1mn3')" id="m1tlm3" class="m1mit" width="80" height="30" background="images/buttons/music.gif"> <td onmouseover="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm4',3);exM(m1,'m1mn4','m1tlm4',event)" onmouseout="chgBg(m1,'m1tlm4',0);coM(m1,'m1mn4')" id="m1tlm4" class="m1mit" width="80" height="30" background="images/buttons/contact.gif"> </td></tr></table> <!-- End ing ugly header script --> Your Input :: To make this site as good as it can get, I would like to hear what you have to say. It is not done in CSS nor will I convert it, so that is the only thing I ask you leave out of this. So please, comments... questions... Note :: The header is a php image, so one of 5 images will randomly be loaded. The Image is form DeviantArt, with the author's permission. Everything else, all done by me, with the menu code core** found on dynamicdrive.com Thank you. Edit :: It seems of all things to forget, I missed the link... http://jlrenegade.com

June 17th, 2005	Top \| #2
~bk I <3 Adriana Joined: November 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,768 Reputation: 1230 Power: 150	Re: JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog Looks not too bad so far. +bk.designs; + notebook + deviantART __________ // art is literacy of the heart <3

June 17th, 2005	Top \| #3
JL Renegade OSNN Addict Joined: September 2004 Posts: 73 Reputation: 60 Power: 91	Re: JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog It has come to my attention that the inline frame does not show up correctly in firefox. go IE for doing what it is best at! Correctly displaying what was improperly done! Heh. Ima fix the code right now.

June 22nd, 2005	Top \| #4
JL Renegade OSNN Addict Joined: September 2004 Posts: 73 Reputation: 60 Power: 91	Re: JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog [cough]please?[/cough]

June 22nd, 2005	Top \| #5
mfarley OSNN Senior Addict Joined: June 2005 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 268 Reputation: 160 Power: 85	Re: JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog Love the favicon. =) That seems to be the only image on the site though (loaded and refreshed 5 times in FF and no image generated for that blue header area). I like the colors(nothing flashy) but I'd consider some sort of seamless background image to make it jump out a bit more and make the site stand out from the background. Right now it looks a bit flat to me. evga nforce 680i \| Intel e6600 @ 3.2ghz 1.41v w/Zalman CPS9500 \| 2GB Corsair Dominator XMS2 DDR800 (1:1 FSB:RAM) \| XFX 7600GT

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June 22nd, 2005	Top \| #6
Grandmaster Electronica Addict Joined: February 2002 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 10,574 Reputation: 2960 Power: 257	Re: JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog It's looking good so far. I have to agree mfarley though, the background is a tad too plain and makes the site seem a bit bland. The menu is snazzy. The header isn't loading any of the random images. But overall, good stuff 4 months is quite a bit of effort

June 23rd, 2005	Top \| #7
JL Renegade OSNN Addict Joined: September 2004 Posts: 73 Reputation: 60 Power: 91	Re: JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog Just realized I left the link out of the first post. Man, I worked so hard to get everything right, and the most important thing was left out

June 23rd, 2005	Top \| #8
mfarley OSNN Senior Addict Joined: June 2005 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 268 Reputation: 160 Power: 85	Re: JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog No worries mate, we were bright enough to figure it out. Let us know if you make any changes. evga nforce 680i \| Intel e6600 @ 3.2ghz 1.41v w/Zalman CPS9500 \| 2GB Corsair Dominator XMS2 DDR800 (1:1 FSB:RAM) \| XFX 7600GT

June 24th, 2005	Top \| #9
Geffy OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: March 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,805 Reputation: 1490 Power: 213	Re: JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog Originally Posted by JL Renegade Your Input :: To make this site as good as it can get, I would like to hear what you have to say. It is not done in CSS nor will I convert it, so that is the only thing I ask you leave out of this. So please, comments... questions... Open your mind to using XHTML and CSS, you have said you wont, so I wont bother looking. also if you are going to have horrible javascript make sure it works in as many browsers as you can, as every javascript implementation is different, sometimes it varies from computer to computer when the browser remains the same.  • blog • tumblog • lastfm • flickr • #rubyonrails • @twitter "I could be replaced with a very small shell script"

June 24th, 2005	Top \| #10
X-Istence * Joined: December 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,490 Reputation: 2808 Power: 217	Re: JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog Originally Posted by Geffy Open your mind to using XHTML and CSS, you have said you wont, so I wont bother looking. also if you are going to have horrible javascript make sure it works in as many browsers as you can, as every javascript implementation is different, sometimes it varies from computer to computer when the browser remains the same. seconded. My blog!

June 27th, 2005	Top \| #11
Grandmaster Electronica Addict Joined: February 2002 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 10,574 Reputation: 2960 Power: 257	Re: JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog The above two are snobs Although I agree, XHTML and CSS aren't that hard to learn.

July 1st, 2005	Top \| #12
JL Renegade OSNN Addict Joined: September 2004 Posts: 73 Reputation: 60 Power: 91	Re: JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog Just learned a few things about CSS while reading through tutorials. Apparently, my site is a basic CSS site, as it uses only styles on a table. The table is the only thing that makes it a more HTML based site. hah, but table > div.

July 7th, 2005	Top \| #13
Resilient Prophecy Joined: February 2005 Location: The Darkside Posts: 82 Reputation: 180 Power: 86	Re: JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog Originally Posted by Geffy Open your mind to using XHTML and CSS, you have said you wont, so I wont bother looking. also if you are going to have horrible javascript make sure it works in as many browsers as you can, as every javascript implementation is different, sometimes it varies from computer to computer when the browser remains the same. Thirded. He made me too, and my site now rawk'eth. o_O Moving on is hard. Things are either dull yet painful, over-enthusiastic but shallow, or melodramatic and far too self-pitying than I'd like it to be. I wish I could fly. Soaring must alleviate the pains of everything. I envy birds. I wish I was a bird. I miss everything.

July 7th, 2005	Top \| #14
JL Renegade OSNN Addict Joined: September 2004 Posts: 73 Reputation: 60 Power: 91	Re: JL Renegade - Personal Design - Personal Blog Originally Posted by JL Renegade Just learned a few things about CSS while reading through tutorials. Apparently, my site is a basic CSS site, as it uses only styles on a table. The table is the only thing that makes it a more HTML based site. hah, but table > div. cough It is css... just none of those ****ty div tags The only thing there is to complain about, with given that the RSS cvalidator sucks, is the table. The validator picked up a few things that I have yet to change, and I think the iframe (That I could see making a div somehow) needs a pixel value for the heigth.

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